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Haredi men discovered secretly surfing tabooed sites
Omer Ori
Published: 22.09.08, 07:31
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61. Happy Haredi wives ?
RCA ,   USA   (09.22.08)
If this curious situation involving Haredim husbands can help contribute to keeping Haredim wives more content, then this might not necessarily be such a bad thing. But, you can't deny that lustfull gawking displayed by Haredim is not good for their public relations, whether married or not.
62. We can't fight porn with the Torah
Jonathan   (09.23.08)
Because the Torah is weak because our flesh. But only with the power of the Ruach HaKodesh we can stop living to the flesh. And this is because the carnally mind is death but to be spiritually minded is life and shalom. How we can live in the Ruach? Only throught Mashiach Yeshua. Shalom Aleichem.
63. lock the computers
Ethan ,   Israel   (09.23.08)
I went to a major american university and our computer labs and libraries required that users enter there id and password to access any software as well as the internet. I would think that our Universities have the capacity to implement such measures if students are bothered by porn surfing Haredim
64. amai???
mhung   (09.23.08)
The only one standing to benefit from this "expose" is the Financial Dept of the university; to simply cut the hours of operation of service to the student and faculty community .. without a Good Reason .. was untenable. So now those lustful dripping Haredi cro magnons have provided that reason.
65. What's the Bracha that they make when they open a new site?
Alan ,   SA   (09.23.08)
66. What a surprise!
a woman ,   the center   (09.23.08)
And this phenomenon was news worthy? I can not believe that people were surprised. They are disgusting!
67. Paul # 39 , there is NO difference
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.23.08)
You have perverts EVRYWHERE , not more here or there . The difference , seculars don't claim to have HIGH moral standards because of their education . How many times have'nt we read such claims by religious people on this site ? Secondly , is looking at porn sites a perversion for you ? Perversion is when you have relations with someone who don't want them , who can't refuse because of age , and so on . Not when it are two adult consenting persons , even with the same gender .
68. S. Judah , London . Thanks
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.23.08)
I asked it as a "joke" , but will read it attentively . שנה טובה
69. RCA , silent such a long time !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.23.08)
But when it's porn related , you wake up ! Do you think that they use those "techniques" with their wives ?
70. Charles’ perverted thinking
Jo Jo   (09.23.08)
Secular may not claim to abide by the dictates of the bible but they themselves recognize that when it comes to sexual matters, there is a moral standard to expect. How many Politicians have been caught with their pants down? If the secular had no problem with immoral conduct, why are secular papers full sex scandals? Why does it make news? Because they know it is wrong. Even consenting persons and even with the same gender. It is still not viewed not ordinary to be gay, that’s why when a celebrity “comes out” it makes news. If it was normal who gives a damn about their sexuality. Being religious doesn’t ever mean leading a more moral life. What it means is knowing what is right and wrong and striving to do what is right. Life for a religious person is about grappling with the evil inclination. When a person succumbs, has he let down his HIGH moral standard? Yes. But is this a reason to poke fun at them? No. The difference is that for the secular person he feels much less guilt and for the religious person, he will hopefully try and correct himself. That is the process a religious person takes every day. THEY are not angels. So stop bashing them for trying! Your view of perversion is perverted. You would say someone having relations with an animal is not a perversion b/c they both consent!
71. Charles also watches porn
Jo Jo   (09.23.08)
I can tell you that it is the secular that produce and demand it. No true religious person would demand such things! Agree you are worse. Are you saying that those who take drugs are worse than those who produce and sell them? If no drugs were available, no one could take them and the world would be a better place. Same with porn which has a similar detrimental effect on society.
72. wow! so religious people are sinners too?
Yanni   (09.23.08)
Thank goodness for the mainstream media who are sooooo sincere and pure and uncover these hypocrisies for us. Thank you mainstream media for setting the tone for our thinking !!!
73. Yanni, religious does not = sin free!
Jo Jo   (09.23.08)
Everyone sins. The difference is that the non-religious don't think they are! Where in the article does in mention sin. You say it is a sin to see porn. But how do you know it is? I guess the pure secular know what is right and wrong.
74. This website certainly can be considered porn as well.
Dreikus Shtaufloch ,   Sweden   (09.23.08)
I don't see why you castigate your weaklings from the religous people when all your society from herzel, bin gurion and the knesset on down advocate sexuala hedonism and godlessness. Is this story a crow of your triumph against your God !? Honestly the impression in the globe is that your valueless socialist society will be destroyed for immorality - whether thru god directly or his messengers the equaly repugnant muslim monsters who you've created. Then perhaps in hell you will not tempt your weaklins from the religious losers.
75. secular israelis are pornographic by definition
Haman Ervmcrav ,   isfahan iran   (09.23.08)
So sick lowlifes who seem Haredi want to better understand secular motives.
76. the normality of porn
vb   (09.23.08)
It amazes me when the topic becomes one of 'porn' that all the porn addicts come out to justify and normalise what is essentially a sickness of the mind and soul. I am sorry - but this is not normal male behaviour (objectifying women and children) - or is it. It's also interesting that the Jews are reponsible for the porn industry and now are entrapping their fellow religious jews. So we should barely be surprised that so many jewish men - religious or not - are porn addicts. You are responsbile for the moral cesspool plaguing our (predominantly) christian nations.
77. vb is right
Jo Jo   (09.23.08)
the Jews collectively are responsible for all the world's ills, and wars too. No wonder Charles wants to assimilate. He wants to drop the Jew stigma.
78. They are human like us (end)
eiran ,   brasil   (09.23.08)
79. security issues??!
dina   (09.23.08)
why not do like all other universities I-N T-H-E W-O-R-L-D and ensure the computers can only be used by those with authorised log-ins and install machines using swipe cards in order to enter the building/computer room. reducing the opening hours isn't fair on the students anyway, why should they suffer because of the hypocrites??! moreover, there are serious security issues going on here - that anyone can walk into a university without being checked, let alone an ISRAELI one??! this is insane!!! was nothing learnt from the Hebrew U cafeteria bombing? and that was an EMPLOYEE! they're asking for trouble at Bar Ilan and i've never heard anything so irresponsible...it's disgusting.
80. Yo Yo # 71 , don't tell us you don't watch porn
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.23.08)
No religious person will ask for porn , you wrote . But they are watching it , just the same . Nobody will produce something if there is no demand , and charidi people are also asking for it . How do you know that no charidi is producing them ? You certainly were looking at all those sites to check it .
81. Another Freebee from the State
shrinkDave ,   mia USA   (09.23.08)
What these mideaval black hats are doing is there own business. Isn't it amazing, though, how these parasites manage to suck the treasury out of every shekel even in the area of pornography? How cheap can you get!
82. Say it's no so, Batman
Dan ,   U.S.   (09.23.08)
How terrible!!! Maybe Rachel (pseudonym) could sue the university for thousands of dollars claiming severe emotional distress when she inadvertently encountered such a horrible display of naked flesh being viewed by men of such holiness!
83. Religion is just a Golden Calf
Jonathan   (09.23.08)
While many people thinks that religion make better the world. This is just a lie. Religion, no matter the name can't help people to live a life pleasant to the eyes of Elohim. Religion looks good but in the interior is full of lie, deception, sin, lust, avodah zarah, kinah, rogez, kitot, etc. Are we destined to to live like that? No ! Anybody can change, but you have to believe and have emunah in Elohim to change. Everybody that want to change and live in ahave, simcha, shalom, zitzfleisch, chesed and full of Emunah just have to believe in Elohim and ask Him for the Ruach HaKodesh through Mashiach Yeshua. And remember if many people hate the name Yeshua then we have to stop reading our siddurim because is full of the name of Yeshua. Shalom Aleichem,
84. Halos are tarnished
Ben ,   Monroe, USA   (09.23.08)
So some herediim break their own rules. Such a shande. Such nonsense. When those who set the rules do the same thing in ways they don't don't want mentioned, why should anyone be amazed? After all music defiles the mind, seeing a ladies bare forearm denotes immodesty, seeing a lady in swimwear makes her a whore, not to mention the tragedy of husband and wife sitting together in schule or dancing together at their own wedding. OY VEH!!! What would Hashem say? Maybe He should destroy such as He did at Sodom and Gamorra.
85. I am liberal Roman Catholic and I love porn websites too
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (09.23.08)
Whats the big deal? They are doing is in the privacy. I have a computer at home and like to surf quolity gay porn sites. Whats wrong with that? My husband doesn't care so there is no problem. Porn can be clean and beautiful, not dirty like some people believe.
86. Horny Jewish Men
Av Waldir ,   Curitiba, SC, Brasil   (09.24.08)
Now there's a novel topic. Maybe we are all of us, all over the world, the SAME? PERHAPS? No religion can stop desire and no man can stop G-d
87. Can you expect more from these "men"?
Sara ,   Canada   (09.24.08)
When I was in Israel for a couple of years I would see these charadim everywhere surfing porn. From town in Jlem to Tel Aviv and everywhere in between. They especially liked the internet places that had private rooms for each computer. Disgusting pigs. Study Torah by day, and naked woman by night. Sick dogs. And then they have the chutzpa to take it upon themselves to for the "modesty crew"? Throwing acid on girls?
88. I'm sure YNET Staff looks @ porn openly+ regularly w/o shame
Velvel ,   silver spring   (09.23.08)
So since the author of this article is probably a porn fiend himself and finds nothing wrong with it for secular people like him to surf porn sites, on what grounds can he condemn haredi men who go astray or fall to the temptation?
89. #69- Hello Charles. Have been busy.
RCA ,   USA   (09.24.08)
I think, sometimes it is better to be thought stupid and remain silent, then to speak and remove all doubt. Who knows ? There are some that still believe the old joke, that the married Haredim still use the sheet with the hole in it. Either way, true love is a sacred thing.
90. Sigh, It's tough to admit growing old
Jacob Blues ,   New York City, USA   (09.24.08)
After reading the headline, I honestly thought the article was about Haredi surfers and figured there were beaches banned by the rabbis, though I couldn't figure out how and why. Just the idea of Haredi Jews taking a turn on the north shore of Hawaii, or 'hanging-10' off the California coast, brought a smile to my face. Oh well.
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