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Evangelicals call on Jews to assert Jesus’ gospel
Neta Sela
Published: 17.09.08, 12:27
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31. 1. ephi: As a Christian
Ana ,   Spain   (09.17.08)
Catholic, I agree with you.
32. Evangelicals call on Jews to assert Jesus’ gospel
Yonatan ,   Jerusalem   (09.17.08)
anyone who wants to be a christian must first be a Jew
33. to andrew
meg ,   israel   (09.17.08)
who subdued rome??????? certainly not a this jewish bloke and his 12 buddies. umm ...always did wonder about that bunch!!
34. now i am worried...
meg ,   israel   (09.17.08)
who is worse, the islamics or evangelists. Both are "rather" fanatical, at least (so far) the evangies dont go bombing innocent people. Well this Joshua was a Jew, lived one died one and one thing he wasn't and that was a xtian. wow so many worshiping a Jewish man, but we never needed it and still dont, but whatever rocks their boat, just keep it to themselves and leave us alone.
35. Is that Sarah Palin I see in the back in that photo?
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (09.17.08)
She stopped by to pray for our conversion, while her truck with that dead moose strapped to the roof idled in the parking lot.
36. Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw recently....
AJ ,   Washington, DC   (09.17.08)
"Jesus loves you. But everybody else thinks you're an a...hole."
37. 7 Andrew: The Western World's religion became apostate
Rivkah   (09.17.08)
about three hundred years after the Messiah came as a servant to graft the Gentiles onto the Jewish faith like a branch. The Christian religion for most people is apostate because they do not obey the commandments the Messiah said that those who love him would do, like observing the Sabbath of the Lord from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday: not buying or selling food or wares on the Sabbath as Ezra in the Bible instructed.
38. These Evangelicals are so phony.
Mark ,   USA   (09.17.08)
They have those fake smiles and phony attitude. They are obnoxious! I have seen how they operate. They are the master of deception and lies. I will never trust them. Never. They have an evil agenda. In order to convert a Jew, they will say or do anything. I mean anything. They pretend to act like that they are your best friend. try worst enemy.
39. #35, Palin Hockey Mom out to convert
Mark ,   Boston   (09.17.08)
She is a Hockey Mom that wears lipstick who wants to convert Jews.
40. This is why I live in Israel
Esther ,   Ofarim, Israel   (09.17.08)
And this is why I want my children to grow up here. At least here I can shelter them from Missionaries.
41. And still.. true Christians love you
Sofia ,   The Netherlands   (09.17.08)
#2 Gaya, we do! :) Have you ever heard of arabvision.org? Or persecution.com? # My Jewish friends !!! Now why would muslims hate us BOTH so much? Isn't it because your God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob is our God? Their anwer is: we (you and me) are 'people from the Book'. They want to destroy you on Saturday and us on Sunday. But no one will destroy you because you have a Mighty God!!! Don't trust anyone..Olmert gives land and city away, Bush is pushing him to do so, Abbas seems so peacefully as well..people can call themselves Jew, or Christian, of friend, or Mike or Patty.. but you can recognize trees by their fruit (do you understand? My English is not so good as my Dutch :) ). You should trust God and stay close to Him, He will fight for you! XXX from Holland
42. aw, c'mon people
oferdesade ,   israel   (09.17.08)
you're all so surprised that evangalists want to christianize us? and that's a reason to hate them? i know some very nice evangalists. they're good, caring people, and i am sure they truly believe they have our welfare at heart. so they're a little misguided. it's not like they're going to burn us at the stake or cut our throats for not eating pork. at least they're not going off to iran to offer their help in destroying the zionist entity coz the messiah hasnt kum yit.
43. 11 Mary: Israel and Jews have benefited from the generosity
Rivkah   (09.17.08)
of Christian who are real Christians. When the Messiah (Adonai for the Jews/ Yeshua or Jesus for the real Christians) comes as the Lion of Judah, THAT is when he will take away the sins of the world. What he did as a servant was to graft the Gentiles onto the Jewish tree of faith with Jewish roots and he took back from Satan the ownership of the world that Satan stole from Adam in the Garden of Eden. A time of around two thousand years has been allowed to elapse so the era of the Gentiles could come to the full and all the Gentiles God has in the Book of Life are converted to the Jewish faith of Yeshua. When the time of the Gentiles ends at Armageddon, THEN the world will be under the perfect government of the Messiah for a thousand years. A final rebellion of children born in the Milleniah Kingdom and/or the resurrected dead at the end of the thousand years will be put down and those unbelieving souls cast into the lake of fire for eternal destruction. THEN there will be no more sin or sorrow or pain and the earth will be RENEWED, not a new heaven and earth formed. The translation to English is in error because Jack Van Impe found over a hundred verses in the Bible that say the earth will never end. The world system will end, but not the earth. The Jews were blinded to the identity of the Messiah when he came as a servant. The Jews were not blinded in other matters. That selective blindness PROTECTS the Jews while other people are not protected from the consequences of not knowing the Savior/Messiah by name. But the Gentiles corrupted the doctrine of the church about three hundred years after Yeshua was on the earth as a servant Rabbi. They did not even translate his name correctly into English: Yeshua or Yehoshua is JOSHUA in English, not Jesus. Jesus is Portuguese man's name meant to deceive Christians into praying in the name of a man, not the Messiah.
44. 22 Dovid: How wonderful you called me Regina.
rivkah   (09.17.08)
That means Queen or a woman in authority. Apostate Christians are vile because they are religious unbelievers even if they think they are right. It is a corruption of the Jewish religion just as Islam is a corruption of the Jewish religion. But when you pray to Adonai/ha'Shem which I hope you do, you are praying to your Messiah who will come as the Lion of Judah. Read the Book of Zechariah in the Bible. When the Lion of Judah comes, THAT is when the Jews will understand he was here as the Lamb who was sacrificed as an obedient servant to take back ownership of the world from the devil who tricked Adam into giving up that authority. But two thousand years have elapsed because the Gentiles written in the Book of Life needed to be saved by being born and coming to know the Lord who chose them from the foundation of the earth, just as he chose the Jews who are Jews in their hearts. Your hearts will be broken when you realize that, but God will take away the pain. You should be praying for people who are influenced by the apostasy of the churches so that they come to saving faith. Imagine how terrible it will be when God tells them He never knew them and they are not admitted to God's kingdom. They are deceived and you should pity them and ask God to lead them to saving faith.
45. rebeccacca , again an occasion to promote
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.17.08)
your stupid beliefs of an abused woman who stays with an abusing guy . You have only your pets and middle age books , no friends , no children . Poor Bipede .
46. Simon , not a good exchange
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.17.08)
Seven days , great days , off , in the spring , for one day in the rainy winter ? I thought you were smarter .
47. Palin
Yishai ,   Denver   (09.17.08)
Isn't Sarah Palins church involved in converting Jews to Christians? There is a big Jews for Jesus push with her congregation.
48. Wait. Didn't Foxman convert to Catholicism at one time?
Jake   (09.17.08)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Foxman "Foxman's parents left him with his Polish Catholic nanny Bronislawa Kurpi in 1940 when they were ordered to enter a ghetto. Foxman was baptized into the Roman Catholic Church as Henryk Stanislas Kurpi, and raised as a Catholic in Vilnius, Lithuania between 1940 and 1944 when (after several legal custody battles) he was returned to his parents"
49. To Mary, #11
Jake   (09.17.08)
You make a good point. However, the term 'Messiah' is so seldom used in the Tanach and messianic interpretations so vague that a messiah can mean just about anything to any number of people. The terminology 'Messianic era' is never once used in the Tanach, and the Tanach never states that the era of global peace and tranquility and the return of the Jews to Zion would be acheived in one shot within the Messiah's own lifetime, rather these tasks would be left to God Himself.
50. #25 and #26 and "Galit" are the same person
Jake   (09.17.08)
51. "Jesus"
"Christian" lady ,   USA   (09.17.08)
HIS Name is YAHshua.......not "Jesus".......never was, never will be. Messiah will return to reunite the two houses of Israel ! HE will do it.....not man.
52. We believe in YOUR Messiah
Annie H. ,   United States   (09.17.08)
Thank you Israel for suffering. satan has spent centuries attacking you and why? Because through you Messiah Jesus came into the world. You did not deserve the horrors of your history, especially at the hands of wicked and evil gentiles. For that this gentile apologizes for her people and fully commits to "Never Again!" We gentiles who believe on Messiah Jesus consider ourselves grafted in as adopted children of Abraham. Following Messiah Jesus is not a gentile thing to do, it is the very heart and purpose of Judaism. Its we gentiles who have converted. So again thank you again Israel. Please at least give the Messiahship of Jesus an unbiased study and ask G-d about it. That's all we are asking. Blessings and love
53. 4 Dovid, Dovid: The Israeli Supreme Court ruled that
Rivkah   (09.17.08)
Messianic Jews can become Israeli citizens. They are a part of Israel and the Jewish community who are persecuted by Jews and Christians and Muslims. Where is their homeland if not in Israel?
54. 17 Avi: I prefer the name Yeshua/Yehoshua since
Rivkah   (09.17.08)
the Dictionary of Surnames defines the name Jesus as a Portuguese man's name that was wrongly translated as the Messiah's name. The English of Yeshua/Yehoshua is JOSHUA which means SALVATION. Pity those who are misled to pray in the wrong name when God demands a correct name for Him to listen to prayers in the name of His son, Yeshua/Yehoshua/Joshua.
55. 45 Charles: I have no idea who you are talking about.Do you?
Rivkah   (09.17.08)
56. Converting the Jews expresses insecurity, fear, not love. 1
David Turner ,   Richmond, USA   (09.17.08)
The seventeen hundred year history Christian efforts to convert, then persecute Jews based on fundamental insecurity: there is absolutely no evidence that a living person later referred to Jesus the Messiah ever existed. Christians, yes; James, yes; Paul, again yes. But nowhere is there a single written reference to the actual person of Jesus. Events leading up to the Jewish War which ended in the destruction of the temple and the dispersion of the Jews birthed dozens of self-proclaimed messiahs, tens of thousands of rebels against the Romans, tens of thousands died on the cross, the Roman punishment for insurrectionists. Most likely Jesus (translated, salvation) was born of failure and mourning, a fantasy to sustain a defeated people now slaves, homeless and in exile. The problem for the Christian myth is to reconcile the fact that the Jews dismissed the status of what was to become the Christian Messiah and Son of God? If those for whom God supposedly sent were unconvinced, then there is a measure of doubt that the basis for Christianity, the man Jesus, might not have existed. And so Jews become real and eternal Christ-killers, children of the devil; and targets forever of suspicion, persecution, expulsion and murder. This is the root and continuing reality of anti-Judaism and its secular child, antisemitism. The risk to Jews today living in all Christendom is that secular societies are still born of the myth, and the Holocaust is but the most recent expression of Christian fear and reaction to those who throw doubt on the existence of their god.
57. Need to Increase Jewish Education In Response
Ben S ,   NY, USA   (09.17.08)
The best defense is Jewish education. The best of course is Jewish schooling. But there are sources out there of the Jewish Repsonse to Missionaries whether from www.jewsforjudaism.org or bensolomon.info, for example
58. doubletalk
tom ,   toronto, canada   (09.17.08)
the "sin" of the holocaust is what needs to be expiated, not by jesus, or by eliminating the remnants of european jewry. this declaration proposes to wipe away the sins of european christianity by getting rid of the witnesses. it is not the jews who should convert, but these evangelicals who should follow the example of jesus, and adopt his religion, namely judaism.
59. #55 - I know what Charles is talking about...
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (09.17.08)
YOU ARE A DYED-IN-THE-WOOL WHACK JOB!
60. Tolerance
E Man ,   Washington, DC USA   (09.17.08)
Why do so many of you feel the need to criticise all Christians or Christianity itself, just because some Evangelical group calls to speard the gospel to Jews? I am Jewish. I do not like the words or deeds of some Christians. Likewise, there are some acts done by Jews(in the name of Judaism) that I find objectionable. All Jews and all Christians are not responsible for the acts of a few of their members. All Christians are not Jew haters out to convert or kill. If you are stuck in this line of thought you are living a sad life.
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