Ask all those orthodox who stay in kosher Arabic hotels and eat the kosher food there, what they think about the Arabic christians who got the kashrut certificate. Why is this not a problem????

Thank you for your views, which are better reasoned than most. One may not simply ASSUME, however, that quantum physics corroborates their position. You will have to demonstrate that and I anticipate some great fun in that endeavor. That you "often believe that whatever destiny I (we) may have, is not one which is assigned nor predictable" betrays that your perspective is locked into timespace. After all, outside of timespace, future, though not necessarily predetermined nor predestined, is now and known. You haven't sorted through the distinction between predetermination, predestination ("directing things") and the operation of free will in timespace as perceived from timespaceless awareness. Even magicians know enough about that to demonstrate it. (I demonstrated it some years ago in our newsletters.) Scientists agree neither to ASSUMING a reason is mere rationalization nor that it is unknowable. Science explores and investigates. And science most certainly recognizes that reasons that have been found do NOT support your speculation that it all arises out of a need "to feel purposeful." More science and less assuming would serve you well. Defend that from quantum physics. :-) Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah Jew (Orthodox Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advocate for Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

The report does NOT say, nor in any way imply, skewed. Rather, it states explicitly that educational homogeneity occurs more in smaller groups than in larger groups. This is a matter of where the Bell curve of the Jewish community is located within the Bell curve of the national population--highly educated. This also prompts the question: is the group educationally more homogenous than the other populations because it's small? Or is it small because it emphasizes educational homogeneity? Clearly, the Jewish community has always held education as a high ideal more so than other communities. Notably, this is corroborated in that the only other category to surpass the Jewish community in the percentage of college grads is the Asian community--which also holds education an a very high priority. Further, you failed to read the small print: in their report, Jews "refers only to Jews by religion and not to the total Jewish ethnic population." This is one of the rare times that a report uses reasonable accuracy in looking at the Jewish community. The result is entirely unsurprising for those of us who live in the Orthodox (not Ultra-Orthodox) Jewish community (although Ultra-Orthodox were included in the report's definition). The "Jewish" community that elected Obama is almost entirely mutually exclusive from the "Jews by religion" cited in this report. While "ethnic Jews" supported Obama en masse, Orthodox Jews--the more highly educated Jews in the report--did not. Please get your facts straight before blaming us for Obama. Nor did Obama squeak by dependent on a pivotal Jewish vote. You knuckle-draggers brought him on yourselves. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah Jew (Orthodox Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advocate for Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

The "historical heritage" you speak of exists in Christian scriptures, and its connection to Jewish history is tenuous at best. Like the late Yosef "Tommy" Lapid, you are so ignorant of, and biased against, your *actual* Jewish heritage that you prefer to look among the "worldwide mainstream" of Christian-based cultures and say that this and that are things that the Israeli Jewish public is ignorant of. I mean, take the first comment here - you hate religious Jews as "racist bastards", bemoan the very fact that there are still people eating Kosher food, and then go on through several comments talking about how Jews should recognize Jesus as part of their Jewish heritage!

the new testament explain what happend to jews during roman times, it's more than religious book. mainstreem? lol there is no main streem, if you only knew, part of the bezantic era that existed in Israel among other countries in the region, was the east chritian kingdom, while the west kindom based it's roots in Rome. how much do you know about the bizantic jewish people in Israel, it the history of your land and your people, and yet you barly know anything about it.

In the USA many non-Jewish firms have a kashrut certificate. There is no reason not to supervise her bakery according to the conditions set out by the Rabbinate, which would be quite normal in the Diaspora When it comes to bread, but not cake etc, there is no Halachic requirement to eat only pas Yisrael, although in Israel there is not much excuse for pas akum

up through the 4th century C.E. The NT is NOT what you claim it to be!!! It is a false document, compiled well after 135 C.E. by Hellenist Roman gentiles who forcibly ousted the 15th Netzarim paqid, and its text is based on hearsay of Hellenist Jews and corrupted by thousands of misojudaic redactions. This is all well known, acknowledged and well documented even among scholarly Christian circles. You can't even spell and I seriously doubt you can read the first word of the NT, viz. the Codex Vaticanus or Codex Sinaiticus or any of the papyrus fragments. Nor, it appears, can you read the first word of Tan"kh. I translate all of these from their original language. By the time of the Byzantine (learn to spell it!!!) era, the Roman misojudaic rewrite had long been completed and accepted in the Church. In fact, by the 4th century, the Church was born in 135 C.E., and had become fixed as a misojudaic displacement theology claiming to supersede Judaism and that their Hellenist gentile NT superseded and displaced our Torah. That is patently self-contradicting and impossible. You cannot claim that Torah is true for purposes of founding Christianity, but false for purposes of superseding and displacing it with your Hellenist NT idolatry. Christianity is intrinsically and intractably self-contradicting. There are more than two pages of such contradictions in my book, Who Are the Netzarim? There is enough historical information the Church has kept from you to give you a heart attack in the History Museum pages of the only Netzarim website (www.netzarim.co.il). I doubt you can read them and I'm confident you cannot deal with the information there. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah Jew (Orthodox Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advocate for Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

And yes, there is a main-stream - a Western cultural main-stream that focuses on European and American cultural and historical ideals. I'm talking about main-stream *today*, not mainstream 2000 years ago. And yes, I know quite well the history of the Roman Empire, the de-facto split to Western Roman Empire and Eastern Roman Empire in 285 via the Tetrarchy system, Constantine's abandonment of the Tetrarchy and the further solidification of the Eastern Empire, and the de-jure divide of the two Empires (until then enjoying at least the appearance of shared central governance) in 395 between Theodosius's two sons. What precisely do you think I am ignorant of? Byzantine rule of the Province of Palestine, the restoration of the major cities and the move from the old Empire's paganism to official endorsement of various Christian sects and sites? The brief sputter of a rebellion in 352, when the Jews (by now an obvious minority in their own land) attempted, and failed, to regain control? The end of their rule as the Persians, and then the Muslims arrived? I'm quite familiar with the history of the land, thank you very much. The scholars of the Talmud and other assorted writings worked in Palestine in that very period. Perhaps you should read a few of them, rather than insist that everyone else must accept Jesus as part of Jewish culture?

wrong, you recite what someone else told you. what you describe was the west church ways, byzantic is the east church, duh, and jews practiced jesus preaching in catacombs because the roman forbad them. damn I explain you your own history.

try jUDEH, palestine is a curse word it's like calling someone "sand nigger" so please no need to curse. but still he was a major influence who gave many people hope during bad times 2000 years ago many events happend, events that you r not familiar with. you r so against something you don't know. and he was jewish. old jewish leader. if you like it or not.

Some of us do know about Constantinople or Byzantium and the Eastern Roman Empire. This has nothing to do with the New Testament that was compiled before the time of Constantine.

Our torah this guy dared to write . The Torah is from the Jews , not from you a baptist missionary

It was a clear and deliberate attempt by the Roman Empire to destroy the connection of the Jewish people to Judea. But like it or not, from that point on Judea was dead, and the Province of Palestine was born. This reflects little on the current politically-motivated Arab populace calling itself Palestinian, as the Arabs arrived much later to the land... but I digress. You say I should accept Jesus as a Jewish leader because he gave people hope. I say he founded a small splinter group off Judaism that eventually became our greatest nightmare, and which tried to eradicate our very existence, spiritually and physically, on both the Western Roman Catholic side and the Eastern Orthodox side. Neither Church saw our continued existence as a blessing, and the Jews lived under very real oppression under the Eastern Empire's Christianity. I say leave Jesus to the Christians. To me he is nothing, a mere speck in my nation's history that soon left it, grew, and tried to snuff us out. What's next, will we use Sabbatai Zevi, the infamous cult leader who called himself Messiah during the 17th century, as an example of Jewish leadership?

quot " say he founded a small splinter group off Judaism ". it wasn't small, it was the main streem of judaism 2000 years ago. FWI Sabbatai Zevi coverted to islam, the religion already existed 500 years ago he wasn't the founder of the religion and defenetely wasn't a persona who try to save Israelites, he left Israel for good and I am happy that people like him left cause Israelies don't need fales prophets.

This time i won't hit the enter key. OK. My question is, as I walked by the shore in Yaffo, there were at least a dozen people all standing on their heads, stretched out in wierd postions doing yoga. Are they still Jews? I have heard of a group in Tel Aviv that are Buhuddist and encourage others to join, are they Jews? Then, we have just seen a influx of homosexuals and they encourage their "freedom" to be on all. Are they Jews too? God says not to worship any other God and all mentioned are gods. Check it out. I am not being a smart a$$, I just want to know.

Excellent question that goes straight to the heart of the matter. According to Torah (including logical Halahah), no, Torah has placed them (including atheists) under the sentence of kareit for avodah zarah. According to rabbis, if they were born Jewish then yes--a purely racist view and entirely contradictory to innumerable passages of Torah. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah Jew (Orthodox Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advocate for Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

Neither a historical Jew nor the founder of the Netzarim. Your message was mostly correct, and you're correct to reject J-sus but the reason you gave is historically inaccurate. The true historical reason is a far more effective reason to reject J-sus. I encourage you to take a closer look at the history of that period, which church scholars have long muddled in their efforts to promulgate the Christian doctrine you're perpetuating: that the founder of Christianity was a historical Jew. That is false. This information, long buried by the Church, is found in the "30-99 C.E." section in our History Museum of our website. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah Jew (Orthodox Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advocate for Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

It was small, not the mainstream of Judaism at all (it flourished *outside* of Judea, and had few followers within it). It only saw a large following within the borders of Judea when the Roman Empire became Christian, and imperial subjects from the neighboring lands were fast becoming the chief citizens of the destroyed Judea. And Sabbatai Zevi was at first hailed by "many" in the "Jewish mainstream". It ended badly when he was caught by Muslims in the Turkish Caliphate and his lies were soon revealed for what they were. And yet he was once a respected man. Even a "leader" of men. Should we then mention him in our history with praise?

Doing yoga or being homosexual or secular , is not a religion . They don't believe in a special god . This paqid venere's an other god , this yeshua , better known as jesus . He can't ,and is'nt Jewish at all . He tries to deceive unaware people with his Torah Jew or other such words . Now he is a thief too , He has stolen the Jewish Torah , he dares to say OUR Torah , but he is'nt more Jewish than the Pope .

You stated "I've TRANLATED NT from ALL EARLIEST source docs up through the 4th century C.E." Congratulations! To have located all the NT source documents and then to have translated them yourself is quite an accomplishment! This sort of work is usually done by *teams of scholars*. You must be very good to have done this *all on your own*. I'm VERY interested in this body of work you've done. I'm quite serious about this being a great accomplishment. I'd like to know more about this translation of yours. - Where can I obtain a copy of this unique translation? - What manuscripts did you use? - Who did you obtain to verify your translation? I'm curious because of your debasement of current NT translations. If you have something better, let's see it and see 'the bonafides', also.

This guy has told us already more than this story . So one lie less or more , it does'nt count anymore .

I've read some of the claims. But, thanks for the heads-up in case I had not. I confess I've never seen anyone claim to have translated, *all alone*, the NT from original sources. This is quite a claim!

Published by Deutsche Bibelstiftung, Stuttgard, Germany. This has the complete text of the NT with an apparatus that provides all of the different readings for all of the source documents up to around the time of its publishing. You just need to be able to read the Greek and their apparatus. It's no mystery. It's just that Christians don't do it and the Church buries it. I used not only ALL of the source docs as indicated in NTG up thru the 4th century CE, NHM (below) shows ALL of the variant readings in the extensive notes (2 volumes, almost 1000 pages). I then incorporated ALL of the Hebrew source documents in Talmud and other Hebrew sources that I could find up through the Even Bokhan. Why I stopped with that is noted in NHM (below). You can see a few sample pages in the Netzarim Shop of our website (URL below, in our virtual Mall). You can verify what I've said even from those few pages (and NTG). You can order the first installment, The Netzarim Reconstruction of Hebrew Matityahu (NHM), from Schuellerhouse.com. When you've absorbed that we'll go from there. I'm not about to go into 1000 pages of explanation for you. If you're serious, see our website and buy the book. You wrote this, and the atheist answered you, on Shabbat when I'm busy going to beit k'nesset, etc. I only noticed your post when, most unusually, I happened to refer back to this article on another matter. If you believe the atheist you deserve your fate. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah Jew (Orthodox Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advocate for Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

Who will sane people believe , you who can only deceive people [ ministry of absorption , self proclaimed convert and authority , now advocate , and so on ] or an HONEST atheist ? You who call yourself "Jewish" , but has your mouth full of this ribi yeshua better known as Jesus .

Only FAKE Jews are .

Thank you for your reply, I will check and see what you have available. I *am* very interested in Bible translations. I own many, including a Hebrew - English OT. I have used, but don't own, a Greek-English translation. Your statement: - "You just need to be able to read the Greek and their apparatus. It's no mystery. It's just that Christians don't do it and the Church buries it." is erroneous, for me, in a couple of ways. - Don't know where you get the idea that Christians bury - "don't do" - Ancient Greek - this is false. It's the reason I asked you who verified this translation. - THIS Christian (me) has had an interest in, and has studied, Ancient Greek since before I was a Christian. I've learned I'm not good with languages, but my interest has exposed me to the scholarship of people who ARE very good. A good friend of mine was very adept at reading and translating Ancient Greek. I'm not that impressed when someone claims a 'new' translation based on Ancient Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, or Latin. I assume a fluency in at least one of these languages is essential for anyone undertaking OT -or- NT translations. The translations we have today are done by people who are considered to be scholars in these fields. Many people may not read them (I do), but Bible translations can have a list of people who worked on the translation at the beginning of each Bible. You said: - "You wrote this, and the atheist answered you, on Shabbat when I'm busy going to beit k'nesset, etc." I replied when it was convenient for me to do so. I didn't reply, on purpose, on your Sabbath to make things difficult for you. I was NOT expecting an immediate response. I do thank you for replying when you were able to do so. I can never know when I'll have the time to respond to people. Sometimes I don't reply at all because so much time elapses and the topic gets too old. Exchanging ideas on a board such as this should be enjoyable and done in one's free time. Many people have busy lives and their free time can be erratic (like mine). I do understand.

I've perused your website and see the sample pages pertaining to your translation. It's good that you have put your work out for people to obtain. I have a couple of questions: - Did you actually translate from the manuscripts themselves or did you use another author's translation? - Was the translation submitted to acknowledged scholars for verification? I noted from your website that you are a former Baptist minister. I'm surprised that a former Baptist minister would state that Christians ignore - "don't do" - the ancient source texts. What college did you attend? They didn't teach any of the source languages? Ministers I know are required to have some knowledge of, at the very least, Ancient Greek. It was part of their curriculum. (Any college I can think of that trains ministers, especially Baptist ones, has language requirements for the source languages.)

Miriam, the difference is in who gives the kashrut. Ultra Orthodox Rabbis generally don't recognize the State kashrut laws; the places they go are under independent supervision. The state ruling that her place must be designated Kosher is just going to grant her movement recognition - a Jew knowledgable and committed to Kashrut wouldn't eat there.