#51, you're right!! Ya know, christianity IS the problem, (and christians can be saved too), let's get rid of 2K years of "doctrines of man", get back to Torah, (living it, doing what it says to do), follow JaShua, and I think everything will turn out OK, ya think? By the way I'm a Torah obeying, kippa wearing, tzit-tzit wearing, tefillin laying, Shema reading, Shabbat keeping, Feasts keeping, believer! (and wouldn't be caught dead in a church) Thanks, Lenny

Surely a faith that exhorts its believers to present its case to the entire world (which includes Jews, last I heard) is somewhat less "hateful" than a faith that promises a Paradise with "70 houris and the life of a king" for killing non-believers--with a special bounty on Jews? It was a Calvinist Baptist fundamentalist "evangelical" (Silly term: Christianity IS evangelical--sharing the "good news"--or it is NOT Christianity) named Roger Williams who first welcomed Jews to participate--AS JEWS--in America's civil society, to build their synagogue and worship in their own tradition. Encyclopedia Britannica (1978 edition) concludes its entry on R. Williams with this paragraph: "Williams' advocacy of separatism and of liberation of all religions sprang from his conviction that the path to heaven was so narrow that no community could possibly be made up only of true believers, and therefore the best policy was not to mix church and state. His passionate defense of liberty of conscience found form in the institutions of Rhode Island...." [and was, of course, eventually enshrined in the U.S. Constitution.] This from Williams' 1644 book, "The Bloudy Tenent Of Persecution": "...It is the will and command of God that, since the coming of his Son the Lord Jesus, a permission of the most Paganish, Jewish, Turkish, or anti-christian consciences and worships be granted to all men in all nations and countries: and they are only to be fought against with that sword which is only, in soul matters, able to conquer: to wit, the sword of God's Spirit, the word of God." I'd advise the ADL, et.al., that there are worse things than Christian preachers loose in this world.

You quote Jack Van Impe; I've seen his show. He and his wife make a lot of money from their bolgna! There is only one G-d. The Messiah has not yet come. Look around!!! I'm so tired of (some) Christians who make it their mission to convert the Jewish people. I, too, will die with the words "shema yisrael" on my lips.

When those sincere christians who called upon you to hear the words of our Lord Jesus have disapeared from the earth and you are left with the nations who only hate you, you will understand. After the rapture of the christians The Lord God of Heaven will turn to His people and he will save them. But this time is called by the prophet the time of Jacob's trouble. Israel will suffer a lot before it is healed. Everyone who turns to the Lord Jesus now will escape that time. And it is at hand. The Tenach tells you all about it. Read Joël, Habakuk , Jesaja, Jeremiah, Zachariah, Daniël, Ezechiël. If I were a Jew I would run for safety now ,I would not wait for that which the prophets warned the people of Israël for......... They who want to keep you away from the Lord Jesus, hate you. They don't want you to be saved. They are afraid of the New Testament. Why??? It is just a book! Their fear is justified because it is a dangerous book. The truth is always dangerous. It brings a wandering sinner back to God. Be he a Jew or a Heathen. (Jesaja 53,55) Will the people of Israël ever understand the real meaning of the life of Joseph, the father of Manasseh and Ephraïm?

i'd rather avoid a shouting match with you, but i didn't do anything other than believe. being a christian means telling others. you should judge christians on if they actually do what jesus said. anyone can use anything as an excuse to commit crime, but are they really what they say they are? if you really want christians to shut up in israel, then israel is no longer a democracy and liberty no longer exists here. you want that? fine with me.

And stop their idol worship of the man-god. outreachjudaism dot com

If you are serious about wanting to understand about the Messiah and how he can forgive siin please read Isaiah chapter 53. Then if your are still interested in Messiah start studying the New Testiment. Shalome

John 5:39 , 40 Jesus says "You search the scriptures because you believe they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me! Yet you refuse to come to me so that I can give you this eternal life." Please, I don't mean to offend anyone but the New testiment is a GOOD thing. Please read it for yourself. The world hates the Messiah because he is not from this world. A loving heveanly Father sent His beloved Son to rescue us from our sins and we murdered him. When we come to Him in humility and ask his forgivness He gives it freely. That is way he came, to save us from sins power over us.

Christians aren't the problem, E Man, Christianity itself is the problem. Christianity teaches that all individuals, not just Jews, must accept that Jesus/Yeshua/Ribbi Yehoshua was Mashiach or be sent to hell. While I am tolerant of Christians, I have every right to be intolerant of their message to Jews and humankind in general. PS, Jesus wasn't the Mashiach and I can prove it.

It is hard to believe that after millenniums of Christian persecution on Jews, they still wish to impose their bankrupt religion on them. I am more worried about Christians, whom in general are more educated than Moslems radicals and their suicide bombers. Christians, through history, have been very organized and more systematic! They possess a very deep experience to convert others by any means, as they have done through out the centuries. They also persecuted and killed women, burning them alive in great numbers. Christians are well aware that Islam has already outnumbered them, and they are therefore desperate to convert anyone just to maintain their power and supremacy in the world. I wish to convey to them my message: Jews do not wish to neither drink Jesus blood nor bathe in it! Get it? Got it? Good!!!

They pray to a Jewish boy who was murdered by the Romans; yet they want us to give up Judaism for idol worship. If Christianity wishes to delude their followers, so be it. The Jewish world refused to convert during the Spanish Inquisition so the current nonsensical demands are being met the same way. Fuhgetaboutit!!

no wonder the book of revalation says there is only 144000 jews saved on earth to keep the abraham covernent that god made zacaharia 12 jesus said i will destroy all the world armmies that fight against jeruselum then they will look apon me on whom they piearced as one who moarns for his own son but wait he said i the LORD will seek to destroy all the nations against israel then they who is they jews of cause look at who jesus who the religous leaders pieaced him and crusified him when was zacahria written about 180bcc

read a few and you will find out either how stupid you were or how the dark ages existed for fifteen hundred years.

When Joseph was in Egypt, his brothers did not recognize him because he was dressed as an Egyptian. The Meshiach ben Yosef has also been dressed as an Egyptian over the past 1900 years. Jesus, or Yeshua is meshiach...there is no conversion, just an embrace of what has been promised to our fathers years ago; a promise of hope, promise of deliverance and peace. Now is the time to teshuvah and be washed as white as snow!

Postscript to my post #62: The "Great Commission" of the Christian faith says, "Go ye therefore and teach all nations..." (Mt.28:19) Are you really stupid enough to not see that the "magnanimous" WCC/RCC exclusion of Jews from Christian evangelism is nothing but the ultimate ghettoization?

Havn't they learned anything after 2000 years?? Notice how they don't call for the mas conversion of Moslems, I guess they prefer to keep their empty heads on their shoulders after all.

The first and only religion. jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew. He was not a christian,but a Jew. If he was alive today,he would pray with his fellow Jews and would be appalled at what was done to his fellow Jews in his name by the christians christians time for you to convert to Judaism not the otther way around. We Jews are the Chosen People and not you!

now he's born 4-bce, the "census" of Quirinious is after 6ce, the ten year pregnancy, huh? the history was manufactured to suppport a myth, the bible used to support the NT uses the greek translation not the original hebew, it used Josephus to create history where there was none and often wrong, the writers of the NT did not ever live in the area, got simple geography wrong, everything JC said was said in either the "OT" or mishnah or midrash, or taken directly from "pagan" myths and legends, every ritual taken from the "mythical pagans" and finally it was all gnosis originally then was given a body and enforced by the power of Rome, all pagan libraries burned, all pagan temple burned, all who resisted burned, Jews left and have spent since the year 325 fleeing the lunatics.

When I served as a missionary in Israel (12 years) I encountered lots of those phony evangelicals who claim they are true Christians. This is`not rtue because they even don't worship Mary.. As to Jews I was really sad because they don't agree to convert at all. Even when I converted to Judaism and started to claim I am Jewish and speak Hebrew they never believed me and refused to hear about our Christ. This is the reason I am quite pessimistic, but effort must be made nevertheless.

who are supernaturally protected during the Great Tribulation, who are 144,000 virgins (true in the faith) from the TRIBES of Israel, not just the tribe of Judah (Jews). The names of the 144,000 are in the ELS codes of the Song of Songs of Solomon. They are people living now, so the end of the Gentile world era is coming in this generation that Israel became a State again, just as the Bible foretold.

He was only a Jewish preacher . As i wrote , you are welcome , but missionaries not . If you think that forbiding missionary work is antidemocratic , no problem for me . Missionaries should be expelled , stande pede , immediately .

Why should she have reacted otherwise ? She knows that in calling this bipede rebeccaca .

We are living in a world where everyone in the USA and Israel: Jews and Gentiles (Evangeical Christians) are being threatened with anialation by evil forces in this world IE Russia, Iran, and others who are harboring terrorists. We the people need to stop being offended at each unless one is being threatened by another by anialation. We need to chill out.

can quote chapter and verse on any subject FROM MEMORY. That does not make him right on all subjects, but when he quotes verse after verse after verse that the world (earth) will NOT end, that is believeable. The Gentile world system will end and the earth will be RENEWED. The Messiah as the Lion of Judah who saves the Jews and the earth from destruction has been to earth many times; but not at Armageddon since that has not happened, yet. The bible says the eyes of the Jews were blinded to the identity of the Messiah when he came as a LAMB for the slaughter. When the angels gather the elect from the four corners of the earth, I hope you will be among them if you believe in Adonai/ha'Shem coming as the Lion of Judah to judge the nations for how they treated the Jews. You do not know Adonai is/was/always will be Yeshua, son of Yahweh. Yeshua also came as Melchisedek, King of Salem that Abraham the Patriarch gave a tenth of all he had to. Yeshua was in the firey furnace with Meshach, Shadrack, and Abednego, the friends of Daniel in the days of King Nebuchadnezzer of Babylon. Yeshua appeared to Daniel in the Bible as the Angel of the Lord. Who else could fulfill all the commandments after the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed? No one. It had to be Yeshua who came to be sacrificed as a lamb to take back the authority over the earth the devil stole from Adam. Read the book by Messianic Rabbi Michael Rood called, "The Mystery of Iniquity...the Legal Prerequisites of the Coming of the Messiah." Read also the book, "The Hebrew Yeshua and the Greek Jesus" and see how sadly most Christians are deceived by their pastors.

First of all shabbat was given to Jews & Jews only not to Gentiles. Next Gentiles have only 7 commandments & no more. Last but not least this grafting business is a crock & Judaism & Christianity are 2 seperate & incompatable belief systems. Jews pray only to G-d & G-d alone not to father,son or spooky!!!!

Tanakh says "Yisrael has been saved by the YHVH With an everlasting salvation; You will not be put to shame or humiliated To all eternity (Yeshayahu 45.17). Yoel says "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the YHVH Will be delivered. Furthermore Yeshua said "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd". Here Yeshua is saying that Gentiles does not belongs to his fold (Jewish) and gentiles should become one with his fold meaning they must become Jewish Yochanan 10.16. Romans says "For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee" Romans 11.13-26. Again, here clearly says that gentiles must become part of Jewish Olive tree. Not other way around.

Isa 11:13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim. How long, Father?!!

We all know that supreme court is corrupt and is incapable of making any fair rulings. The supreme court are unable to rule on any laws that concern halachic rulings. The supreme court is in the process of being reorganize with real judges. You and your jews for jesssus friends will be exported to the your birth country. christian and jews for jesssus have thousands of choice to live like rome, england, france, poland europe, america, mexico, russia... pick a country.