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Jerusalem: Seculars rally, Orthodox riot
Ronen Medzini
Published: 27.06.09, 21:47
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1. The proud secular Jew
Marcel ,   Florida   (06.27.09)
The secular Jews who brought us peace by capitulation and proud perverted gay marches are at it again. Soon they will learn that they are not God. Now the glory of the God of Israel had gone up from the cherub, where it had been, to the threshold of the temple. And He called to the man clothed with linen, who had the writer’s inkhorn at his side; 4 and the LORD said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.” 5 To the others He said in my hearing, “Go after him through the city and kill; do not let your eye spare, nor have any pity. 6 Utterly slay old and young men, maidens and little children and women; but do not come near anyone on whom is the mark; and begin at My sanctuary.” So they began with the elders who were before the temple. 7 Then He said to them, “Defile the temple, and fill the courts with the slain. Go out!” And they went out and killed in the city. 8 So it was, that while they were killing them, I was left alone; and I fell on my face and cried out, and said, “Ah, Lord GOD! Will You destroy all the remnant of Israel in pouring out Your fury on Jerusalem?” 9 Then He said to me, “The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceedingly great, and the land is full of bloodshed, and the city full of perversity; for they say, ‘The LORD has forsaken the land, and the LORD does not see!’ 10 And as for Me also, My eye will neither spare, nor will I have pity, but I will recompense their deeds on their own head.” 11 Just then, the man clothed with linen, who had the inkhorn at his side, reported back and said, “I have done as You commanded me.” Ezekiel 9 God tests His people and those who are happy with their Obama nation and perverse Israel are marked for death. God never changes,it's only the deceived who think He does.
2. Bullying
Lulu ,   israel   (06.27.09)
It's very easy for seculars to drive through closed religious zones on Saturday. Maybe they should think about that.
3. Civil war
Sagi ,   Israel   (06.27.09)
is the only way to end this problem with these strange people. God will not win, I can assure on that, because logic always wins in the end and God and logic are two words that can not go together in the same sentence.
4. #1 Marcel
Lisa   (06.27.09)
why are you in Florida quoting Ezechiel instead of throwing bottles at people on a Shabbat? and adding Obama's name tells me that you are changing text for your own purpose- everybody is a scholar, right?
5. What is all the fuss?
Gideon Reader   (06.27.09)
With all the respect I can manage,...just what is the rioting about? A parking lot? Jews do not want a parking lot? Is the lot built on a cemetary or maybe the historical/traditional place where a great event took place? Will the ability of these Heredi to perform their ritual religous practices be impeded by a parking lot? I am not getting something here. We are not talking about IDF vets who are being denied their rights, or members of some public service organization not recieving their contractual compensation are we? And about throwing rocks at cars? Do those folks know; are they aware that that can earn one a pretty decent asskicking, from an unhappy recipient of the "gift" rock? So clue me in. What am I not getting here? Terry? You there? You usually have a good handle on such stuff.
6. Problem?
SmartSam ,   Cincinnati, USA   (06.27.09)
1. They will never live in peace with the non religious.
7. The 12th century marcel in Florida . Not your business
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.27.09)
You are not a Believing Jew , not even a Jew at all . You live in the USA . This is not your business at all . Go preach in your church , poor guy , i pity you .
8. To #1: Who gave you the right to tell us what to do?
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (06.27.09)
You've been in the Florida sun too long or you are just one of those bigots who hate for the sake of hating! Israel is a fee county and each and every person has the RIGHT to live according to his beliefs. No one has the right to tell another person how to live his or her life! You Americans, holier than thou are always preaching democracy and freedom while your own country is a conservative puritanical society that hides behind narrow minded bigots on the "Fair and Balanced News Channel"!
9. #2: Please explain!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (06.27.09)
How do you drive through "religious zones on Saturday". There are police barriers or are you one of those who think the law is for other people?
10. # 1
Sagi ,   Israel   (06.27.09)
The best advice for you, is to see a shrink, although I believe it is too late.
11. #4 GOOOOOOO LISA!!
Talula ,   Israel   (06.27.09)
These Losers that sit in the Diaspora and write in with their banal stupid and cretinous remarks are just a bunch of cowards who like to sit back and watch everyone do their dirty work - they repulse me.
12. waring on Shabbat? it's Orthodox only observing
observer   (06.27.09)
13. Can't You Just Feel The Love?
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (06.27.09)
Sinat Hinam (baseless hatred) is alive and well on all sides.Would not do any harm to respect the sensibilities of religious Jews.
14. Problem?
SmartSam ,   Cincinnati, USA   (06.27.09)
1. They will never live in peace with the non religious. 2. They want to make your lives miserable. 3. They are fewer than you. 4. Therefore: Give them a choice. Behave, serve, pay taxes or get the hell out of Israel. 5. Enforce it.
15. Clearly they are not religious
Talula ,   Israel   (06.27.09)
The offenders should be rounded up and put into the army. Their behaviour is contemptible and nauseating and we shouldn't have to tolerate it. Haredi - "one who trembles in awe of God" ??? HA HA HA HA who are they trying to fool?
16. 8
Lulu ,   Israel   (06.27.09)
Stupid stupid comment The dossim started rioting AGAIN on Shabbat. Look up Shabbat if you don't know what it means. And the last time I looked, what they are doing in Jerusalem is also against the law. Or do THEY think they can do what they want - but no-one else can. WOW you are really DUMB!
17. #8 David
Marcel ,   Florida   (06.27.09)
'Israel is a fee county ' Well said . Israel It is also in great danger because the wicked have risen up with unholy arrogance as they did in Sedom. The evil in the land will be cleansed.
18. Double standard supports Secualr, oppresses religious
adam eliyahu   (06.27.09)
19 Orthodox protesters were arrested. How many arrests were made on firday when the left wing protested at N'ilin and Bilin? There have been many injuries, police and protesters, some very serious, and I have never heard of arrests. Also, the arabs are often violent in order to defend their political beliefs.That is tolerated and supported by the left. Arabs are permitted acccess to almost all of their own holy sites as well as sites that are holy to other faiths. Jews are restricted from many of their holiest sites. There is an anti-charedi, pro-secular, pro-left bias in this country that is expressed politically, judicially, and in the media. To deny it is absurd, to justify it is to justify social injustice.
19. To seculars: Shabbat Korach
Hans ,   Markdorf, Germany   (06.27.09)
That was last Shabbat. Read Tora please. And keep in mind there is no Moshe Rabbenu on your side now. Beware of the brink to which you are heading full speed.
20. Nah. Real Jews dont act like that.
Gideon Reader   (06.27.09)
Whoa Boychik, Secular Jews and their parking problems have brought Israel or maybe Jews everywhere to the brink; to capitulation, to gay marches? Are you freaking nutz? A parking lot does not defile the Temple, the first or the second or impede chances for a third. It is a parking lot. You know. A flat place with black stuff on it, and maybe some painted lines as lanes for privately or corporately owned vehicles to , well park on. This is the reason for young men who should be willing to enter the military of their nation and fight to defend, but do not, are willing to do gervious bodily harm to others over? You can possible cause death or injury over tar and yellow paint, but not to defend against hostile neighbors? What putzim. What wankers. You are not heredi. You are dumbasses. Defending words but not deeds; reviling those who do not exactly bob and weave to and fro as you do as apikorim,...? Shameful. And dumb. And not worthy in the eyes of G_d to claim to represent him. What a bunch of Jews in their genes but goyim in their hearts and deeds.
21. YOU ARE ALL FREAKIN NUTS
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (06.27.09)
To the seculars...learn some Torah for heavens sake and learn to love and respect your fellow Jews as you should love and respect yourselves.Learn about thousands of years of your rich Jewish heritage and what it means to be a Jew ,with all its responsibilities.TO THE RELIGIOUS.. REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY AND KEEP IT HOLY.What on earth are you doing rioting and throwing rocks etc.on the Sabbath.?Can you not at least wait until the shabat is over?
22. what about Friday night???????
Steve ,   Mea Sharim   (06.27.09)
About 10,000 haraidem peacefully prayed on bar illan street Friday night to protest the desecration of Shabbat, only a couple of dozen people violently protested on Shabbat at the parking lot. Why did Ynet choose to cover only the violent part? Selective coverage again
23. intolerant of intolerance
izzy d   (06.27.09)
I despise lack of honesty. you all lack a basic honesty. just consider this: If i were to throw half of the attitude --an attitude that you display towards religious people on a daily basis-- if i was to treat black people with half of that attitude, you all would choke on your outrage at the 'bigotry" and "hate" and "ignorance" and "intolerance" that obviously must fill my black soul. You lack a basic integrity and honesty. but that is nothing compared to your lack of an OPINION. all i see is the faithful regurgitation of "this isn't Tehran" "mullahs" "taliban" BLAH BLAH. anybody with an ounce of historical knowledge will tell you that the analogy is false and even worse-- a display of stupidity. I despise people with no opinion more then people who have an opinion that i despise. grow up.
24. Where we are headed at
Yehuda ,   jerusalem   (06.27.09)
In a few years the religious will turn the beautiful city of Jerusalem into a Teheran
25. You negelcted to mention
Yeedle ,   Jerusalem   (06.27.09)
The greatest protest over Shabbat was 40,000 praying peacefully in honor of the Shabbat on Rechov Bar-Ilan. That was the greatest display of power and self-control in this holy city. But you neglected to mention it at all. Shame on you.
26. Israel in general and J.em in particular
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim,   (06.27.09)
B"H Israel in general and J.em in particular cannot be run against the Jews. Jewish Jews I mean. Let Jews who want to live like goyim go to California or to Washington to admire their Obama Hussein.
27. Sick Israel
Marcel ,   Florida   (06.27.09)
In Israel the SECULAR government puts people like Nadia Matar on trial for speaking the truth while hard core Islamic Movement leader Sheikh Saleh is always given a free pass after years of incitement and threats against the state.He's even invited to Haifa University to poison the minds of the impressionalbe young while those who stand for Israel are mocked,ridiculed,threatened,silenced and arrested. Can you see the evil rule which Israel suffers from ? These cowardly and fearful leaders of Israel only go after fellow Jews to appease their puppet master in Washington.They never tear down illegal moslem settlements,only Jewish ones. This week another high level Hamas terrorist and politician was released for nothing in return while Gilad Shalit remains in Hamas chains in Gaza. Numerous security roadblocks were removed by the latest neutered Israeli stooge at the helm, Bibi to please the destroyers of Israel by way of their Road Map. The real crime is not Natia Matar's correct assesment of Yonatan Bassi but a faithless and cowardly Israeli government which bows to evil U.S. demands and illegal decrees all the while playing the cheap whore as they betray and endanger the citizens they were elected to serve and protect. When will the true criminals,the corrupt politicians of Labor, Meretz,Likud and Kadima be put on trial for their crimes of treachery and betrayal,selling out the land and people of Israel for the no peace Road Map ?
28. Sabbath
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.27.09)
The Talmud tells the story of Elisha son of Aviah who was a great Talmudic scholar (if not the greatest)who became even a bigger infidel,and transgresst every law in the Torah,one Sabbath he was riding on his horse,a clear violation of the Sabbath laws,while his disciple Rabbi Meir was walking beside him ,discussing the law,the sage Rabbi Meir did not spit on Elisha,he did not throw stones at him,or pull him down from the horse,the Haredim of today have a new Torah,a new Mozes.
29. I like secular-orthodox pie fights...they're a hoot
Ypip ,   Canada   (06.28.09)
30. comment to #24
yeedle ,   Jerusalem   (06.28.09)
Trust me if the holy city of Jerusalem became completely religious there would be complete serenity here and the entire world. "Just One Shabbos And We'll All Be Free". If all jews keep two shabbosim the geulah will come instantaneously. I think that as weak as we are these days we can accomplish the same effect if everyone in Jerusalem kept one shabbos. Give it a shot, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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