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Anti-Semitic decision in Spain
Dror Nissan
Published: 31.01.09, 18:03
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91. Zeev , 87 , of course that i agree , but not
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.01.09)
completely . As we have an independant Justice , with independant Judges [ without a criminal past as the ex nazi judges in germany had ] so we don't need judges from different countries to investigate our so called "human rights abusers" They would be welcome to investigate the TRUE Human rights abusers . The buses , Sbarro , Seder , discotheques and other crimes comitted against innocent civilians .
92. For Antonio el Guarro Jarreta
a Antonio el Guarro ,   Israel   (02.01.09)
Inquisition never end in Spain; was continued by Franco; and now... what?I think the obliteration is a good idea- Ole y vale!
93. #92, it ended when Napoleon invaded
Danny   (02.01.09)
94. Thankes God!
Mahdi ,   Tehran,IR.Iran   (02.01.09)
It seems that Israeli crimes against humanity in Gaza is going to waken up the whole world! This is only a start. Be patient till the end!
95. #94, don't get too excited
Danny   (02.01.09)
in the west we have this thing called due process and the crazy idea you actually have to **prove** your claims. I know the courts are more streamlined in Iran.
96. #20, when did Israel give Hamas money?
Danny   (02.01.09)
and what "occupation" is Hamas "resisting" in Gaza?
97. #90, we were at war
Danny   (02.01.09)
at the time of the operation, the Palestinians were carrying out suicide bombings almost every single day. If Palestinians really were that concerned about civilian casualties then they shouldn't hide amongst civilians. This is a pretty open and shut case, it was a guy who is indisputably a senior military target. He was indisputably the target of the bomb and the other deaths were a side product of him being hit. I would be interested to see where it says in international law that if you cloak yourself in civilians that you are somehow immune from any fighting. As for this particular court case, we already know what is going to happen.... It will be thrown out. Just like it was in Belgium, New Zealand, the UK, the US and even Spain....
98. Anti-Semitic Decision
Joe ,   Israel   (02.01.09)
It always amazes me. Everyone talks about the poor "Palestinians" that were killed. How come no-one ever mentions the innocent Israelis that were massacered?
99. I wish you would know some more international law
unknown   (02.01.09)
Although i do understand that this article is intended at easing israeli public into there leaders being proscuted in spanish court and that it has no intention except in using an age old dogma of anti-semitism as a cloth that could be worn whenever the israelis want or need. HE might be anti-semitic i do not know or want to knoiw and he might be anti-israel, but that does not take away from the fact that under international law israeli leaders are no longer safe. I do know a thing or two about international law and the delberate assasniation of the hamas leader and with him 14 civilians is defintley a violation. If you want to respond to respond to the legal foundation and stop trying to hide, this is not only about israel this is about wether what israel is doing is aganist international law. Many countries and other leaders around the world are also awaiting proscuation for there crimes. So should those who committ crimes in the israeli-palestinain conflict.
100. Nurenberg Trials: I do not trust Israeli judges
zeev ,   switzerland   (02.01.09)
I ask for Nurenberg trials in Jerusalem and Gaza to judge the criminals among Hamas and Israeli leaders. As Israelis don't trust Palestinian judges, and Palestinians do not trust Israeli judges, then let us have an international court in Jerusalem and Gaza. Do you accept such a position? if yes, then let us call for such a court immediately.
101. Zeev , do you trust international judges ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.01.09)
Read what i wrote already , no need to do it a second time .
102. anti-Semitic decision in Spain
harry katz ,   southold, New York   (02.02.09)
Dear Editor, It is clear that we will be witnessing a very severe surge in anti-Israel sentiment throughout the world in the next few years that will put all Jews at risk. Unfortunately, as a Jewish American, I have to say that much of this emanates from Israel's intransigence and behavior towards palestinians. It is one thing to fight attacking armies like Egypt and Syria, quite another to bomb the impoverished indigenous residents of the area- the people of Gaza, to demolish the homes of palestinians in the West Bank, and to continue to build illegal settlements while claiming to be for peace. The only way out of this morass is for Israel to take a proactive role in legitimizing the aspirations of the Palestinian people.
103. spain
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (02.02.09)
Spain is conducting an antisemitic campaign against Israel for 2 reasons,first,....it is fun,second,spain wants to curry favor with Ben Laden,Ben Laden expresst his wish to get back Andeluz,by attacking Israel,Spain wishes to appease Benladen,and form with him some kind of alliance,so,he wil not atack spain,and will give up Andeluz.
104. Flavio # 52
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (02.02.09)
It is believed that 60% of the people of Palma Demayorka are of Jewish descent,so was Elisabeth the first .through her mother ,Ann Bolein,King Ferdinand and his queen,Isabel were also of Jewish descent.So,genes mean nothing,what is important in shaping a person's character and attitude,is culture and enviroment,there are hardly any Jews in Spain,but the press is very antisemitic,90% of spaniards don't go to church, so,what is the reason for spanish antisemitism? very simple,5 centuries of church dominace,shaped the character of spain.Antisemitic,Poland,Spain, Greece,are the best prove,that an enemy doesn't have to exist in order to be real.
105. To #102
Mark ,   New York   (02.02.09)
Israeli leaders tried that many, many times. Unfortunately, Palestinian asperations are to replace Israel with Palestine, not live next to Israel in peace. Please learn a little about the history before giving everyone your uneducated opinion.
106. He is back...
Walt K ,   Sherbrooke, Canada   (02.02.09)
Torquemada !..
107. Sure, sue the Jews
Ronnbo ,   Canada   (02.02.09)
But how about suing Arafat, Hamas, Abbas, Hizballah, ++++++++++++++etc
108. Israel violating international law? Really?
Jehudah Ben-israel ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (02.02.09)
The operatives of Hamas prior to the latest conflict in Gaza manufactured explosive devices in people's homes, in mosques, in universities and in the basements of hospitals, and stockpiled them and more powerful weapons delivered from abroad in the very same institutions. This is a violation of international law!!! Agreements with Israel signed by the parties prohibit the introduction of weapons into Gaza, yet Hamas has accumulated short, medium and long range rockets and missiles as well as high degree explosives provided by Iran. This is a violation of international law!!! Hamas, for the past eight consecutive years and on a daily basis targeted with rockets and mortar shells the working class towns of S'derot, Ofaqim, Ashqelon and Netivot and the collective and cooperative farming communities of Israel's northwestern Negev, hoping and succeeding in hitting kindergartens, schools, universities, houses of worship, shopping areas, manufacturing entities as well as chicken coops and cow sheds. The intent of course has been to kill, injure and terrorize the civilian population of Israel: man woman, child and the elderly. This is a violation of international law!!! And finally, after years of holding itself back, Israel, having warned Hamas time and again to cease its fire, set out on Cast Lead operation in which only Hamas military and governmental targets were the aim. Hamas, in its attempt to defend itself and its armed forces, fired its rockets and mortar shells from hospital facilities, school facilities, hotels, and people's homes. Hamas, in other words, used the civilian population as human shields. And when the civilian population heeded Israel's warnings wanted to flee, Hamas operatives held them physically so as to protect the fighters from being hit by Israel. This is a violation of international law!!! I wish to read/hear condemnations of these violations by those eager, at any opportunity possible, to sling mud at Israel, demonize and de-legitimize it. And since I/we don't see such condemnation being forthcoming and only seeing Israel, the nation-state of the Jewish people, being singled out obsessively for the venom being spewed, I can't help but detecting racism here, anti-Jewish racism at that. I only wonder, to what end…?
109. again? old news
Miriam ,   Canada   (02.02.09)
this 'news' has been hashed to death last week- why is there another article now? All this bloodthirsty talk about 'going after the judge' is stupid. Instead of finding out details about the accusation and precedure, almost all the writers here are writing emotional and totally irrational comments about the Inquisition etc. etc.... . Use your energy for some united action. Support your government instead if stabbing it in the back. Democracy does not work well in Israel- yet.
110. the reason
Ameer ,   Jordan   (02.02.09)
why is there a hole in the ozone layer ? antisemitic people did it why are fuel prices so high? antisemitic people did it why is britney spears depressed? antisemitic people did it who fired hurricane Katrina? antisemitic people did it Enough with this antisemitism propaganda to make people feel sorry for u
111. Some things look so ridiculous...
Federico ,   Argentina   (02.02.09)
I can believe like countries like spain....or even here in this forum....people from germany....dare to issue an opinion on this matter...please...look to your past....
112. look to our past?
Kordula ,   Germany   (02.02.09)
How dare you speak of our past. We are a proud nation. If your leaders did nothing illegal, why are you so scared to go to court.
113. completely normal
Juan ,   Barcelona   (02.02.09)
this is a completely regular tiral, against someone who's accused of doing crimes. If you all know that the guy is innocent, why are you panicing and calling my country racist expressions.I think you are racist yourself
114. ridiculous discussion
Miriam ,   Canada   (02.02.09)
if we discount ALL the American comments about other countries' alleged war crimes... USA isn't exactly 'clean', isn't it? Native Americans, supporting wrong parties in Central America, bombing the shit out of Bosnia etc. Irak, etc- the list goes on. SouthAmerica: crimes against the Indians , rich landowners- poorest peasants, accepting Nazis and sheltering them. Brits: Colonial conquests... etc. etc.... who is left here? Israel has a right to exist, to defend itself- however it is not above the law either unless it considers itself a rogue nation.... The court case is not against the Jews- it is against high level officers, who happen to be Israelis. The arguments brought up in this TB would be thrown out in any court. Whining and name calling is not acceptable in a court- you need PROOF! get it! Show it!
115. Scared jaja?
Federico ,   Argentina   (02.02.09)
Do you think I am scared of that....come on...an insignificant and inmoral country like spain...or a vicious racist country like germany trying to judge Israel? jaja...thats something really funny
116. to 114
Harry ,   Manchester   (02.02.09)
"Brits: Colonial conquests" You exist because of this conquest. You owe Britain a lot, so stop accusing the country that lent a helping hand to your people against others
117. Spaniards should start by sweeping their own doorstep
Alter   (02.02.09)
118. What is so special about Israel?
Patrick ,   Montreal Canada   (02.02.09)
War crimes are war crimes. If the war criminals are Israeli, it will be harder to bring them to justice. That makes it even more important that the war criminals of 2008-2009 join the war criminals of 2006.
119. to all those who complain about israel
(02.02.09)
shahade was a criminal, a terrorist and a person who should have been accused of war crimes a very long time ago. israel, knowing he will never be brought to trial by any of you decided to act on its own for the security of its citizens. the present case in spain is yes, anti israel and antisemetic to boot! and this is why... where was spain when shehade murdered close to 1000 innocent israeli civilians without any military target in mind? did spain bring a case against this man for violation of international law and crimes against humanity? NO! no one even paid attention and he had carte blanche to continue killing until israel stopped him. did any international court request him and his cronies to appear in a trial or did any of you even borhtered to bring him to justice???? now, when israel finally responded in its security interests, all of you scum are waking up demanding justice??? where did you all show indignation and call for justice against murdered israelis in movie theaters, pizza parlors, restaurants and caffes, killing thousands of israelis for no reason apart from them being jews. where was your justice then????? who amongst you demanded that the terrorists pay up in international or spanish courts for the murder of these jews???? did we hear from you then? NO! how come? is jewish blood less important that shehade's blood and his family? were the israelis murdered by him less innocent than shehade's family and the people surrounding him? no! when shehade bombed our pizzas nightclubs and restaurants, do you think he was not killing innocents? and these people were not even military targets, to say the least. it was murder and 100% crime against humanity on shehade's part. did all of you b ring him to court in spain for murdering thousands of israelis with no military target in mind? NO! HOW COME? WHY WERE YOU NOT INDIGNANT THEN WHEN INNOCENT JEWS DIED BUT YOU ARE INDIGNANT NOW WHEN PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS DIE? EXPLAIN! your indignation is antisemitism itself. it has nothing to do with fairness and abhoring war crimes. if you were honest you all would have screamed when jewish people in israel died because of terror and you all would have screamed for trial for the hamas or shehade. BUT YOU DIDN'T! this is why your actions, your indignant screams and your fake concern for shehade and his innocent people are A MASK FOR YOUR UNCARING FOR JEWS, FOR YOUR HATE FOR JEWS AND FOR ISRAEL. this is why you seem unfair and motivated by your insidious anti jew feelings than by wanting justice. justice is for everyone, not just for arabs who continue to murder jews with impunity.
120. i would love to see
(02.02.09)
one single country in the world bringing a law suit for war crimes and crimes against humanity to the hamas leaders and their gangs....just once! then maybe the israelis would not call you all anti semites to thew 100th degree. justice should be spread evenly amongst all parties. 8,000 missiles thrown towards innocent israeli citizens in 6 long years and killing one thousand israelis is this long time is a crime against humanity, is a war crime just as much as the so called "war crime" by israel in assassinating shehade and the innocent amongst him. if you try israel, you must try shehade and hamas for similar crimes against innocent israelis. if you do not demand the same for israel, yes, you are anti semetic and anti israel and you are not just and just masking your antisemitism with fake indignation and concern for the palestinians.
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