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Anti-Semitic decision in Spain
Dror Nissan
Published: 31.01.09, 18:03
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31. We can counter
Misha ,   Tel Aviv   (01.31.09)
Let's sue the Spaniards for crimes against Jews during the inquisition....
32. To #4, looking from a safe distance
Sobieski ,   Eurabia   (01.31.09)
I know my fellow europeans, some of them believe to be very smart. Didnt you hear that islamists love to take human shields, because they want that things like this do happen and that people like you react in a predictable way ? There are lots of examples of "Human Shields" taking, look it up ie on youtube. I am sure that Israel does its best to save human life, but in a war it unfortunately often wont be possible. I dont know if I can consider Europeans lucky, not having to fight for existence (yet) ?
33. #25
Wanda ,   Montreal   (01.31.09)
clear to the point, concise and succinct. hat's off to your comment sir!
34. 1bullet can kill a terrorist you should t throw 1 tone bomb
S   (01.31.09)
35. to #25 Jerrold Cohen
Arn ,   Yehud, Israel   (01.31.09)
How old are you Jerrold? My guess would be 16 to 19. At this age you have all the perfect answers. What I wouldn't give to be 16- 19 again... The real world is altogether a different galaxy. But one day you'll grow up and reflect with amusement at your gross stupidity at this time in your life. I suggest you enjoy these years along with the walls in your room papered over with pictures of Obama. Watch how quickly they peel.
36. solidaridad latina
Michael ,   Treuen, Germany   (01.31.09)
After Venezuela and Bolivia, Espana points its finger to Mideast. While the government supports Israel parts of Spain join Latins in South America.
37. antime
semsem   (01.31.09)
Sheshem!, all are my enemy
38. #34 bomb destroy weapons & explosives in\under the houses
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39. Two Can Play "Fun And Games :
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (01.31.09)
Spanish are pushing their luck.
40. Jerrold Cohene and fantasy island
Arie ,   BaGolan   (01.31.09)
"Soldiers could have gone into that apartment and arrested him to bring him to trial" We just saw quite clearly how easily the hamass terrorists are willing to place women in children in the way as human kevlar to protect their terrorists. Explains why shehada was living in apt complex surrounded, at the will of allah, by scores of women and children. Had boots gone in on the ground -hamass would have been more than prepared to allow hundreds of kids act as human kevlar to protect the terror leader. A win win was necessarily made: large bomb; terrorist gone, and with MINIMAL collateral damage. The blame itself lies with the hamass leadership.THey will pay one way or the other
41. TO#32SOBIESKI: SAFE DISTANCE....?
Objectivetry ,   EUROPE   (01.31.09)
Yes, Sobieski you are „right”. Im in safe distance: in Tel Aviv where i can buy Haaretz every day, and i heard about how Israel poured the LEAD – if you understand what im talking about…- to nearly 1000 civilians ( that the others were terrorists…ok). Nmind. Its not the point. (Besides this im fully agree if somebody would like to save his conutry from the rockets..etc BUT not through the life of innocent people) Secret service? (Emad Mugniyeh, Said Sayyam, Yahya Ayyash, Ahmed Yasin…like this ..but not through innocent children) You write: in a war its not possible to save human life…OK lets say..BUT then after the war you have to face the consequences..(Geneva Convention...if you heard about it…de jure belli ac pacis…) Referring to your last sentence: I think we europeans fought fair enough for our existence… and we fought not only for our but for the existence of the jewish people..as well (1939-45)
42. for lawrence
gor ,   london   (01.31.09)
why are you so worked up? what do you mean that it is the time for a 'little hardball'? what can you do, who cares? if you didn't do anything wrong you shouldn't worry.if you don't care about other people opinions, say so, you can not have it both ways.you either don't give a damn or respect international laws.and please don't be so arogant , if you can!
43. Spain is a Pain
Mark Watkins ,   East Bernstadt , USA   (01.31.09)
Spain at one time was a Great Nation , now they need to Repent , like The rest of Europe ! G-d Bless The great Nation of Israel .
44. #25 Try planet earth ...
Softwalker ,   Canada   (01.31.09)
"Soldiers could have gone into that apartment"? And Shehada would have just sat there waiting for them? Maybe on planet Jerrold Cohen. On planet earth, and more particularly, in Gaza, the guy used his entire family as human shields. If you think that's OK, perhaps you could demonstrate the correct technique by going to Gaza soon. With a name like Cohen, you might survive 24 hours ...
45. So Compensate them!
Joern ,   Germany   (01.31.09)
If israelis think that they have right to kill 14 innocents and injure 100 innocents for killing a man, which is a totally brutal act, then they shouldn't fear a trial. They wouldn't panic. But it is clear that their army is doing all kinds of barbaric attacks against civilians just cause they are not able to fight hamas face to face.. and their shin-bit is not able to do any usefull operations against hamas.... Thats why they are running away from such a trial by shouting and using rotten slogans as anti-semitism and the whole bullshit logic used prior to WWII... A trial is not an indictment ... but such a behavior shows the Inevitable outcome of such a trial... the indictment of the IDF criminals
46. The spanish judge needs to be "investigated"
Johnny ,   Stockholm Sweden   (01.31.09)
He is as it seems an enemy of the free world.
47. TB's #1, #4, #14, #17, #20, #25 prove one thing
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (01.31.09)
That no matter how much logical reasoning we would give them, and no matter how eloquent and lucid the writer would be in bringing his points across - these Israel-haters never listen, and never let the facts confuse them. I bet they hardly read this article. They're just using it as a stage for repeating over and over the same lies, that Israel targets women and children, that Israel performs "war crimes" on Palestinians, and so on. Repeat a lie enough times and the world would end up believeing it. I have a question for each and every one of these responders: where were your protests, when rockets kept falling on Sderot and Ashkelon in the past 8 years? Where were you when buses and restaurants blew up in Israel? Where were you when Hamas brutally executed Fatah operatives and threw them off of buildings in Gaza? Where were your protests to the Darfur genocide? Where were your protests when 100,000 people were massacred in Grozni by the Russians? Where were your protests when Iraqi shiite militants, execute their own fellow countrymen, on a daily basis? The fact that you only spend almost your entire energy criticising Israel and no other country which performs much more horrifying crimes, with much less justification - screams of your hypocrisy, and your blind hatred toward Israel.
48. #41
Efrat   (01.31.09)
What planet are you living on?? "We fought for the existence of the Jewish people???!!!"
49. #17 Yes! Shame on YOU Instead!
Australian Guy   (02.01.09)
Self-righteous twits like you who think you're the holders of "the truth".. Got news for you sport.. You don't KNOW ANYTHING but BIAS and ANTI-SEMITISM. Be absolutely comforted by the fact that there are millions who TOTALLY and COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU! Crawl back into your frosty little hole in UKstan and belt up.
50. #47 That's right Tahl - They cant prove anything.
Australian Guy   (02.01.09)
Its all Jew hatred disguised by 'legitimate concerns'. Not one anti-Semite who has posted here in support of the Spanish court - can prove a damn thing. ...unless they're happy with the type of 'justice' dispensed by a kangaroo court ...
51. SPANISH GET "KANGAROO COURT" RIGHT (see defintion)
Australian Guy   (02.01.09)
This definition from Answers.com is "spot on". Idioms: Kangaroo Court A self-appointed tribunal that violates established legal procedure; also, a dishonest or incompetent court of law. For example, The rebels set up a kangaroo court and condemned the prisoners to summary execution, or That judge runs a kangaroo court--he tells rape victims they should have been more careful. This expression is thought to liken the jumping ability of kangaroos to a court that jumps to conclusions on an invalid basis. [Mid-1800s] How true is this...
52. WORTH READING: 1/3 spaniards descend from jews!
Flavio ,   Sao Paulo, Brazil   (02.01.09)
VEJA, Brazilian leading weekly magazine, brought a very, very interesting article in its December 28th, 2008 edition. It is available in Portuguese at . Hopefully someone whose English skills are better than mine could provide a translation for Ynet readers? Anyway, the article is about a genetic study that's been recently disclosed, showing that no less than a third of all portugueses and spaniards descend from Jews or Moors! It is very, very worth reading! Oh, BTW: the article also mentions a recent poll, showing that about half of spaniards hold a negative view of Jews, one of the highess rates in Europe - and the last sentence of article goes like this (free translation): 'In the light of the genetic study, it can be said that this is a distorted view of their own image in the mirror'. No further comments...
53. SPAIN IS FAST BECOMING MOORISH AGAIN
Jorge ,   tegucigalpa   (02.01.09)
El Cid is turning in his grave, as is most of Europe, Muslim invasion is slowly undermining their reasoning, are again aproaching the midle ages. Spain as all of Europe, will have time to be sorry for their shortsight. What does not surprise me, is Spains blatant and open hatred for the Jews. They have robbed and killed Jews for centuries, they fought alongside Germany during second world war, so what can you expect, they are back at what they are good at. Soon women in Spain are going to be wearing headscarves.
54. act of war and terror
mori   (02.01.09)
israel needs to knock off some spanish leaders and judges to show them them they will not be intimidated or terrorized. but of course israel is acting like a beat little puppy dog when it really needs some fangs and lash out. this is what happens when you let ham ass beat you. you look weak instead of a force to be afraid of.
55. Slight mistake No 30
Marlene N. ,   New York City   (02.01.09)
Israel is the only hypocrisy in the Middle East. At least other countries are not pretending to be great democracies. You also seem to have something against Muslims. This is not about religion because Israel treats anyone who does not meet the racist requirement of who is Jewish exactly the same commiting its usual crimes and atrocities. And I know, because I have already lived in Israel, and in Haifa. Tell your b.s. to someone else while you enjoy your racist supremacy.
56. If you read only the newspapers in Spain...
Gur   (02.01.09)
... you won't have heard about the rockets, ABC has become more unfair and inaccurate in reporting over the last couple of decades, El Pais is left-wing looney elitist. They do not report the truth so the Spanish population (nice people but not the sharpest tools in the shed) has been fooled, and are making big fools out of themselves. It's a real shame because if they had access to genuine objective information they would not have become the blatant anti-zionists they are now.
57. But what about the Madrid process?
Gur   (02.01.09)
aka the Oslo process, the Annapolis process, the Kadima process? We mustn't forget the process, and o, yes don't forget to bring that roadmap! ha ha fools and knaves, apes and monkeys.
58. "Our chief weapon is hypocrisy. And lies. Our TWO chief ..."
Zvi   (02.01.09)
... weapons are hypocrisy and lies. And the ignorance of Europeans. Our THREE chief weapons are... ." (Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition! ---- Paraphrased. Of all the nations in Europe, Spain, whose current ruling party operated death squads only 20 years ago to kill POLITICAL opponents (not just terrorists) and refuses to condemn their tactics today, is the most laughable place in Europe to engage in this nonsense. Of course the reason it is the location for this legal dispute is that half of the country's population is openly anti-Semitic. I guess we'll see how far this new Spanish hypocrisy goes. Anyway, Israel's right to exist is not up to Spain to decide.
59. "sound all the alarms" etc.
Zvi   (02.01.09)
No, it is the responsibility of official Israel to TAKE EFFECTIVE ACTION. Which is not just reactive shouting, but rather PLANNING. Israel WILL be forced to attack terrorists in the future. It must ensure that when it does so, one aspect of every attack is the gathering of clear and presentable evidence against the terrorist and the gathering of CLEAR EVIDENCE that the terrorist operated from behind human shields. The media and legal war is part of the war, and requires the same savvy and innovation required by the combat itself.
60. spain
sam ,   usa   (02.01.09)
Why does Israel have to allways justify itself? Acuse Spain of genocide against Basques. I have seen a movie where it was shown that Spain tortures Basque freedom fighters.
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