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Swiss voters back ban on minarets in referendum
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Published: 29.11.09, 18:37
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31. Freedom of religion in Switzerland
Arie ,   BaGolan   (11.29.09)
As long as that religion is Christianity! Let us not forget that Christianity REMAINS the OFFICIAL state religion of the Swiss. Explains their willingness to aid the Nazis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion
32. To: Raymond at No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.29.09)
LOL. There was a pack of full-ninja garbed women in Ferragamo's last week, diplomatic spouses and daughters, I suspect, because they had two armed male escorts. They were loud, obnoxious, rude and after having tried on about 50 pairs of shoes each, which they left strewn about, they left without buying anything. I think they win friends and influence people wherever they go. The other American women and I in the store at the time stared in utter disbelief. Ferragamo's is not an Arab souk, after all. With behavior such as that, I think these women will soon find themselves persona non grata in most of the Western world.
33. 19
zionist forever   (11.29.09)
They better buy cuckoo clocks just to remind them that they were cuckoo to think that Switzerland was ready for minarets missiles. Also the muslims still havn't got quite used to modern transport just yet. Plenty of palestinians still go about on a donkey cart. Arabs still love their camals. Gaddaffi of course still lives in a tent and has herds of camels. I hear that he has though bought a luxury villa for Suha Arafat so if thats not backward thinking what is?
34. #33 expect anything from Gaddaffi, he is practically Jew
observer   (11.29.09)
his Jewish mother converted to Islam at the age of 9.
35. #30 ary you sure. I have been----
Ely Greenhut ,   Tzfat Israel   (11.29.09)
traveling in & out of Switzerland for 22 years now & Chasidic Yeshivas & Shuls are doing well there, nobody bothers them & they do not blare for prayers on their loud speakers.
36. 30 , Israeli in Haifa , WRONG
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.29.09)
I suppose that by ICRC you mean the Red cross . Well , the red cross is NOT a Swiss state agency , and the Magen David has been accepted as an egal symbol to the red cross .
37. 30 , Israeli . a mistake by me
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.29.09)
i said that the red Magen David was recognised as a Symbol of the ICRC . No . It's recognised for use in Israel , and may be placed into the Red Crystal by international operations . But the ICRC is only located in Switzerland , not a Swiss Agency .
38. I'm happy with this
Daniel Breslauer ,   Jerusalem   (11.29.09)
Let's see the time when Islamic countries will allow Jews to build synagogues with outer markings, and protect them from attacks. Oh, right, I forgot, Jews cannot live in Islamic countries. I applaud the Swiss decision and fully support it. I have spent more than 6 months of my life in Switzerland, speak the language and know the culture quite well and this only makes me want to go there again. :)
39. Finally a country that will not be bullied by idiots who
follow&push isslum ,   on other nations.   (11.29.09)
40. @nr12
thommy ,   germany   (11.29.09)
and what about the muslims that dont use violence in germany life some million muslims and we dont have terror and murderings how can it be justice if u forbid minarets? how about forbidding church bells?
41. 34 observer
hans ,   stuttgart germany   (11.29.09)
sounds like similar to you
42. Too late, Europe is g
Gimpel the Fool ,   Jhb, S.A.   (11.29.09)
oing to be Islamic in the next half a century! You killed your Jews and got what's coming for you!
43. its like saying horray to the holocaust
tea man ,   marjayoun   (11.29.09)
the talkbackers never cease to amaze me at the joy they showing yesterday they where upset about the funds of the holocaust victims that was siezed by swiss banks today they happy that the same swiss stick it to the m,oslem so the war is not about land its about faith
44. That's it.I'm leaving the USA with obuma as leader&going to
small Switzerland& ,   it's STRONG govt.   (11.29.09)
45. # 32
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
From your lips to God's ears !!
46. #31 - Arie - Swiss aided Nazis because of $$$$
William ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
Not because of Christianity. The same here too when the first sentence of the opposition is about fear of rich Muslims pulling their cash from Suisse banks. The Nazis were against all religion and were building up Nazism and the idea of a master race to be the new religion - much like the Leftist are doing today with their own ideology. The only reason Suisse survived WWII was because it bankrolled Hitler, not because it was neutral. I highly doubt that if Poland or Czechoslovakia announced themselves as "neutral" the outcome would have been affected.
47. I hope that Europe & the West will act accordingly
W. ,   Beirut, Lebanon   (11.29.09)
48. #40 Thommy, again
Johnny ,   Stockholm Sweden   (11.29.09)
Why should we forbid church bells? Christianity do not have doctrinal teachings like these: Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." This is what it all comes down to, and it's not okay. In Europe it is not lawful to incite to murdering people.
49. NOT EXTREMIST OR FAR-RIGHT
Dallas ,   CANADA   (11.29.09)
A nation which will NOT protect its own territory from unchecked immigration is extremist. A nation which will NOT protect its borders will not survive. The media bias is so obvious now as to be laughable. Congratulations to the people of Switzerland. Italy too.
50. #10 TRY 4:30 AM CALL TO PRAYERS
Dallas ,   CANADA   (11.29.09)
and you will see that it's not freedom of religion at all - it is imposition of a religion on others. How rude. Jo to Jerusalem and you will hear the loudpeakers from the minarets at volume 10 with a vengeance. That's not religion - it's brainwashing. Get it??
51. #36 - Charles - You are patently wrong on Red Cross
William ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
They accepted the Magen David Adom symbol only after decades of negotiations (despite accepting the Red Crescent outright years ago). And part of the agreement is this - the Magen David Adom will NOT be allowed to used by the ICRC (despite the Red Crescent having this right). Rather, it will be replaced with the Red Crystal symbol. In my mind, this is still a racist slap in the face as Magen David Adom has always adhered to the highest standards of the ICRC despite Arab terrorists routinely using Red Crescent ambulances and hospitals in terror activities.
52. #40 - Thommy - I challenge your claims
William ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
I was in Essen for a trade show and visited a synagogue for Simhat Torah. What I saw was such heavy security that even as an Israeli/American, I was questioned, scrutinized, and left behind 3 inches of bullet proof glass before I was admitted in. This is the type of security that embassies employ. Why? Because Turkish immigrants in the city - the very same you claim are non-violent, have attacked Jews and the synagogue many times. Death threats were common and getting worse as more immigrants were streaming into Germany. In parallel to this, German-born Muslims who have immigrant parents speak about the hatred they hear at home for Jews, and often were surprised to learn about the Holocaust and meet a Jew - things that were forbidden at home. If you don't see the violence, it doesn't mean it's not there. Either you're willfully blind or in the wrong place.
53. #43 - Those two things are not comparable, you know it
William ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
Comparing Jews/Holocaust with the banning of minerets (not the whole building) is dumb and dis-honest. The way of violence that Muslims have brought to Europe is something that even the Left cannot ignore. The minerets are infact a statement of supremacy. Many Arab leaders and Imams have already admitted this. You cannot compare this to Jews in the Holocaust who were targeted ONLY because they were Jews. They were good citizens, they were part of the community, and many were business owners. The Holocaust was the result of racist hatred, while this law is a response to growing Islamic intolerance throughout Europe. You know it - and I know it.
54. People don't want to lose their country, who can blame them
usa   (11.29.09)
55. zionist forever@ 11 ...We do have referendums but.
James ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
Referendums here ,referendums there..at the end what? The ones who need to follow the same tactic,are obscured by the LEFTISTS. who seem hell bent to oppose it. Jus read that now they are trying to put in a referendum on THE BUILDING FREEZE. I ask you,Netanyahu's job seems to be in the ballance unless the Knesset votes are high enough to counteract the vote to stop building.So you see,we do have referendums,but unlike the courageous Swiss it gets muddled up.
56. Raymond in Washington' 16 Exactly what I poited out
James ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
What I pointed out sometime ago on another forum,plus a true example.i.e A person went into a shop with the full hijab(from head top toe)came out wearing men's shoes must have forgoten(this was witnessed by a shopper in the UK)She thought how funny.BUT FACT REMAINS one does not know who is under that GARB.A terrorist?Quite easily and therein is the BIGGEST danger.
57. #30 Ely? and #31 Arie
Lisa   (11.29.09)
Swiss state agencies like the red Cross? You are kidding... It is the International Red Cross- ever noticed? It started as the Red cross- like it or not- in Christian countries it is the Red Cross- in Israel it is Magen David, in muslim countries it is red crescent- so don't start spreading stupid rumors. and Arie: Switzerland does NOT have a state religion, unlike Israel. Your innuendos about the Nazis is totally out of line and off topic.
58. #31 hey Arie
Rosa   (11.29.09)
you are wrong: Switzerland does not have a state religion. Israel does- Switzerland does not. There are mostly Christian religions in Switzerland, there are also Jews in case you didn't know. Just had to bring in the Nazis too- never miss a low blow. Do you happen to see a connection between the Minaret referendum and the Nazis? NO? I am sure you can come up with one if you really try, LOL.
59. Three Cheers for the Swiss !!
Yisrael ,   Jerusalem, ISRAEL   (11.29.09)
When will be have the balls to ban or at least lower the volume on the call to prayer ! I do not see too many Arabs rushing off to mosque at the best of times, let alone a 4 AM !!
60. Charles#36 - CHECK your facts!
Israeli ,   Haifa   (11.29.09)
The Magen David has been banned! Israel, as well as Hindus are REQUIRED to use the Cross, Crescent of Islam, or some generic symbol. IN FACT..the OFFICIAL name of the agency is the Red Cross Red Crescent! Check their web site. In addition, the site is used as a propaganda arm of the Islamist states. Perhaps you should review the link below (the OFFICIAL Swiss ICRC site! http://icrc.org/eng
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