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Report: Canadian student faces deportation from Israel following protest
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Published: 26.07.08, 09:17
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61. The MacDiarmid family deserves the worst
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (07.27.08)
Settlers on stolen land belonging the ancient people of Canada pretend to be angels protecting bloodthirsty Arabs who stole and occupy the land of the ancient Jews. The entire MacDiarmid family who brought up monster children deserves to be expelled not only from Israel but also from Canada and sent to live with their beloved Islamic terrorists in the vast Arab empire to witness the ongoing slaughtering of Christians, Darfurians, Saharawis, Berbers and many others. People like the MacDiarmid family are only prolonging the suffering of the oppressed people by Islam that is on its last legs before complete implosion. Ahamadabad, Bangalore, Tripoli, Lebanon, Tehran, Algeria, Yemen, to name a few terrorism acts that were committed by the Muslim scourge only yesterday.
62. #56, Canadian Major Paeta Hess-von Kruedener' report
israeli ,   israel   (07.27.08)
Excerpts: " ... 21 Nov 05, when the Hezbollah tried to capture IDF soldiers from an IDF observation position overlooking the Wazzani river near the town of Ghajjar on the Blue Line. This action was unsuccessful and resulted in the deaths of the Hezbollah raiding force. On 01 Feb 06, a young shepherd boy was killed by an IDF patrol near an abandon goat farm called Bastarra. Hassan Nasrallah (note: Hezbollah's leader) vowed that there would be consequences to this action. Team Sierra was tasked on 2 Feb 06, to assist in the investigation of the incident, and we sent one team to do so while the other team conducted its normal mobile patrolling activities. On 03 Feb 06, a limited engagement took place initiated by the Hezbollah on several of the IDF defensive positions located in occupied Lebanon. Then on 28 May, the Islamic Jihad (PLO) fired rockets from South Lebanon, into Israel, which elicited an immediate aerial bombardment of positions near our patrol base and in the Bekka valley." In one incident out of the four mentioned above an IDF patrol killed a shepherd boy. He could have been used by the Hezbollah to check IDF reflexes and readiness. Please also note Hezbollah positions near the UN patrol base. "we have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both artillery and aerial bombing. The closest artillery has landed within 2 metres of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 metres from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but has rather been due to tactical necessity." This "technical necessity", "not deliberate targeting", has been largely interpreted as "Hezbollah is using our base to shoot at Israel and the IAF/IDF is not targeting us deliberately". http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060718/mideast_lebanon_UN_060716/20060718/ BTW, the above quoted article starts as follows: "After the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah, and the subsequent bombing campaign began against Lebanon..." Israel did not wake up on July 12th 2006 and decided to invade Lebanon on a whim. Two IDF troops were kidnapped in a cross border attack which resulted in three dead soldiers and another two wounded. Five more soldiers died in the retrieval attempt. At the same time Northern Israel was subjected to rocket barrage. Hezbollah flags were flying from UN positions. UNIFIL was giving away Israeli positions on a daily basis: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/622bqwjn.asp Betselem is not worthy of a comment, because there is no mention of Palestinian terror against Israel on their sites. As to the Guardian - really, someone should tell them that the appropriate title for their section is Comment is Cheap, not Comment is Free. It's cheap and that's the way we it should be treated. Please get your facts straight, Mr. McDiarmid. If you don't find us a worthy ally, take your grievance up with your government. But don't think your son is entitled to "join the revolution" against a sovereign state and get away with it. It is your prerogative to disagree with us and even to dislike us. But messing with our army is something else. I wonder what your jolly Canadian soldiers would do to me if I were to travel to Afghanistan and interfere with their mission. By the way, do you also have troops in Iraq? Anywhere else as well?
63. ISM volunteer facing deportation
Alex Shilo ,   Washington DC, USA   (07.27.08)
Keep him and exchange him for Schalit; same with some 40 ISM activists who are planning to sail from Cyprus and "break the siege of Gaza". Let their families feel what kind of "solidarity" they can expect from Hamas.
64. ISM
Victor ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.28.08)
ISM used to smuggle Palestinians into Israel and at least one of smuggled persons (who was the British Moslem) committed a terrorist act. This would be enough to send those who smuggled him for a long time to jail and all members of ISM packing. This scumbag will tell how he was abused by IDF and unfortunately he will find too many listeners.
65. i agree they should be expelled
paulo2005 ,   lisbon   (07.29.08)
These people come to israel to make trouble. When they return back to their countries they became powerfull activists against israel. They come to israel to throw some stones and have some excitement. These people want to damage israel image. They should be deported, or even better, not even allowed in the country
66. Israeli Border Forces
Melekper ,   Paris France   (08.03.08)
It is exactly because Israel is a democracy that , when it does not obey it's own ethical rules, criticism is more severe. After all who expects a dictatorship to do so ?Or to have any ethical rules anyway. Again it's a pity that" My country right or wrong" seem's to be the prevailing content of the "talback's" I 've read up to now; surely most Israelis are secure enough in their country's democratic system and moral values not to take umbrage when legitimate criticism is voiced ?
67. Letter to government of Israel in support of V. MacDiarmid
John H Corbett ,   Kingston Ontario Can   (08.07.08)
An open letter to the Government of Israel (short version) July 31, 2008 Dear Friends I write to express my own grief and anger over the present situation in Israel and the occupied territories, and to express solidarity with my neighbor Victor MacDiarmid who was recently subject to illegal arrest, confinement and deportation in reprisal for his peaceful support of peaceful Palestinian demonstrators. I would describe myself as a convert to Judaism, a Zionist (of a kind), a scholar specializing in the study of the (ancient) Middle East, a student of Hebrew and of the texts and traditions of our sages (but also of Arabic). Of course we protest the use of terror bombing against Israeli civilians. But it seems more fitting to begin by addressing our own community in Israel and the Diaspora, in order to help our brothers and sisters to realize that nothing but evil and further pain can result from the present policy of the government of Israel towards the occupied territories. Nothing done by the State of Israel in the West Bank is legal- to leave on one side questions of ethics! Most of the following activities take place in violation of international law, and/or the Geneva Convention. All of them are immoral as well as ineffective; most of them, I believe, explicitly violate our own halakah: -armed attack on civilians (including very many women and children) -unlawful killings -unlawful detention -systematic police brutality -torture and ill-treatment -destruction of houses -destruction of trees and other agricultural property -unfair trials -attacks on conscientious objectors (to the above actions) -forced closures and curfews -destruction of basic infrastructure -denial of access to basic food and medical services -forced transfer of population -settlement of occupied areas Further, it is widely recognized that the occupying power (so far from being entitled to destroy them) has the explicit obligation to repair and maintain existing infrastructure, and to supply food and basic medical services. Restrictions on the free movement of people within the occupied territories are also hard to justify. Many Israelis and others apparently consider Jewish religious and ethical traditions rather irrelevant to life in modern Israel. Such views have also been expressed by Jews in my immediate community in Canada. But I still find them shocking. If we care about our tradition, the teachings of our sages, we must surely keep them alive in our actions as well as our thoughts. I would be interested in hearing from rabbinic authorities some halakic justification for a doctrine of collective guilt and unlimited reprisals. This would not end my dilemma, however. As human beings we have an obligation not to be bystanders, looking on while great evils are committed, as the Israeli writer Amara Hass has reminded us. . Not to be a bystander before great evil - that is the human thing to do, and also the conduct enjoined by Jewish tradition. Will terrorism destroy "Judaism", even if Israel succeeds in surviving through a threatened future of regional (and global) war? That is a question which obsesses me. It won't go away. Shalom John H Corbett
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