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Olmert: No peace without dividing Jerusalem
Roni Sofer
Published: 06.03.09, 19:48
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61. To: Rami at No. 39
Sarah ,   New York City, USA   (03.06.09)
You think that gifting East Jerusalem to the Arabs will bring peace? What, the same kind of peace as was brought when Israel gifted Gaza to the Palestinians? The better solution would be for the Palestinians to be evicted from East Jerusalem -- where they seem to enjoy living in filth and squalor, tear down those eyesores that pass for homes, and beautify Jerusalem.
62. definition of insanity
mike ,   nyc   (03.06.09)
doing the same thing over and over in hopes of a different outcome. ie, giving away land and property in hopes, HOPES of peace and quiet. the reality is that the exact opposite has happened every time israel makes concessions. Olmert should go down to Gaza to see the fruits of his pathetic and sham ideology.
63. No Peace without dividing Jerusalem
Basim ,   Chicago, Ill, USA   (03.06.09)
Finally Olmert is right, no peace without dividing Jerusalem. Most of West Jerusalem areas used to be own by Paletinians before 1948. So if the Israelie wants peace they should listen to Olmert ,Barak, Peres and Rabin. The Palestanian are willing to accept 22% of Palestine as a Palestanian State.
64. The donkey speaks
Marcel ,   Florida   (03.06.09)
How is it that the scum of Israel rises to the top of power ? And why is this criminal still allowed to speak on issues that he is not in a position to address ? Israel it is time to return to Hashem and for these kapos of the goyim to be charged with treaon and arrested and imprisoned. There is no peace to be had with Islam ,they want israel gone and this is what the evil UNJews like Olmeret,Livni,Peres,Barak ect refuse to see.
65. Divide Jerusalem?
Chance ,   Mesa, AZ   (03.06.09)
What a crock! I thought we knew what happens when you combine hot oil with water? On the contrary Mr olmert, dividing Jerusalem will be the worst thing you could do.
66. He destroys even MORE on the eve of his own destruction
Dr. Dave ,   NYC   (03.06.09)
What an absolute traitor along with Livni & Barak.
67. Who will Olmert make peace with?
Sidney   (03.06.09)
Abbas who has as much power as my dog? Or Hamas which will not compromise on its goal to destroy Israel?
68. Olmert is wrong
Brod ,   USA   (03.06.09)
This is the worst statement that an Israeli leader makes. What makes Olmert sing the theme song of Islamist-Jihadists? Does he think that the words of Islamist-Jihadists are biblical truth? The opposite is true. There will be NO peace if the Islamist-Jihadists get a piece of Jerusalem. Has Olmert forgotten the GOD of Israel? So-called Jews who do not know the GOD of Israel are not really Jews. They are a danger to Israel as Israel's enemies.
69. If you don't trust in Elohim that will never happen.
#57   (03.06.09)
70. the zombie prime minister
david ,   new york   (03.06.09)
his own party kicked this guy out, his party lost big and netanyahu is starting as prime minister, he's being indicted and about to be carted off to jail, not only does everyone hate him, but worse, no one actually listens to him. i pay more attention to what sharon has been muttering lately to what comes out of this dead man's mouth.
71. #30 Tayfun: Your proposal SUCKS.
usa   (03.06.09)
Mecca is for Muslims; Jerusalem is for Jews. No Jews or Christians allowed to worship in Mecca (not that they would want to,) so why should Muslims be allowed to guard the cite most holy to Jews?
72. never
roy ,   california   (03.06.09)
It is a great honor to set foot in God's Promised Land. Never give up Jerusalem. Whoever dosen't love the Jews and Israel should leave especially those with no respect for human life or the God of Israel. God has blessed the Arab nations with so much wealth and land yet they want to destroy there brothers who just want a peaceful existance. I pray for the saftey of Israel and the Jewish nation. I hope that the people that hate the Jews (and Christians) see that all have the same color blood and have a God given right to exist.
73. Olmert
shakshuka ,   TA   (03.06.09)
I thought you negotiate first and get an agrrement later.Somebody should have told this to the pm .
74. #63. Read number 41 and....
Lior ,   Israel   (03.06.09)
stop the untrue 'revised' history you are subscribing to. Furthermore, if you knew anything more than what you are being fed saying the Palestinians are willing this and willing that is complete and utter BS!!! Selective amnesia coupled with selective revised history will come back to haunt you one day. As for Olmert ,Barak, Peres and Rabin echoing the same sentiments arrives from the Jewish thinking of giving to those who hate us will cause them to love us. HOWEVER, even (please will you love me) Peres recently stated leaving GAZA WAS A HUGE MISTAKE. (of course you would not have been fed that information, would you?) And btw: Rabin was completely against dividing Jerusalem the eternal capital of Israel not mentioned NOT ONE TIME IN THE HOLY KORAN.
75. Consistant
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (03.06.09)
Wrong, but consistant. Seems that chair in the PM's also takes away one's spine with it. Until 1948 70% of Eastern Jerusalem was Jewish, time to return the owners to their property. Rabin never supported an Arab state, nor did he EVER advocate the surrender of Jerusalem. Olmert is going to need those cash envelopes just to pay for his lawyers real soon.
76. Olmert, why don't you apply for CITIZENSHIP in Saudi Arabia?
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (03.06.09)
Olmert, you are expansionist global Islam's most valuable ally and propagandist. YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO THE HUMAN RACE In accordance with the Koran, PA/PLO broke Oslo-Road Map and every Peace agreement as anticipated by the US/EU. In Islam, agreements are made to be broken when Muslims become strong enough to subjugate/destroy hated infidels. DECEITFULLY CALLED Arab/Israeli Conflict, It's GLOBAL JIHAD Against Israel & the Free World US/EU are fully aware that all PA maps show the new state of "Palestine" covering ALL of Israel. Global Islam's conquest goal, shouted out and on banners in Muslim demonstrations in the West is: "Palestine From the River to the Sea". US/EU/UN ruthless ideology that demands the vicious religious cleansing of innocents for not being Muslim MUST stop! Every concession, every Jewish Land surrender results in vastly increased Islamic terror! The murderous peace process: LAND For WAR! Demanding a Muslim terror state reducing tiny Israel at mid-section to 9 miles wide INDEFENSIBLE, Auschwitz borders is wickedly seeking a Second Holocaust! STOP THE PLANNED SECOND HOLOCAUST! NO More Land for War!
77. All STOLEN Jewish Land & Property must be Returned!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (03.06.09)
The inalienable rights of Jews to the Biblical heartland must not be violated! No one is demanding Muslims surrender THEIR top religious areas of Mecca and Medina! In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza, ethnically cleansing all Jews and in 1948, Jordan invaded Judea, Samaria and east Jerusalem, ethnically cleansing all Jews. In violent opposition to G-D, Muslim Jordan destroyed 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. The jihad is against the Holy One. When Israel won the Arab war of aggression in 1967, Jews returned to the areas of their ancestral homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Anti-Israel propaganda DECEITFULLY calls Jews' legitimate return "occupation". Jews have had a continuous presence in physical and spiritual homeland Israel for 4000 years. Jewish ownership of the land, homes and buildings stolen from the Jews in the 1948 Islamic invasion must be restored!
78. you can say the same about right of return
Golan ,   SL   (03.06.09)
first of all there is no peace. So stop with the nonsense. All relationships exist between harmony and total war. Jerusalem is not Silwan but the temple mount. And the Muslims claim the western wall... And their positions have not changed, they want all of it, the right of return, and a bi-national Israel. Sometimes you have to say no to a bad deal. Period.
79. Olmert's plan summons total war
Dan ,   Titusville, FL USA   (03.06.09)
Once there is a Palestinian State and there is even one rocket launched and lands in Israel that is WAR and a full retaliatory strike destroying all of the new state will be legal and in order. At that point Israel will have acquired title to Gaza and the West Bank legally. Olmert has never been a strong leader. He is weak and believes in appeasement. He unilatterally gave up Gaza and we were repaid with thousands of rockets. The Muslim terrorists got the message that terror and violence works. Now Olmert wants to give up Jerusalem and surrender sovereign Israel territory and Israeli heritage paid for in prescious blood to terrorists whose only goal is the destruction of Israel. They have no romantic dreams of a two state solution. They only have dreams of dead Jews. Bibi needs to move faster to get Olmert out of office faster.
80. it's a recipe for eternal wars
Chaim ,   Canada   (03.06.09)
By giving up any part of Jerusalem Israel signals it does not realy belong in the middle east. The Arabs, who never had Jerusalem as a capital of anything, will be encouraged to keep fighting until all the Jews are out.
81. Jerusalem is not for sale, point final
AlbertoGA ,   St. George, USA   (03.06.09)
This Olmert can not resist to open his mouth. Result Garbage. Not only he should go, but close his fat mouth permanently. Jerusalem is not for SALE
82. To: Basim at No. 63
Sarah ,   New York City, USA   (03.06.09)
Sounds like a threat of continued violence, to me. Maybe Israel should get rid of all the Palestinians -- send them to any one of the 22 Arab states. Should have taken the deal in 1947. Shouldn't have lost all those wars that Arabs started. Shouldn't have brought terror, missiles and suicide bombing on an unparalleled scale. Should have taken the deal offered at Oslo. And -- having missed absolutely every opportunity, and made catastrophic decisions for sixty years, you want to displace the people that made Israel what it is today. Max nix, Basim. No one is going to put the toothpaste back in the tube. And if you threaten continuing violence, then deportation will most assuredly be on the table. Be careful what you wish for.
83. to Moshe ,telaviv-YOUR PATHETIC #36 RESPONSE SHOW YOU ARE AN
GET REAL ,   USA   (03.06.09)
ignorant cowardly self hating Jew who lives in tel aviv which is the capital of the communistic radical left!
84. For what reason to split J'lem, just because Arabs want it?
William ,   Israel   (03.06.09)
Who gives a rat's *ss what the Arabs demand. It doesn't mean they deserve it. Certainly, erring on the side of justice and legality of ownership, their claim to Jerusalem is even more weak. Until the "Pals" were created as a people in the mind of Arafat in the early 60's, there was no demand for Jerusalem as a capital, just death to Jews. Prior to the Jewish renaissance of the region, Arabs kept Jerusalem in disrepair, and in 1948-67 the Arabs made a concerted effort to destroy anything Jewish, even using tombstones as latrines. Arabs arrived only in 642AD and after killing many. Jews have always been in the region and city. Just because they live there now does not make it their's any more than their claim of ownership on land they only rented after the Turkish owner took off. To be more of a skeptic, look at the history of Islam. They find the place that means the most to the group they are conquering, they destroy its identity, they place a mosque on it and claim some sheik lived there before, and slowly destroy all history of the previous group. If you think they aren't doing this with E. J'lem, the edge of which is right over the Temple Mount and the Western Wall, you are either naive or crazy.
85. #4 - Chris - why do you think there was an Arab majority?
William ,   Israel   (03.06.09)
In 1948, there were many Jews living in all parts of Jerusalem. In the 1920s, many lost their homes due to Arab riots and random killing of innocent Jews. They ran and Arabs took over their homes. Again, in 1948 when Arabs created a siege on Jews in the city, they kicked Jews out at the cease-fire agreements and Arabs quickly took over their property (stolen is a better word). Only in 1967, did Jews get back their rightful property - the Jewish Quarter, the Western Wall, but lost other parts due to the Arab majority. On your logic, if Warsaw were to have a majority of Turks or Gypsies due to immigration over years, it is their right to demand the city give them that land as their own autonomous region. Are you willing to set precedent in your own backyard?
86. Olmert is just placating his ultra-leftist wife and daughter
William ,   Israel   (03.06.09)
He remains sleeping on the couch due to his involvement in the Gaza War and needs to promise to divide the State up and give welfare to Palestinians in order to win the love of his black-hearted uber-liberal wife and daughter back. Personally, I wouldn't mind giving HIS home and land to the Palestinians and help the Olmerts vacate Israel for a nice tract of traitor land in France.
87. "REMEMBER WHAT AMALEK DID UNTO THEE" --Deut. XXV 17-19
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88. JERUSALEM.
Orao Stranka. ,   Tsarigrad u Srbia.   (03.06.09)
Olmert: No peace without dividing Jerusalem THERE WILL BE NO PEACE EVEN IF DIVIDING. THIS WILL ONLY INVITE THE KING OF THE NORTH(DAN.CHAP.11), AL-MAHDI/LUCIFER, TO JERUSALEM. HE WILL KILL ALL JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WHO DO NOT SUBMIT TO HIM. The prime minister added that "we must not deceive ourselves; this move is inevitable," noting that "Ehud Barak almost understood it in Camp David in 2000." THIS IS FORETOLD IN THE WORD OF GOD, BUT IT IS NOT HIS COMMAND. 'Shalit rallies unhelpful' YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SINCE YOU HAVE HAD YEARS OF TIME OF ACTION TO ACCOMPLISH HIS RELEASE. YOUR VIEW IS NOT THAT OF THE WORD OF GOD. THAT IS ONE OF A JERK. Orao.
89. Olmert -- Please move to Mecca!!!
Hinda ,   SF Bay Area   (03.06.09)
Why is he still opening his traitorous trap? Why isn't he being a zionist for Mecca since he loves his "Muslim terrorist Brothers" who have not done anything in the name of peace but in the name of PIECES for years. OUTLAW the KADIMAH party!! To Ramallah and other illegal invaders -- why are you enjoying the freedom of living in Israel? Would you be treated fairly in Jordan (where you are probably from) or in Syria, Qatar? Why do Gulf Arabs HATE YOUR PEOPLE?
90. #30 - Tayfun - Why anti-zionists only?
William ,   Israel   (03.06.09)
What purpose does that serve except to exact more concessions from by Muslim usurpers? While the idea of group rule is a nice thought, Muslims have never kept their word in past agreements in history and always worked to overtake the other parties - by force or attrition. Zionists demand one thing - a true homeland for Jews, which means Israel will remain a Jewish state. For us, there is NO discussion. However, I would add this - any Muslim or Arab on the council must sign a non-billergence agreement denouncing ALL forms of subjugation and lack of equality as outlined so often in the Koran. No support for terror suspects and any Arab that is shown to be connected, even indirectly, will lose representation immediately. That is so much more fair when adding 1400 years of Arab hegemony to the equation.
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