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British MP: Israel exploiting Holocaust
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Published: 15.01.09, 21:23
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61. what kind of...?
tom ,   toronto, canada   (01.16.09)
what kind of person cannot tell the victims from the murderers? after a complete withdrawal of the last israeli from gaza, the "peace-loving" palestinians fired 4,000 rockets at israeli civilians, each one of which is an act of war and a war crime under international law. in spite of a 6-month truce, they still shot 2,000 rockets last year! this has nothing to do with the holocaust, or with gerald kufman's grandmother. it has everything to do with the racist bigotry and genocidal hatred of hamas, and the war crimes that they refuse to stop committing. he is a disgrace and should refrain from desecrating the memories of those murdered by the nazis. if he doesn't understand the difference between the germans' "final solution" and israel's right to self-defence against the war crimes committed by hamas, without interruption for 8 years, then he is either very stupid or willfully evil. if he cannot see a difference between the fighters of the warsaw ghetto, fighting for their lives, and the gunmen of hamas, bragging about destroying israel, and killing all the jews, and mindlessly shooting rockets into israeli towns, then he is an idiot. unfortunately, his being a jew and a member of parliament make him a highly visible one.
62. #58 This May Indeed Be :
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (01.16.09)
"A virtual concentration camp" as you describe it but at least THIS concentration camp can defend itself as demonstrated on occasions too numerous to mention.
63. you are a funny people
(01.16.09)
You can not axcept any critic not even from one of you ... no wounder that you are thousends of years never had peace ... normal with such trouble makers people .
64. #56 You should read again
Meir ,   Jerusalem   (01.16.09)
Look at Kaufman's words again: "I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants." Who does he imply are dismissing Hamas as militants? (A) Israelis and their overseas supporters. Who would have dismissed Warsaw Ghetto Jews as militants? (B) Nazis and Nazi-lovers. He seeks to imply (A) and (B) are comparable, in such a way as to be able to weasel out of any legitimate accusation against him. The fact that, at nearly 80, he is long past his sell-by date can't be offered as an excuse for his offensiveness and poor taste. He's always been like this.
65. If gentiles feel so guilty, why is there still so much
Kauffman the ,   lying liar!   (01.16.09)
anti-semitism?
66. Israeli troops don't act like Nazis
Maria ,   MD   (01.16.09)
They're more merciful.I saw some pictures posted by one of the correspondents in Huffington Post.The IDF soldiers playing with Palestinian kids.Tourists in Israel feel safer when they see soldiers patrolling the area.
67. I read a lot of books about the Holocaust
Maria ,   MD   (01.16.09)
some survivors don't want to share their bitter experience with their children and grandchildren,that's why these children turn out to be like Amira Hass or Kaufman.Amira lives in Ramallah.These two probably have many Arab friends and no Jewish friends at all.
68. #3 So what if he's a Homosexual?
Liliane ,   Brighton, UK   (01.16.09)
#3 So what if he is a homosexual? Your intolerance is no better than his.
69. He wants the Moslem and antisemitic vote.
Liliane ,   Brighton, SX, UK   (01.16.09)
Kaufman is a Kapo Jew who collaborates with Hamas, the new Nazis. He wants the Moslem and antisemitic vote.
70. His E mail address
Elly ,   Vienna, Austria   (01.16.09)
Here is the bimbos E mail address: cootesn@parliament.uk
71. Ah yes, another schmuck
Ben ,   Monroe USA   (01.16.09)
That guy may be an MP, but he is a schmuck from the word go. When brains were handed out, he was obviously skipped. Any asshole can open his mouth and prove his stupidity, he sure did.
72. Gerald Kaufman, embarrassed to be Jewish
Romo ,   London, UK   (01.16.09)
Gerald Kaufman is the epitome of the self-hating Jew. He never wastes time before he can vilify Jews. He's a sad little man in a vivid embroidered suit who doesn't know which way the wind blows... Ignore him. No one takes him seriously. Sad sack of an idiot.
73. Kaufman is a pig.
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (01.16.09)
74. ironic?
tom ,   toronto, canada   (01.16.09)
ironic, isn't it? mp kaufman's support for the arab cause is a rather dubious enterprise, because while the jewish community may ostracize homosexuality, sharia law would sentence him to death. (at last check, saudi arabia and iran both execute homosexuals, very publicly.) perhaps he should check his friends a little more closely, before his self-righteous prejudices get him into real trouble.
75. More British crap!
Ian ,   Canada   (01.16.09)
Can you believe this garbage propaganda. What ever happened to English resolve and sense of decency? It's just another ominous sign that Britain, like the rest of the world, cannot tell right from wrong any more. Does no one there have any integrity left???
76. "Ruthlessly And Cynically Exploits The
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (01.16.09)
Guilt from Gentiles" ??? said Mr. Kaufman.That is ,assuming that the gentle gentiles have guilty feelings.Perhaps the only guilt felt by many of them is that they did not successfully complete the task ?
77. Meir K is living in the Non-Secular UK
AY_Lamb ,   USA   (01.16.09)
Ok these people are his neighbors and he lives amongst them, it is his home and there are Jews there he cares for I am sure. I understand why he wants to show them the complexity of "free will" and individuality so, he and his friends don't become stereotyped. Even if I don't agree with what he says I can certainly appreciate his perspective but, what I can't accept is the assertion Jews in Israel are exploiting some sort of guilt from the "Nations: because guess what there is no guilt from the Nations; actually most of the Goyim have become convinced that this "Holocaust" that transpired in 1930's and 40's Europe is at worst a hoax and at best an exaggeration.
78. The anti-Semites love the Jews who hate or criticize other
Dan ,   USA   (01.16.09)
Jews.
79. ISRAEL WILL NEVER BE NAZI'S!
Dani ,   VA, USA   (01.16.09)
First of all, to be a nazi you must be against jews. We aren't against ourselvs. Second of all, The arabs including the 99% arabs in the UN, don't believe that the holocaust ever occured. So.... How is it that we are creating a Holocaust? Doesn't Make sense. When they attack us, and kill innocent people and captue people without any moral behind it aren't they commiting something worse?
80. #48 responds to #59
(01.16.09)
For the record, I do not agree with Kaufman's claim that the Israeli government is exploiting the Holocaust. As you say, he provides no evidence. As for the issue of whether he is a traitor or not, I respectfully have to disagree with you. "Supporting each other" is admirable, in times of war it is certainly necessary(for many different reasons), but the term "self-hating jew"(along with a bunch of other derogatory terms used in this talkback section) seems to me to be a way of delimiting discourse and inhibiting free speech. Are all dissenters traitors? The "much deeper" of your post intrigues me. Does it go deeper than other types of ideological indoctrination?
81. Exploiting Holocaust
Matty ,   Toronto Canada   (01.16.09)
Note this theory isn't new. It comes from Norman Finkelstein's book "The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering" published in 2000. Finkelstein argues that there's a conspiracy by Jewish organizations and the Israeli government to exploit the memory of the Holocaust in order to deflect attention or criticism from suffering Palestinians. German historian Hans Mommsen called it 'a most trivial book, which appeals to easily aroused anti-Semitic prejudices.' Israeli historian Omer Bartov, writing for The New York Times Book Review, judged The Holocaust Industry to be marred by the same errors he denounces in those who exploit the Holocaust for profit or politics: 'It is filled with precisely the kind of shrill hyperbole that Finkelstein rightly deplores in much of the current media hype over the Holocaust; it is brimming with the same indifference to historical facts, inner contradictions, strident politics and dubious contextualizations; and it oozes with the same smug sense of moral and intellectual superiority... Like any conspiracy theory, it contains several grains of truth; and like any such theory, it is both irrational and insidious.'
82. Kaufman's grandmother
Richard ,   Baltimore   (01.16.09)
Kaufman says "my grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers" Obviously she died for nothing. That's what her grandson has become. In fact, worse than nothing. Much worse
83. Kaufman is a known collaborator
Truth Hertz ,   UK   (01.16.09)
84. Kaufman
British Oleh ,   Jlm   (01.16.09)
I thought this superannuated idiot had been put out to grass years ago - he's well beyond his use by date! Obviously the senility is getting to him - about time he was sectioned and sent off to some closed institution, and I don't mean the House of Lords
85. Dear Mr.Kaufman
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (01.16.09)
In a sense,I also do not particularly like what Israel is doing.I will not,however criticise it as I am sure the country is fighting for its life and for the security if its citizens.But to compare this to the Holocaust is wrong,like comparing apples and bananas.The holocaust was a unique ,systematic,industrialised attempt to wipe out a race ,a conspiracy.Sadly,Hamas only seems to understand brute force and hard blows.To use the word HOLOCAUST is offensive and inappropriate and,by the way,if Israel's actions are wicked and brutal then so is every war ever fought in the history of mankind.The people in Gaza voted for violence,they prayed for it and begged for it and guess what? they received it.this ,Gerald ,is the harsh truth.
86. #64 take it easy and have a breath
George ,   Canada   (01.16.09)
Why are you trying to complicate things .He just pointed how the Israeli Government is ignoring the world opinion and rules by exploiting the acquired world sympathy toward Jews after the Holocaust. Counting on American veto from one side and the support from the rest of the Western country that feel guilty toward Holocaust Israel is behaving as above the low state (last example UN1801 resolution and over 50 UN resolution condemning Israeli actions against Palestinian are being ignored by Israel). You will blame me with anti-Semitic. I don’t hate Jews and not an Arab fan either I am at the side of the justice, period.
87. Lost opportunity to keep mouth closed.
Botafotonisso ,   RJ BR   (01.16.09)
This stupid guy lost a precious chance in his life to keep his mouth closed.
88. Sick Beyond Words
Wisconsin Marshall ,   USA   (01.16.09)
Oh, I'm sorry. #1 already wrote that. For the analogy to fit, Kaufman's grandmother must have been shelling, terrorizing, and murdering German civilians for years - if indeed any part of this grandmother story is true. By the way, who are Kaufman's constituents? He might be smarter than he sounds.
89. WHEN? WHEN WAS THE HOLOCAUST EXPLOITED?
Korem ,   New York, USA   (01.16.09)
I am SICK AND TIRED of hearing this argument. WHEN? When did the Israeli government use the Holocaust to justify actions in Gaza? When did Zionists or any Israelis ever use the Holocaust or Nazism to justify ANYTHING? I hear the Israelis justify their actions by pointing to previous Hamas actions, statements, intentions, rocket attacks, etc. But I never hear Israel point to the Holocaust out of nowhere and then use it for justification of anything. ALL THE PEOPLE CLAIMING THIS ARE SETTING UP A STRAWMAN ARGUMENT. Moreover, usually people accuse Israel of "committing a Holocaust" so on top of completely making up a story about how Israel justifies itself and then attacking it, they are hypocrites as well!
90. Kauffman
Michael ,   London UK   (01.16.09)
Kaulfman is a joke- i have followed this Excuse for a Jew for years--i think even other British MPs that are not Jewish see him as a self hateing Jew--he was even beaten up a few years ago on his way to a Palistine solidarity meeting by other palistine supporters
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