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'Ethiopian tenants? Out of the question'
Shmulik Hadad
Published: 13.02.09, 09:06
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61. message to Terry in Eilat
Moises ,   Lisbon, Portugal   (02.13.09)
"Every other immigrant group eventually assimilated & so will Ethiopians. " And how many of these "other" groups in Israel were Black? If black jews are treated this way image non black jews. We are dealing with the old and ugly European mentality. It makes sense, White people have hijacked judaism and Israel is heading to some very ugly racial confrontations in the future.
62. message to terry part 2
Moises ,   Lisbon, Portugal   (02.13.09)
Terry, have you heard of the baby's dipers?...one never knows what it's gonna come out of it. wasn't defending discrimination - I'm just saying that getting all hysterical about various incidents is, well, an hysterical reaction. "" the humiliation of racial discrimination is no joke and the reactions here are not hysterical at all. Some people just refuse to be "nice" about it. "there is a definite campaign to paint Israel as a racist society - it comes from the Arabs" No Terry, it's not! Modern jews are descendents of Europens...They already have brought those feelings of racial superiority with them. Stop blaming Arabs for white Israeli Racism!
63. 50# It happens everywhere
Daniel ,   Israel   (02.13.09)
Muslim against Jews, Jews against Jews, Christians against Muslims, Muslim against Christians, Black against White and on and on.. So don't throw it on Israel as if we're the only players. And NO I didn't justify this case at all, he could have cancelled the deal for other reosons and keep his rascism to itself. First it's a private property he can sell it to whoever HE chooses, so don't blame the etire population, please. People are waiting for the other to do a mistake/crime so that they could cover their asses and say 'They are doing it!! Look at them!!" Like happend in the last war... Unfotunately it worked very well.
64. Ethiopians and Russians
kad ,   USA   (02.13.09)
I'm a Black Man who really like Israel and Israelis.I hope this is just a russian Phenomen and not some product of the Israeli society.I have white Israeli friends who are very nice. I know not all people are so and I hope that the Israeli government will fight this form of Descrimination.I do'nt want to believ that descrimination exist in Israel . Jews of all people on this plante should know how it feels.....
65. #48 English Guy. Do you read English?
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (02.13.09)
Suggest you read again my commments. I don't think there was any expression of xenophobia in any way, shape, or form. I am, indeed, a critic of Islam the ideology & I think that criticism is entirely justified & supported by quite a bit of evidence. I have never, ever, expressed a dislike of Ethiopians - I judge people as individuals & my limited experience with Ethiopians has left me with a generally favourable impression. I also have quite a few Russian friends. Much of what you are ranting about is more a figment of your imagination rather than what I've been saying. Suggest you take a reading comprehension course with all due haste.
66. Jews are Jews
lw ,   London   (02.13.09)
on top of all the disunity we have in Judaism, we now have white Jews racist against black Jews?! it's disgusting, and after everything we've been through, all the discrimination because of our religion, those people should know better. Jews are Jews and if we can't agree on the level of our observance, at least let's not let skin colour or nationality get in the way
67. when it comes to houses its racism?
Asaf Golan ,   Sugar Land   (02.13.09)
When Ethiopians drop property value (I have no idea why) its called racism but when they drop out of school and make trouble its a "social problem." The Ethiopians are going through what the Moroccans went through in the 1950's. They have a choice and it is entirely up to them. Either they shape up and "sell out." or they misbehave and earn "bad names." Its not an easy choice but its one the Sfaradim, Teimanim, even shkenoyzm had to make in the last 110 years. Its called life. And in the 1990's Ethiopians were as popular as falafel. So its not like they were hated from the beginning.
68. #48 English guy... stay home in UK
Sandi ,   Israel/US   (02.13.09)
69. Ethiopian tenents
moshe ,   Long Island   (02.13.09)
How about US where no houses in some areas "can" be sold to blacks? Tel aviv apartments can not be rent to Arabs? But no....Its all russian mumzeriuks, shikers and whores.....so much to not be a rasists...Bigoty and genuine hate. Sorry to read.
70. To all that blame the Russians
Yossel ,   USA   (02.13.09)
I am of Russian descent and moved to Israel in 1973 as a child. While you can blame the Russians for this particular incident, my family was forced to move out of Israel because of discrimination by the Israelis in general. My (widowed) mother could not get a steady job, was sexually harrassed, and constantly discriminated against. Yes, we were Jews in the Soviet Union and it was difficult but we were Russians in Israel and that is much more painful coming from your own people. Stop all racism against Jewish people. We are all children of Jacob.
71. Russians in Canada
E   (02.13.09)
While I have many very good Russian friends in my neighborhood, there are some with residual resentment for having left the Soviet Union and a few have learnt to abuse the system. For example, a “disabled” Russian “immigrant” is given subsidized housing near me and has her Russian friend collect her welfare for her while she continues to live in Russia most of the year. When she is in Canada, she spends her days pining for the superior Russian culture while doing under-the-table translation jobs. When my wife and I convert and move to Israel, I think we will buy in the Ethiopian areas to take advantage of the reduced prices!
72. 57 Kev: Amen.
(02.13.09)
73. #64 Kad
Moshe ,   Israel   (02.13.09)
We love you too man, but please stay in the U.S, we have enough problems to sort out as is now.
74. #62 Moises
Mark Wilson ,   USA   (02.13.09)
Excellent response to a bigot. Thanx.
75. #56 Arie
Uri   (02.13.09)
Arie what a racist bigot you are. The issue is not give them a place far away to stay. The real issue is whether you want Ethiopians as your neighbors?
76. #35 English g*y
Keren ,   Israel -SP   (02.13.09)
"You have an extremely tiny bigotted brain and a very large mouth. A bit topsy turvy. " Are you talking about me or about your self? Be aware with Projection;it can easily denounce one´s own selves.
77. wow
jerusalem   (02.13.09)
78. #56 and funds
English guy ,   London   (02.13.09)
You don't really need to worry about "those seeking to destroy us" - because your rancid ideology and utter disregard for equality and your most foul racist agenda will both destroy you before any external factors.
79. #73 Moshe
English guy ,   London   (02.13.09)
So you hate black people so much you advise Kad #64 to stay in the US. Wow! You don't even want a black tourist! Feel proud.
80. NO LAW AGAINST THIS? SHOCKING
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (02.13.09)
In the US this would not be allowed. If authorities found out the people would be charged with discrimination. The owner of my apartment building lost a court case over discrimination against Blacks. I don't know the details of what happened, because we do have blacks living here, but the case might have been from the past. The owner is now extremely careful not to give any impression of discrimination.
81. As if Israel doesn't have enough troubles...
Kev ,   London   (02.13.09)
82. #19 If any of those Russians are Jewish anyway, that is....
Yaakov Noach ,   New York, USA   (02.13.09)
Everyone knows that a huge percentage of the Russians are non-Jews
83. Kev #40 & Guy Who is Living in England
The 11th Man ,   UK   (02.13.09)
Tragically, Kev, you are right. We all wish it were not so, but YOU ARE RIGHT. And, not surprisingly, The 'Guy Who is Living in England', sounds as though he has a bitter and vicious spirit. Now isn't that strange? I would have thought that it would have been the other way around. It's a funny old world.
84. #79 English guy.
Moshe ,   Israel   (02.13.09)
This issue with Kad is not about racism. Its just that we shouldnt be mixing apples and oranges at a time when we cant even sort out the peaches. Its best if he doesnt come to Israel for now. You know what I mean Englishman?
85. Race Discrimination in Israel
Stan R ,   Washington DC/USA   (02.13.09)
I had heard that there was race discrimination in Israel, but I didn't want to believe it. This article has plastered the problem, in big letters, right in front of me. As an American Jew who worked for twenty years to fight discrimination in the workplace, I am ashamed to learn that Israelis are engaging in the same despicable behavior. Sure, there is a tendency in every society to be curious, even uncomfortable with outsiders who all of a sudden become our neighbors, especially when those newcomers are from such a radically different background and who have yet to become familiarized with the modern technology and living habits of Western society. But the moral of the story is that we should help them, not reject them. We are taught in the Torah to welcome the stranger. Every Israeli is a stranger, if you go back a generation or two. And those insiders need to take a good look at themselves, and do the right thing by helping, not rejecting the Ethiopian Jews. The new government, whether it be under Netanyahu or Livni, should take a hard look at American anti-discrimination laws, and rewrite them to fit the needs of Israeli society.
86. #79 English guy
Moshe ,   Israel   (02.13.09)
Dont put words in my mouth. I never said that I hate black people. All I said was its better for Kad to stay in the U.S. Israel is not known to be as a melting pot for different races. The U.S has that honor. Kad would be much happier in the U.S, and God knows he deserves to be happy with his kind.
87. Racism is a HUGE problem in RUSSIA
Noach ,   FL   (02.13.09)
Racism is such a huge problem in Russia that noone even speaks about it!! The Russian immigrants brought their personal problems to Israel. This does not reflect ISRAELI society, it reflects RUSSIAN society. Once both these groups become Israelis, then we'll talk.
88. Politically Incorrect
Hannah   (02.13.09)
No you're not, you're just another Rascist making excuses for yourself. I came from New Zealand, where I lived in an upmarket street next to a state house with a Maori family. Who were great neighbours and their house did not affect my street or my values. The things many Israelis say about Ethiopians or anyone not 'White' is just rascist, no excuses. Unless you actively change your views and actively accept people of different colour as a minimum, these people will never have a chance to assimilate and you will ghetto-ise them.If they fight back and cause trouble, it's 100% your fault. They may be black on the outside but you are black on the inside
89. Time for a change
Raoul ,   NY   (02.13.09)
Funny how a law to stop smoking in public got through each reading very fast, yet a law to just simply outlaw rascism like this is still waiting to appear and when it does it will be roadblocked. A Jew is a Jew is a Jew. Black, yellow, brown, freckled. People respond to your treatment of them, not by their colour. You who support this exclusion should all be ashamed.
90. #3, Wrong, in the US there are many neighborhoods
Jake   (02.13.09)
which until VERY recently would not allow Jews to buy a house. Same goes for country clubs. There were also quotas at Ivy League Universities limiting the number of Jews. Now they have other types of quotas which I believe are just as racist.
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