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Kingdom of hatred
Adi Porat
Published: 25.08.09, 23:57
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31. what do you expect from the Swedes, Norwegians, French, etc
Dan ,   USA   (08.26.09)
who complied with the demands of Nazi Germany?
32. Dont worry, there will come a time when
Bev ,   USA   (08.26.09)
the Swedes come out of their homes and be in Gaza.
33. Nothing surprising here ! For quite a
i   (08.26.09)
long time, the socialist policies in Sweden have been grafted ideally onto their endemic anti-Semitism and it has come out as one of the most efficient state-controlled propaganda machine. Interests, interests, interests ! Oil,oil,oil !That is Sweden's code word. Exactly for that specific reason they cooperated copiously with Hitler and his 3rd Reich(steel !!!!) and gave the Danes a helping hand when the Danish asked for it. Not for the Jews, mind you ! So, my blogger friends, theirs is a perfect, well-oiled Soviet-type propaganda machine which for the last few decades has been constantly grinding the Jewish problem, as they call it. So, again, please don't be surprised by these Godless, heartless and totally stereotyped politicians and lots of others in this dark kingdom.
34. Sweden are not antisemitic....
Franklin ,   Paris   (08.26.09)
....in fact...they d'nt care about Israel security and Arab and Palestinian propaganda is stronger than the Israelis "communiqués" often inconsistant despite the bloody actions of Hamas or Hizbollah. Palestinians are very good actors in the caracters of victims ....in Jewish mode. A lot of European contries remind their falled duty in Hitler period and now give credit to the so called "resistance" of the Palestinians SOME EUROPEANS ARE USING THEIR INSTINCT OF CUPABILITY AGAINST ISRAEL TO PAY THEIR TRIBUTE TO THEIR OLDS VICTIMS BY SILENCE AND COWARDISE DURING WWII.
35. #2 Racism is racism -whatever you call it!
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (08.26.09)
PLEEEEAAASSSSEEEE! Don't preach to us about us not following "the teachings of Judaism". When was the las time YOU followed ANY teachings? And don't mistake the loud and hysterical barks of an Anarchist, Nazi and Islamo-Leftist minority (not to mention the Muslims of course) for the "whole world". You are much fewer than you want to think! And last, you are perhaps among the last to have ANY morals to preach to us about "moral standing". When you stop being an a-moral racist, give us a call. Until that happens, you keep calling yourself a "cynic" - but all we see from here is a venomus and racist imbecile. Have a great day!
36. #10 Kingdom of Fools?
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (08.26.09)
"Avi" - you are a failed impostor - nothing more. The obvious Islamo-Leftist propaganda is so transparent that you can't fool anyone here about your pathetic "witness" stories. You may have been in Lebanon, but as a Hezbollah or Fatah terrorist. And you better learn some Swedish history before exposing your ignorance in public. Sweden has been more savage that you think and I would say that part of it still is, even if they don't use swords or guns anymore, only hateful words like yourself.
37. Ron, You don'y respect Muslims.All those Isreaeli
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NY   (08.26.09)
syert doesn't mean anything top me. Just because i drink we are not enemies. I love peaceful people not terrorists.I never claimed this so please don't blame me-blame ypourself. This is not fair
38. STUPID NUMBER SRBIA !
ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU   (08.26.09)
I WOULD HAPPLY BEAT YOU. I WOULD EVEN GIVE MONEY FOR THAT.
39. Lot alike
Israelfriend ,   Sweden   (08.26.09)
It seems to me like Israeli Sweden haters judge Sweden from only what they read in the papers just as Swedish Israel haters judge Israel from only what they read in the papers. The newspapers are powerful in manipulating stupid people and the haters on both sides are truly very stupid. Sad but true.
40. Non religious country
Sören ,   Uppsala, Sweden   (08.26.09)
Remember that sweden is a non religious country. For us Israelis are israelis and not jews. Thats why we dont make the connection to antisemitism, because we just considder Israel like any other country. You in Israel may not agree but for a swede this is a fact. Now, most swedes that I know are pro palestinians. No doubt about that. Whatever reason for this I dont know but does it really matter? We dont HATE jews, we just dont like the israeli goverment. Just like we dont like the chinese goverment. But surely, Israel is not our first choice country when going on vacation. Then again, Palestina or Lebanon is not really first choice either.
41. #40
Marilyn ,   USA   (08.26.09)
I would like to see Sweden put more effort into the idea of seeking truth and finding it. Right now judging by this newspaper issue, it seems that many people are just kind of settling for what they are getting, which isn't a whole lot.
42. Why does Sweden matter?
Sidney ,   USA   (08.26.09)
If they want to be an honorary member of the Arab League, let them. Israel needs more self confidence and not search for approval from others. Its accomplishments should be the envy of the world. If it ever got a decent government, which would require changing its political system, it would soar even higher.
43. #42
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (08.26.09)
The problem with Sweden is one third-rate newspaper, it's greedy editor and Sweden's racist government. You should not condemn the Swedish people. Sweden itself does not matter. Rather, the problem is that Swedish newspaper together with the Swedish government, together with countless Israeli and non-Israeli NGOs are legitimizing the calls for Israel's destruction and following genocide of the Jews.
44. Lets talk about hatred
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (08.26.09)
There is no country on earth which hates the outside world as much as the Israelis. They hate the Palestinians who have challenged the notion of Jewish 'victimhood' as they have been continuously humiliated and and brutalized by the Israelis who blithely use religion as an excuse to steal their land and deprive them of any political recourse. They hate Arabs because they exist and will not excuse Jewish racism and attacks. They hate the Europeans when the Europeans point out the violations of international law committed by the Israelis. They hate the Christians because they are not Jewish. They hate the US because it does not give money to Israel merely because it is Jewish. They hate the Diaspora because the Diaspora sometimes criticizes Israeli actions although they love the money and political support for Israeli violations of the most basic humanitarian norms. They hate Jews who courageously speak out and expose Israeli duplicty because that should remain hidden. They hate the 'other' even when said 'other' are Jewish themselves. It is a country based upon hatred.
45. 44 , and this is said by you . HATER # 1
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.26.09)
I could refute every of your points , but it would be at no avail , you hate Israelis because we exist and you hate it .
46. Racism against Sweden.
Folksjäl. ,   Sverige.   (08.26.09)
It's pretty funny actually how you whine and accuse Sweden for being racist, antisemetic and hateful. And what do the majority in this comments do? Talking shit about Sweden and the swedish people, who's hateful? Sweden is one of the few countrys that haven't been in war for over 200 years. The fact that Sweden help people despite what color their skin have or what religion they have is wrong? It's time for Israel and the Jews to grow up and stop using 70 year old stuff to be "immune" against criticism. Your victim mentality is a joke...
47. to #46
Hilonia   (08.26.09)
it is amazing that you care so much about us that you actually care to read an Israeli newspaper. As an Israeli I really don't think we have anything to be ashamed of. Certainly not more than Sweden. Maybe you feel a bit jealous, that a nation of refugees about the size of Sweden has a stronge economy and has a much more soffisticated hi tech industry and science (check the per-capita scientif publications index). Yes, thank God we make enough money to tour your country and no, we really don't appreciate your business. Stay home. Dring beer. Hate Israel. Just aks yourself why you keep reading Israeli newspapers...
48. #1 - too much time from you busy...
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (08.26.09)
schedule of going to the mall and watching television? What do you find exciting enough to hold your 30 second attention span? You know there is medication for that these days.
49. 46 , folksjal
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.26.09)
We accept criticism , we criticise our governement too , even harshly . What we don't accept are totally unfounded and unchecked accusations . What we don'y accept are one sided critics , only our "errors" or "crimes" without looking at the other's side crimes . We are very sensitive about unfounded critics uttered against our IDF . Your Ambassador here understood it very well . That some of those tb's are exagerated , yes , i could eventually agree , but we have seen not so Israel friendly acts in your country , don't forget it .
50. 45 , we hate you so much , that we allow you
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.26.09)
to sprew your hate against us . Not nice for us who "hate" you as you said ?
51. #46
Rosengård guy ,   Al-swedisteen   (08.26.09)
"Sweden is one of the few countrys that haven't been in war for over 200 years. " Because u r COWARDS! Should I comment other ridiculous statements of yours?
52. #47 Hilonia
Daniel ,   London   (08.26.09)
We should ask ourselves that? Your government commented on a backpage article in a Swedish tabloid. I checked, Sweden is joint third in tehnological achievement with japan and has more patents per capita than any other country. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_tec_ach-economy-technological-achievement Good luck avoiding Swedish technology. We developed so many everyday contrivances you wouldn't be able to run your life. Ever used a vacuum cleaner? Think your car has ball bearings or safety belts? Do you think anyone ever used a torch anywhere in Israel? How about a match, or a boat propeller? See if your milk comes in tetra pak, or if any of your clothes uses a zip-lock. What about a mobile phone net, got one of those? Ever uced ulcer medicine? A thermometer? Sweden is also the least corrupt (transparency international), most democratic (the economist), most equal (world economic forum), gives the most in foreign aid (oecd) and is on top of that in the top ten in GDP/capita, HDI, Global Competitiveness, I could go on. Do you want me to tell you how Israel fares? Comparatively, not very good at all.
53. Sweden - Adi Porat's article
Daniel Bentley ,   Ottawa, Canada   (08.26.09)
This is a much more damning commentary on sweden than even the Aftonbladet's absurdities. Seen in this light, sweden seems to be a soul-chilling place indeed - off limits to any Jew who wants to feel safe.
54. It's all a smokescreen!
A Swede ,   Kingdom of hatred   (08.26.09)
Your Government actively look for outside "threats" to shift focus of interest from the real difficulties that they are facing. The newspapers, the ultra orthodox and the far right all play along trying to beat eachother with the most disgraceful comments and draw parallels with our ww2 past and spread other halftruths about Sweden. Sure, Aftonbladet is a Palestine biased tabloid with very onesided reporting and one have to agree that the article in question is junk. But the fact of the matter is that we have press freedom in Sweden so its perfectly fine to criticize Israel! I did'nt have a opinion on Israelis before and i'm not gonna form one from reading these disgusting comments from people even though its tempting. I learned from you guys that you can't judge a people from what a newspaper spews out. Anti my ***
55. #46, your post should never have been written.
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (08.26.09)
As I've provided you, in advance, a very detailed answer regarding the points you have raised, at my post #16. Had you read that post, your comments here would not have been necessary.
56. #52
Hilonia   (08.26.09)
We should ask ourselves why th ebackpages of an American tabloid would read about meetings with alians and the figure of the satan seen in a cloud, while in Sweden it's about the figure of the satan seen in a state and connected to a Jew arrested in New Jersy, While there is no evidence at all not even the alleged victim's family that any organ was missing. Why do you feel so complacent about it. And Dear Daniel look at the Per capita scientific publication as well as patent application and Nasdaq commerce and you will see that Israel is second to America in Hi Tech. And If I need a medicine i try to buy Teva... almost 25 of the Israeli workforce has academic degrees. This is not a pissing contest but you have a very patronizing attitude. i looked at the table: israel is ranked 17, imagine that: no oil, no coal, no iron, no wood, just brains. I suggest you read: Nature 430, 311-316 (15 July 2004) | doi:10.1038/430311a; Published online 14 July 2004 The scientific impact of nations
57. Sweden has too many racists
Illan ,   Chicago   (08.26.09)
I spend some time in Sweden 30 years ago. Older generation, then, were not racists but Jews were very scared. Young people, then, were dreaming of a good time, before they were born, they liked Hitler very much though they never lived under hitler. Every week they had demonstrations of socialists and anarchists (sort of Nazis) in the center of the capital. These progressives had their heads covered with Arafat's scarfs. I always saw women with pictures of Arafat and map of 'Palestine" in place of Israel - that was 30 years ago. I spoke tom one of this socialists=nazis. It seems they had respect only of ... IDF. The guy told me that Kissinger was dating one of their movie star. Why it has something to do with Israel I don't know. He was upset that people in Sweden do not speak German anymore. English replaced German, Capitalism raplacing National socialism. Very, very bad from his point of view. The guy was about 24 y/o 30 years ago.
58. 46...You declam....
Franklin ,   Paris   (08.26.09)
......"It's time for Israel and the Jews to grow up and stop using 70 year old stuff to be "immune" against criticism. Your victim mentality is a joke..." BUT SWEDEN USING THAT OLD STUFF TO BENEFIT THE PALESTINIANS AND TO COMDAMN ISRAEL....easy ,not very expansive..... and a nice "camouflage" of the swedish attitude in wwii. ......" The fact that Sweden help people despite what color their skin have or what religion they have is wrong? OK....DESPITE TO BE JEWISH IN SWEDEN 70 YEARS AGO...??? SHAME ON YOU !!!!
59. Examples
A swede ,   Gothenburg   (08.26.09)
Perhaps the most shocking example of Swedish sentiment I have seen is the time, years ago, when Gudrun Schyman (then, sadly, a prominent politician, nowadays hopefully a marginalized sideshow) appeared on national TV with a Kafia (same color and pattern Arafat always wore), after a particularly bloody day in Jerusalem where busses exploded killing dozens, and said she understood the Palestinian’s motives for these actions. Shocking in its own right, it’s not the declaration of a prominent politician that is the most evil, but the silence of the general public that followed.
60. My 50 is for 44
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.26.09)
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