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El Al security officer deported from South Africa
Itamar Eichner
Published: 20.11.09, 10:45
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1. These profiling measures makes EL AL the safest airline in t
Trumpeldor ,   eurabyeh   (11.20.09)
All US airlines took El Al as exemple afer 9/11
2. El Al are shamelessly horrid for some passengers.
Harriet the spy. ,   Tel Aviv   (11.20.09)
They have a great track record for having never been hi-jacked or taken out of the sky by terrorists - but the same can be said for Ryanair, Easyjet, Quantas.. for example They really make some visitors to Israel feel like crap before they even arrive in the country. They kept my Jewish grandmother 3 hours for questioning once, she was 87 in a wheelchair. They also stripped to her underwear my cousin in a room at the back of the entrance lounge, who was 12 at the time,searching her for drugs poking and prodding at her as she was crying like a young girl in a foreign land would. Luckily 'on this occasion' the 12 year old was not concealing drugs. Maybe its a mix of the staff playing detective and getting off on the power trip, who knows.
3. Racist?
AJ - Raalte   (11.20.09)
Yes, well, I guess you can call the profiling EL-AL does racist if you wish, I'd call it preventive security measures which happily makes the Israeli airline one of the safest in the world. And what would one call the incessant Arab/Muslim attempts to kill Jews, if not racist? And a lot more dangerous than EL-AL's profiling. I can't believe South-Africa has nothing better to do then whining about EL-AL with all the horrific violence they have going on there, not the least of which are the many torture killings of whites, especially of women who are raped in the most horrendous ways.
4. typical of anti-semitic South Africans
avrahamoff ,   givatayim israel   (11.20.09)
Ever since the end of the Aparteid gov't in 1994, South Africa has taken every opportunity to display its distaste for Israel. Its leaders (including Mandela, yemach shemo) visit, support, and give comfort to mass murders of Jews like Barghouti. That these vermin would do something like this is hardly surprising.
5. Racial profiling
Darren ,   Israel   (11.20.09)
If you dont want to fly EL AL then dont, no one is forcing anyone to. I CHOOSE to fly EL AL because its the safest way and Yes EL AL does use racial profiling because Racial Profiling works. If the USA has used it prior to 911 then the Towers would never have gone down
6. pure racism
Pal. ,   Jerusalem   (11.20.09)
this is a proof of what palestinians and others go through when they travel from tel aviv airport.....this is the proof of humilation, discrimination and racism against everyone who is not jewish... I havesuffeed personally from these measures every time I travel abroad....u get the feeling that only jews r human being in the eyes of those security guards and the rest especially arabs doesn't belong to the world of civilization and should be treated accordingly....this is pure racism
7. I agree with#1 100%
Brian ,   ISRAEL   (11.20.09)
I'm a former US Marine, who was involved with aviation, and El Al is now the only airline I will fly on, not just due to the fact that it's the only one with security, but I feel it has the very best maintenance, safety, service, and highest trained personal, back in the US the people working in airport security, are the very bottom of the barrel, and the policies are just plain dumb. South Africa might just want El Al's piece of the pie, because their airlines can't compete, not to mention most people departing from SA these days don't have return tickets, all one ways to Israel, the US, Australia, and Canada.
8. honestly?
DanielLondon ,   London   (11.20.09)
Do they really think that airline security in every European country and in the US isn't doing exactly the same thing in the background?
9. @ No. 6's pure nonsense!
AJ - Raalte   (11.20.09)
I'm not Jewish and I have no more trouble than Israeli's when flying EL AL. And if you "suffer" so much, why don't you travel to Jordan and fly from there? No Jews in charge - or at all - there!
10. Racial Profiling
Shoshi ,   Jerusalem   (11.20.09)
And if the Americans, including the military, would do racial profiling, they would not have had that incident at Fort Hood
11. To: Harriet at No. 2
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.20.09)
1 - Ryanair, Easyjet and Quantas are not targets for terrorists. El Al is. 2 - I am sorry for your family's terrible experience. However, I would like to point out that someone who does not wish Israel well is not likely to dress up in combat fatigues, boots and and a keffiyeh. They are much more likely to be someone's wheelchair-bound grandmother or a twelve year old child. It has happened. That's why the rigorous airport checks. If it's any comfort, these actions help keep you safe during your stay in Israel.
12. The safest airline bar none.
Hertzel ,   Tveria Israel   (11.20.09)
God bless El Al for using these methds, it works, and it shows that profiling is half the job when you fight terrorist. Hey, face it: 99.8 percent of world terror is done by muslims, therefore look for them to be cleared first, IT ONLY MAKES SENSE!!!
13. Deport all Israeli guards from Turkey!
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (11.20.09)
Israeli guards is a challenge to Turkish sovereignty There are some Israeli guards for synagogues and other many Turkish jewish spots.
14. to # 3 AJ - Raalte
Black man ,   Amsterdam   (11.20.09)
this has nothing to do with how whites are treated and women are raped in south Africa, you silly person. there is no excuse for the humiliation of somebody's race. If you gonna start pointing fingers you might wanna check the israeli Government history on apartheid and how they sold them weapons. I have been humiliated myself at ben gurion simply cause of my race and told them off. I told them to respect me cause I'm a tourist. Silly person!
15. to #4 Avrahamoff
black man ,   Amsterdam   (11.20.09)
Israel's relations with South Africa are different than its interactions with any of its other arms clients. That Israel gave South Africa its nuclear weapons capability underscores the special nature of Tel Aviv's relations with the white minority government and begins to describe it - a full-fledged, if covert, partnership based on the determination of both countries to continue as unrepentant pariahs and to help each other avoid the consequences of their behavior. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/Israel_SAfrica.html
16. Boykott South Africa
Shimshon ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.20.09)
El Al should stop flying to South Africa!! http://www.shimshon9.com
17. Safest airline in the world?
Jame Ellis ,   London - TA   (11.20.09)
Have you seen the food on EL-AL?? Its also possible to dies of thirst during the flight. Security is, and has always be humiliating. Why wont Israel see, and tackle the roots of its problems before the weapons get too big to stop.
18. To Sarah: #11
Shlomo Kamra   (11.20.09)
1. It is spelt QANTAS, and originally stood for Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services. 2. I don't think that stripping 12 year old girls down to their underwear in the back of a lounge is appropriate behaviour and makes the guards look like pedophillic voyeurs. 3. Is it true that El Al cabin crew cannot show their ankle, show movies, fly on Saturdays, or serve a variety of food? I would never ever fly El Al on principle and as part of my boycotts, and find Singapore Airlines and others to be superior. But it is interesting to see Israeli apartheid vs SA apartheid face to face. Who will win?
19. El Al security #3 Racist??
jo moor   (11.20.09)
You are right but with one correction: in SA officially there is no racism anymore - white and black get murdered and raped equally - its just that the criminals have not been given a fair quota - they are almost exclusively black!! Is that racist?
20. And how about Canada
Jackie ,   Florida   (11.20.09)
I am a Jewish grandmother, sometimes wheelchair bound. In an airport in Canada with mostly Muslim security guards and travelling on a Canadian airline I was humiliated by the airport staff and forced to wait while able bodied people were allowed to board first, I had difficulty getting to my seat and storing my onboard luggage. And these were not Israelis. Having gone through El Al security several times, quite frankly I prefer it.
21. #14
Brian ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.20.09)
"respect me because I'm a tourist!" haha and your calling people silly, please say that in the US, and than compare what happens to you, and let me know the results.
22. racial profiling isnt the same as racism
zionist forever   (11.20.09)
Racical profiling is about looking for security risks. Racism is about picking on somebody just because you dont like them over skin colour. I have done security work both in and outside Israel in the past as well as serving in the IDF. Anybody who knows anything about security knows that there are some people who are a possible higher risk than others and so its justified to take a greater interst in them than known lower risk groups. Its a fact that when it comes to Israel 99% of it is carried out by islamic terrorists mainly arab. Its a known fact that in South Africa most violent crime is committed by blacks. They may deny it but I am sure that police officers in South Africa don't keep a closer eye on blacks than whites? So what would be the difference to that and ELAL racial profiling which has gone along way to making it the undisputed safest airline in the world.
23. Racist Arabs
Avi Cohen ,   Tel Aviv   (11.20.09)
...okay, and Arabs that bomb innocent civilians just because the are Jewish is better I suppose. Is that not racism? Fighting fire with fire is the only thing that works when you are dealing with Islamic radicals. Israel gets it, the US is very slowly starting to realize it.... when will Europe and the rest of the Western world finally understand that this is the only way that works. Unfortunate yes, but if its what is necessary to prevent an EL AL jet from slamming into a Tel Aviv building one sunny morning, then so be it. For Israel to change her policies, Muslims must first take an honest look deep within their culture and religion and make a fundamental change.
24. #2 Then by all means, take Ryanair and EasyJet!
Observer ,   but not passive.   (11.20.09)
I have been travelling worldwide with a lot of airlines, including EL-AL and I've never felt especailly bad when flying EL-AL. And EL-AL is NOT Ryanair, Easyjet or Quantas - EL-AL represents Israel and as such is a preferred target for Muslims terrorists and Islamo Leftists fools like yourself! And yes, just like the French, US and UK Police and Special Forces, EL AL security may employ Racial Profiling - what can you do when 99.99% of the terrorists are Muslim? In this case, yes, it is humiliating being singled out just because of your race, but you should thank your own "brothers" for bringing this onto you! Thank Al Qaeda, Fatah and the Red Brigades specifically for bringing terror to the Airports and Airlines. THANK THEM for the increased security! Instead, your racist imbecility, blinded with hatred, points the finger away from you and those whom you support, and towards the victim which is forced to take extraordinary measures at great financial, moral and social costs to protect its citizens against inhuman primitives who would butcher fools like yourself without blinking! So your "story" is a lie, just like your claim to being Jewish. It's an invention to justify your ugly and dishonest post here. You have an ulterior motive Mr. "Spy" and it didn't go unnoticed.
25. Give the Jews of South Africa one year to
jason white ,   afula,israel   (11.20.09)
leave.Or their fate will be in their own hands. Time for Israel to cut ties with so. africa totally. As for gareb, perhaps the Mossad could shut him up for revealing security secrets. Shut up permanently.
26. #15 Hey, you should listen to Mandela once in a while!
White Man   (11.20.09)
... have you heard of the "Reconciliation Day", mister "black man"? Since you are from "Amsterdam", it seems that you haven't gotten rid of your racism against the white people in general and Jews in particular. Been to South Africa a few times (too many IMHO) and driving around I noticed AN AWFUL LOT OF NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS! You can thank the "white man" for that, my friend. Otherwise, all of you in SA would still eat each other into extinction, just as it has been happening in Africa before, during and after the white man colonized it and brought some civilization to the continent. Mandela is a smart man. He decided n ot to antagonize the white minority since he knows too well that without it, SA will plunge into a deluvian bloodbath at the first opportunity. I wonder what will happen when Mandela passes away. Looking at the current ANC corrupt, illiterate and primitive "leadership", I can't say I'm optimistic abut SA's future. So go ahead, hate Israel and the Jews. Meanwhile your own country slides back to the dark ages. And who will help you then? Your ARAB friends?
27. #13 hahaha!
(11.20.09)
And alllow the likes of you butcher the few Jews that still live in Turkey? You must be a fool to even think that! But as usual, racism and hatred takes also the mind. And looking at your Muslim dictators, I bet you're very ugly too!
28. #6 Pure stupidity and hatred!
(11.20.09)
You should thank your brother Arafat for inventing Airline and Airport terror! Since then, ALL terror attacks were made by Arabs and some crazed Leftists! So yes, you are an Arab and as such a suspect. You better fight to change that by fighting AGAINST TERROR instead of complaining about a situation that your own people clreated and blame it on the victim! And next time, do everybody a favor and fly through Jordan!
29. #17 for somebody flying British Airways, you have a nerve...
(11.20.09)
... to complain about FOOD! And yes, you do take care of YOUR problems too, like the heap of hateful and racist crap that you're nurturing North of London. Yes, do take care of that before all of you are engulfed by it and before the green flag of Islamic dictatorship flies on top of the Sain Paul's Great Mosque!
30. ANC=HAMAS
Ro'i ,   South Africa   (11.20.09)
Who are the real racists? The present ANC government would have me arrested or deported just because I am a South African who served in the IDF. Present-day South Africa is more racist than it EVER was under apartheid ... Ask anyone who has lived in pre and post apartheid South Africa and they will tell you the same. And why is the ANC government so racist against Israelis? ... Because a large percentage of them are either self-proclaimed communists/socialists, pagan ancestor worshipers who visit witch doctors or Muslim. They would deport us all if they could.
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