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Just sue them
Yair Lapid
Published: 30.10.09, 14:07
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31. #11 - Agree with #21 why are you the 'expert"?
Australian Guy ,   Australia   (10.30.09)
Where's the proof? Have you got the proof? We dont blather - give us the facts. If the evidence you have is so damning, why not find a sympathetic lawyer and present a case? Also, even if your 'eye witness' account of Shatila held substance - why not share the proof with us? Surely, with so many people like you , who hate Israeli's and Jews - there must be some way that you can prove your claims. Why not ask Goldstone to launch an investigation? Start lobbying someone will give you the money. Ahmednejihad will help fund it. Israel is easy prey right now.. One-sided bigots think there is no possibility of another version. Your own prejudice colours all that you think and say.
32.  Courts give slanderers opportunity to prove themselves
Australian Guy ,   Australia   (10.30.09)
Slanderers dont like courts - they actually need to prove their comments with facts.
33. Amazing
America   (10.30.09)
You won't take it to court, you will get too much media attention on your crimes, the truth. And you know this, that suits are settled outside of courts so the public does not get a whiff of it. The smell really stinks now more than ever. John Stewart is the closest America has to investigative journalism at this time. Nice to see that someone still has morals; puts humanity above money. As far as these posts here, and the topic of the article; well, bring it on. You will not just be attacking this media outlet that Stewart works for, but you will be attacking the entire American citizenry. israel attacks a small people who were nice enough to let them stay on their land as agreed many years ago, yet you treat these nice human beings like animals. That is how the world is treating you now, like animals. In fact an animal has more balls than you cowards. Too scared to find out the truth, to take responsibility for your actions, and the actions of your selected servants in government. furthermore to prove your cowardice, you use children as human shields, cut off medical supplies to the needy, sucker up to other people's governments to manipulate; simply put, the world is fed up with your kind. And no about of squirming, or lying will get you out of this one. The Goldstone report sums you up pretty well. It is no secret, we all know what worms you all are. America can't help you much anymore, you guys are on your own. And by the way, most people now know that Israel has hired a group of people to counter bloggers who write the truth about Israel, even lower scum than the regular citizens who sit by and watch their government commit war crimes even though the world community is telling you that your crimes warrant arrest. Good luck getting out of this mess. Suggest you grow up, and start respecting others. Evolution has a place for you, decide. America is looking for something that just puts things over the top. You can steal our money, but we will unite when more of us get to find out the truth about what all you guys have been up to. And allot of your evil deeds have been aimed toward America's public servants. So, I say bring the spot light with you, we all what to see more.
34. No 11
Heather ,   London   (10.30.09)
Doctor in Gwynedd, I hope that my family who live near you, never visit your surgery. As you well know, the people who carried out the massacres in Sabra and Shatilla were Christian phalangists. What about the numerous massacres carried out by the Palestinians for which they are immune from prosecution including Abbas who was responsible for the Archille Lauro highjacking. And as you are so proud of being Dutch, look at how your own countrymen acted during the war, how apart from a very few brave people, they were only too happy to give up their Jews, it was a Dutch policeman who betrayed Anna Frank.
35. To number 11
Steve ,   London   (10.30.09)
Thanks for that. No need to sue you there'll be an official complaint with the GMC- General Medical Council on Monday morning concerning your behaviour. People like you need to learn that medicine is not politics and you are no doctor and no professional. You are not fit to be a GP in the UK and good luck answering the GMC. better go back to Holand if they'll have you, wait they don't like supporters of Islamic supremecy there, better of go to Iran. whatever but you're not welcome in the UK!
36. Bring it on and you'll end up paying the papers
Ezra ,   London   (10.30.09)
Or grow up and take responsability for your actions.
37. 33# Well said couldnt put it better myself
Caroline ,   TA   (10.30.09)
38. Start a Fund to Support These Lawsuits
Dan ,   New York, USA   (10.30.09)
- Make sure it's well managed and transparent - Build a strategy (e.g., go after all slights, large or small? Prioritize which to attack first?, etc.) - Over time, learn which tactics work and which don't - Create a public relations arm to explain why we're doing this and to respond to the attacks that are likely to follow Yair, if you're serious, I would love to be a part of it. I'm tired of seeing Jews in Europe keeping their heads down in the face of mounting -- sometimes outlandish -- accusations. It's very reminiscent of a previous time that didn't work out too well for the Jews.
39. #2 Free speech is threatened by free slander
Australian Guy ,   Australia   (10.30.09)
You got it backwards. No one with firm evidence needs to be frightened to present their case in court. Put up or shut up.
40. brilliant idea...
OZ   (10.30.09)
but don't sop there.. -sue hamas and its"leaders; in the hague for war crimes. - sue lebanon for harboring terror group- hizbulah. - sue the pa and its"leaders" for war crimes and fo every terror attack in recent years.
41. sue them
wee beng choo ,   chicago usa   (10.30.09)
that is how Msr. Dee at Southern Poverty Law Center, Alabama did it as did Lee Kuan Yew, former prime minister Singapore did it. I agree, sue them. As they say in Britain, "Sue the basta_ds."
42. #33 America, go home to England!
Joo ,   Eurabia   (10.30.09)
Leave Iraq, Afghanistan and countless military bases WW. Apologies for countless wars conducted on all continents during your bloody history including atom bombing of Japan . Should I continue? You moron and your post is too lengthy, but empty as a Goldstone's report you so admire.
43. TO 11
Maria Rita ,   Buzios Brazil   (10.30.09)
This guy must be a terrible professional. OMG, a person that spends his days writing in talkbacks instead of being in the clinic or studying to improve must really be freak in a surgery table...
44. @ Heater: idea so simple-if U suck, EVERYONE try U...R U
Bob ,   Moscow   (10.30.09)
from Oxford or something???
45. to number 11
Simon ,   Manchester   (10.30.09)
I just checked and you are not even on the specialist register as a general practitioner in the United Kingdom, even though you are working as a GP. Thanks for your letter and the GMC will be receiving a formal complaint about you, no need to sue you! Needless to say this information will be forwarded to many other organizations that are against political extremism in medicine so look forward to a busy time explaining you extreme views not fitting of a medical professional and your lack of qualifications!
46. #33 HUH?!?!?!?!
Dan ,   New York, USA   (10.30.09)
First of all, Jon Stewart (who, as you say is "the closest America has to investigative journalism") is the host of A COMEDY SHOW ON COMEDY CENTRAL! You must not think much of your country if he's the best you think we have!!! Sheesh! Besides, Stewart is more than happy to be proud to be ashamed that he's Jewish. In fact, his Judaism is simply an accident of birth. His capability and wit is a product of his Judaism, however. Second of all your diatribe is EXACTLY why we need to mount such an offensive. You read one-sided tripe in media outlets like the BBC, Guardian, etc that makes Israelis and Jews out to be dogs and you believe it. The fact is, there IS no balanced view out there. This will help to rectify the imbalance. Funny -- you seem to be soooooo concerned about war crimes, respect for people, using human shields, etc .... yet I see nothing you write condemining HAMAS. Maybe you don't know what they do to their own people? You should.
47. Suing
bob ,   jerusalem   (10.30.09)
Brilliant idea. Except it's a pity the lawyer didn't tell you that an individual accused of being a war criminal might stand a chance of proving his case but a company or a country would find it very difficult. In civil courts unlike criminal courts, the onus is on the plaintiff to prove themselves. It's a good fantasy though
48. Finally
Isser ,   Edgware   (10.30.09)
I seriously hope this is not just talk, but indeed there will be action. Start with the left-wing media move on to all the NGO's and palestinian organisations. Go for it, don't stop and do more file suits against palestinians and accuse them of war crimes. Can't wait.
49. A Scientology Tactic
Jack ,   Fort Lauderdale, FL   (10.30.09)
This reminds me of what the Church of Scientology does when people criticize them for being a cult that bilks its followers out of money in exchange for negative hypnosis, blackmail, and abuse. Of course the Scientologists do it because they don't like bad press, but they also do it because, at the highest levels of the Church, they know the accusations are true. Jews should be better than this. If their position is indefensible in a moral argument, then it remains indefensible no matter how many lawyers issue injunctions on Israel's behalf. Why can't we be honest about the occupation? Why do so many of us view the Palestinians as beneath us? These are the questions that must be addressed for Israel to regain the respect of the thinking world.
50. To number 11
Solicitor ,   Cardiff   (10.30.09)
Thanks for that I'm a solicitor with a practice that deals with professional negligence and clinical negligence etc. I note that you are working as a GP but not on the GMC specialist register as a registered specialist in general practice. I think the GMC will be interested in this as well as the unprofessional expression of extremist opinions not befitting a doctor not to mention historical revisionism. You'll here from my office next week!
51. "America"
Yaron ,   Sacto   (10.30.09)
You speak to much but you don't speak for me or most Americans.
52. Jack #49 not the truth
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (10.30.09)
Our position is totally defensible legally and morally. The only occupation is by the Arabs own Israeli lands. They do not have a single legal claim to anything west of the Jordan. Whereas our claims are enshired in serveral International Laws. That by the way includes the UN Charter. You do not qualify as any part of thinking, because you are so misinformed.
53. Baseless lawsuits
P ,   Philadelphia   (10.30.09)
Baseless lawsuits won't make anyone look good. It's one thing to be anti-semitic, another to be anti-zionist, and another thing yet to be critical of some of Israel's history and current policies. Confuse them and you're deciding to make deeper enemies out of good people than you might like. There are quite a number of people (jews included) who are anti-zionist or critical of some of Israel's behaviour and history. Do you demand that a particular ideology be celebrated or that all of a country's current and past behaviour be excused no matter how outrageous? There is a lot of misinformation, particularly from the early days when Arab and Israeli news sources had blatant disregard for the truth and academic historians were nowhere to be seen. In modern times, many have backed off from the early lies, particularly in academia.
54. #52 Gee is exactly what I'm talking about
Jack ,   Fort Lauderdale, FL   (10.30.09)
You, sir, are precisely the kind of bigoted dogmatist I'm referring to. Your statement that the Palestinians (you referred to them as "Arabs") have no legal claim to "anything west of the Jordan" is totally, laughably, false. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank If all Jews were like you, we'd be on trains right now.
55. 21 Dude and 34 Heather
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor   (10.30.09)
To Dude For healthworkers in Palestinian refugee communities in Lebanon and the Occupied Territories or working for disadvantaged communities the world over, especially in conditions of war and occupation it is very relevant to be aware of International Humanitarian Law. Ask all my colleagues in the International Red Cross or other humanitarian agencies. To Heather, it was Ariel Sharon who devised the plan to send christian phalangists into the camp, even when he knew that they were in a murderous disposition after the assassination of Bashir Gemayel. And above that Sharon accused the PLO of the assassination of Gemayel without one shred of evidence. The culprit arrested later was a Lebanese without connections to the PLO. All this was of course to incite the phalangists. Even when Sharon's chief of staff Eytan was telling how the phalangists were sharpening their knives Sharon did not stop. His objective was to create another Deir Yasin to expel the Palestinian refugees from Lebanon. That's why he was/is a war criminal. The phalangists were the common murderers. Sharon was the architect. In the same way the Israeli army used Cast Lead to terrorize Gaza's civilian population, inflict collective punishment and destroy the economic infrastructure. What bravery of the IDF to massacre a million chickens, sheep and cattle! Actually Sabra/Shatila and Cast Lead is all part of a continuum of terrorizing Palestinian civilians, the pattern of which became established when Zionist forces went on a rampage after November 1947 to expel the civilian population from their homeland Palestine and destroy their villages. As time passes the wealth of evidence that Israel was born out of the expulsion of the indigenous Palestinian population grows ever bigger. See the latest book on this subject by Rosemarie Esber, "Under The Cover of War. The Zionist Expulsion of The Palestinians" (2008). I strongly suspect that those parts of the archives in Israel on 1948/49, which are still not accessible, deal with evidence for the expulsion of the Palestinians and the widespread terror that was used by Zionist forces against Palestinian civilians in that whole process.
56. To number 11
Shadi ,   Leeds   (10.30.09)
Just a piece of useful advice, never post your real details, name and address etc. on talkbacks. I hope you haven't this time and if so don't do it again!
57. #2 Henry
Softwalker ,   Canada   (10.30.09)
Check your facts, Henry. Freedom of the press doesn't include slander or libel.
58. Avi (#14), you are 100% right.
Rick ,   Portland, US   (10.30.09)
Israel and the Jews have too many skeletons in their past. We are learning about it slowly but surely. They would not dare to sue.
59. Ben Alofs
Jack ,   LA   (10.30.09)
wheneevr someone accused us of worngdoing, sue him! Ben Alofs, you're the man.
60. Good Idea!
Christy ,   Boston, US   (10.30.09)
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