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Obama pledges new honesty in relations with Israel
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Published: 02.06.09, 07:51
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31. DANGEROUS RELIANCE
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (06.02.09)
It is normal in diplomatic relations that each side pursues its own interests. The problem all along has been the almost childish over reliance of Israel on the USA. History has proven over and over again that alliances change with change of interest or with change of leaders. Looking at Obama's background and his circle of partners, one did not need a crystal ball, to see what was coming. Be rest assured this leader who is in the same line as Egypt’s Pharaoh and 1492's Queen Isabella, has some pleasant surprises for us waiting, when he does not get his way. So it is time for someone to stand up and make clear to our modern day Pharaoh, that our internal affairs are not his business and that he can make pacts with the devil as much as he wants. Better to know ones enemy, then a pretend to be friend. In many ways we did need a wake up call and start acting like a sovereign nation, that only exists by the grace of Hashem. One can have very strong doubts that Bibi is the right man for the job right now.
32. B. Hussein, tell Arbs their "Status quo is unsustainable"
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (06.02.09)
Egypt, F. Arbia, Lebanon, Jordan and the Gulf States have willingly accepted American weaponry and protection, yet they continue to promote anti-Americanism through their governments' policies and their state-controlled media. Iran, meanwhile, uses anti-Americanism to develop its own nuclear weapons program and pushes for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from the Persian Gulf to draw attention away from its own failings and human rights abuses and to exert regional hegemony under a nuclear shield in the name of Islam. For the Arb world, the status quo is no longer sustainable and time is not on its side. The Salafi jihadists are gaining strength in Egypt, Syria, F. Arbia, Algeria, Sudan, Turkey, Yemen, Bahrain, Pakistan, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon and among the Fakestinians and warn that an apocalyptic Armageddon between the Muslim world and the West is approaching. Whether moderate Muslim intellectuals and Western-educated Muslim technocrats will be able to bring on an Islamic Renaissance before rising radical Islam draws them all into an unwinnable nuclear confrontation remains to be seen. Their success in doing so is by no means assured.
33. In the Muslim Narrative, History Only Begins in 622 C
e.m Jordan is Palse ,   s,f   (06.02.09)
To call Israel a colonialist state is to undermine Israel's legitimacy as the state of the Jewish people who see themselves as the owners of this country. It means a total denial of Jewish history, and echoes the Islamic approach to Jewish history. According to this approach, since Islam came to the world in the year 622 CE with the hijra of Mohammed from Mecca to Medina, all of history before that time lost any meaning or significance. Even the prophets - Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Jesus - all became Muslims, according to the Islamic narrative. So since Islam denies what happened before Islam, they can say that Israel is an outcome of a colonialist action because the fact that Jews were here 1900 years ago, before Islam, has no meaning anymore since that was before Islam came into the world. This leads us back to the way Islam as a religion looks at the State of Israel and its existence in this waqf land. The document of the Arabs in Israel, which we mentioned before, is replete with expressions of how Israel is an illegitimate entity and how the Arabs are the natives. This is the way they look at the state where they live. What other states have to contend with the fact that a significant minority is challenging the very legitimacy of the state? Even Arabs and Muslims in Britain or France are not yet challenging the legitimacy of those states, but here, in Israel, they feel free to do it, Dose the President Obama is one of those Muslim narrative too? I have no doubt if he has learned the history from Trinity Church.
34. Mr., President learn history then talk about honesty
e.m Jordan is Palse ,   s.f   (06.02.09)
Mr. President my advice to you is before opening your mouth it is better to read the history then give your idea, I mean the true history and not the history that you have learned from Jeremiah Wright in that trinity Church, we knows you very well and we will not let you to sacrifice State of Israel for your desires.
35.  O so Honest
Perfid ,   USA   (06.02.09)
BBC America tv news showed some of tis interview on tv. Immediately after was an interview with Hzbollah person in Lebanon who said its political and military parts are one united in the destruction of Israel. That "honest friendship" works both ways Mr President. He will throw Israel to destruction to help US depart Iraq. What borders of Israel B O ? He turns his face as Iran , No Korea Pakistan build nuclear bombs
36. THE CURRENT SITUATION IS BAD BECAUSE ARAB TERROR MORON !
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37. Honesty or stating the obvious?
Israel   (06.02.09)
Barak has to think how to change the Arab mentality and lmake them understand and accept that we are not going anywhere. How can he expect us to have peace with people that will kill an Israeli at any given opportunity. Peace treaty or not.
38. Obama, I am already fed up with you although
Vardina   (06.02.09)
you have hardly started your term.
39. You Want Jerusalem for the ARABS
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is that how to be honest.? You are missing it and look well, North Korea is telling you how to be honest.
40. During your campaign for presidency
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you concealed the dishonesty
41. Obama, listen to this
Nora ,   Tel Aviv   (06.02.09)
When a man like you is in big trouble and does not see how to get rid of those bandits (Economy, Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan) that trouble the world...he KICKS THE CAT (Israel).
42. you want honesty, Mr. President?
israeli ,   israel   (06.02.09)
You don't know zilch! And that's putting it mildly.
43. To Mr. B. H. Obama
Gershon ,   Kfar Saba   (06.02.09)
You would do well to remember that the phrase "honest politician" is an oxymoron.
44. The honest truth
Gila ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.02.09)
is that it is Hashem who runs the world and not the United States. As the Creator of absolutely everything, I think Hashem has rather more power than the president. And He has given the Jewish people certain promises about our survival as a nation and our right to live in the whole land of Israel.
45. America is over with and Israel is on it's own
Yitzi ,   Bet Shemesh, Israel   (06.02.09)
Face it people, times have changed. Israel must be for Israel and the Jewish people. No one else is. The Israeli love affair with America as the big brother protector must die. America is not Israel's friend, Israel is to be sacrificed for America's interests with other nations.
46. its not fair Ynet
Dee ,   haifa   (06.02.09)
you are picking the talkbacks which are against obama , while all the talkbacks that support his policys are being deleated ... be fair and show some of the other talkbacks ...
47. You Want Honesty?
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (06.02.09)
Then the honest truth is that Israel is only doing what it needs to do to defend itself from Arab agression and terrorism. We need the land for expansion and growth. We need the land for its resources. We need the land to keep hostile Arab states at a safe distance. We need the land to settle another 6 million Jews in the next few decades and millions more soon thereafter. And the honest truth is that we are not the obstacles to peace and we are not the obstinate ones. We are merely Jews who want to live in our G-d-given homeland.
48. We waited for 45 years
SMelmoth   (06.02.09)
for a black president. I got up early to watch his acceptance speech, and had tears running down my face. I should have stayed in bed. We thought he would be a combination of FDR and JFK. The greater your expectations, the greater your disappointment. He is just another mediocre political hack, not even good for America, and certainly not good for Israel or the world. Can he find Israel on the map without his advisers? You wonder. Who the f--- does he think he is to tell us what to do or not do?
49. to #46 yes and so many of them wonder y.
ghostq   (06.02.09)
50. Don't retreat into dead-end emotionalism, Yitzi
Cameron ,   USA   (06.02.09)
You're simply going to have to batten down the hatches the next several years until we run Obama & his progressive wankers off. Fear not, reality always winds up doing a no. on these populist types. Every time, they overreach themselves, and they tumble.
51. Obama and Israel
MC ,   UK   (06.02.09)
This man talks a load of unadulterated nonesense and is no friend of Israel. Under no circumstances must Bibi make concessions to his outrageous demands on Israel. We have no choice but to stand up and behave like a sovereign nation or we will loose our sovereignty. Whenever the government looks as though it's caving in, the people must stand up and say NO NO NO We are meant to be a democracy we can't forget that. Our government must not be allowed to sell us out.
52. What about honesty with the Palestinians?
JPS ,   Efrat   (06.02.09)
This is just too one-sidedly bizarre to be believed. Just what does Obama have in mind with the Palestinians? Is he going to be "honest" with them, or is somebody other than Israel going to be "honest" with Obama about the Palestinians? Somebody please explain to YNET readers how a peace deal can be forged with Fatah controlling the west bank and Hamas controlling Gaza and wanting to overthrow Fatah in the west bank. Sure, the status quo is unsustainable, but Israel is only 1/2 of the formula. What does Obama have in mind for the Palestinian conundrum? Will he demand that Hamas acknowledge the fact that the 'current direction in the region is profoundly negative'??? Or is Obama being fed more Palestinian propaganda and is oblivious to reality? For an educated guy, Obama is starting to sound distinctly narrow in his thinking.
53. Mindless Liberal American Demomanic Lemmings
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (06.02.09)
I told you! You wouln't listen then You're not listening still, Perhaps you never will.
54. No need to get our panties into a knot
  (06.02.09)
Very soon HBO wil face the real truth in the ME and will make a laughing stock out of himself and America. It is silly of us to make such a fuss, instead of letting him get stuck with his utopian notions. The ME will throw him out when they discover exactly what change he wants. The last thing the Arab leaders want is change. They only use the filastinee issue as a smoke screen and as an excuse for everything. If HBO "solves" that, they will be in trouble and they know it. He will change the entire equilibrium in the ME and they won't let that happen. Real change is not welcome in the ME, wake up bambi..
55. Obama be a man
Rina   (06.02.09)
Obama, if you have your way with us, we will need to know how to swim. Obama, before you sink our ship and feed us to the sharks, throw us a life preserver: Give us all U.S. citizenship. The U.S. is big enough. Im ata gever.
56. anna
jay ,   jeru   (06.02.09)
anna sorry to tell you this but israel is the aggressor in every case from building settlements to everything horrible that has happened to all innocent parties on all sides, the israelis and the palestinians. both sides have suffered but the palestinians have suffered more. Imagine what would happen if a country like iran unleashed an arsenal against tel aviv as israel did against gaza see who would be crying then. No justice no peace.
57. I warned people
Jackie ,   Florida, USA   (06.02.09)
I saw Obama as a political hack from Chicago who managed to avoid really serving as a Senator, a post he was in for less than a few years before he began his run for president. I looked at his background as a community worker and thought him incapable of running a candy store, let alone a country like the US. I also questioned his background, cloudy at best, with a father and stepfather who were Muslim and a middle name that reflected his heritage plus his membership in a racist church. You expected him to befreiend Israel and the Jews, well Iwarned you.
58. HMMMMMMMNNNNNNNN
Brian ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (06.02.09)
The Amazing, Obama, Biden, Clinton, good old Rahm Emanuel, and the others making up the circus, that is now the US Government, are doing nothing about North Korea, Iran, Pakastan, Mexico, Venezeula, Columbia, the US under the last government threw Georgia under the Russian bus, we will pull out of Iraq, and still no one gives a damn about Darfur(or anywhere in Africa for that matter), Sri Lanka, anyone care about that??? Europe? UN? You guys going to do anything about Sri Lanka? Oh, too late, never mind, Tibet? What about Tibet? No? we gave Somalia and Haiti half assed attempts than gave up," BUT HEY, here's an idea let's completely betray Israel and take the side of terrorst regimes, since they have all the oil producing nations behind them. Boy did Obama, Biden and Clinton sure change their tunes since elected, I am completely disgusted with the Jewish American population, what pathetic fools you are, I am glad to leave you. This is exactly why after serving as a US Marine in Iraq, and seeing many couragous and brave men and women die for absolutely nothing, and than returning home to a nation where no one really even cares about anything but themselves I voted for McCain and than left to Israel, where in the last election I voted for Ichud Leumi, I will stand with Israel, to the death.
59.  THEN U.S.A ...DISHONEST UP TO NOW?
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (06.02.09)
60. Past US Leaders are Dishonest.....
SAM   (06.02.09)
excerpt Obama let see how true it is
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