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Swiss voters back ban on minarets in referendum
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Published: 29.11.09, 18:37
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61. Lisa #57-Actually Switzerland DOES have a State religion
Arie ,   BaGolan   (11.29.09)
Check the following link that identifies Countries with OFFICIAL religions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion As for the swiss and the nazis, the relationship is VERY WELL documented. NO INNUENDO simply a fact! http://us.macmillan.com/unholytrinity
62. To both Rosa and Lisa@??The Swiss do have a religion...
Kate ,   ISRAEL   (11.29.09)
The religion of THE MONNY. YES THEY serve and adore it LIKE IDOLATORS. ALL TUCKED UP IN THEIR VAULTS. Which one day I would like to see where all the Jewish monies have gone after the "HOLOCAUST". That is more to the point,instead of trumping up Arie. He was right.You two?have other ideas To think the world always accused the Jews being MONEY GRABBERS? Well,the Swiss sure have beaten us to THE PUNCH.Don't you girls think?
63. #23, why not? We have plenty of synagogues in Israel.
soludo   (11.29.09)
Switzerland is irrelevant.
64. Actually the voting results are higher published
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (11.29.09)
When deducting the Muslims who voted against the ban, it turns out that the native Swiss voted an overwhelming over 61% in favor
65. Re Swiss Referendum
Marty ,   Toronto Canada   (11.29.09)
Unfortunately, a referendum of this nature will never be held in the UK or the rest of the EU. The non Muslims in the EU are like the lobster in the pot - where the temperature of the pot is increased gradually - so gradually the lobster has no idea it's being cooked alive. By the time the Europeans figure out what they have done to themselves with all of the political correctness, they will be a minority and subject to Sharia law. IMHO serves them right - the decendants of those who perpetrated the Holocaust will soon get exactly what their parents earned for them. Here in Toronto Canada a Muslim woman was overheard at a bus shelter telling an elderly Jewish woman "Soon you will all have to follow our laws". G-d help us all!
66. Islam is such a beautiful thing, why is this islamophobia?
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (11.29.09)
My husband and I attend a mosque and love it. What's wrong of having minarets?Rven our prophet Mohammed PBUH prayed in a minaret shaped mosque.What kind of ignorance is that?
67. Israeli . read my correction !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.29.09)
68. 59
zionist forever   (11.29.09)
I don't think it would be an unreasonable demand tell the government that we don't want muslims being called to prayer in the early hours of the morning when the rest of us are trying to get a little bit of sleep. If somebody came out into the street every morning that time started singing into a microphone attached to very loud speakers the municipality would order him gone because he is creating a distrubance. I really cannot see the logic of early morning calls to prayer in the modern world when there are such things as alarm clocks. If jews want to go pray weekday shacharit they don't have the syngogues calling the faithful to pray if they want to go they will find out what time the services are and set the alarm.
69. Why Islamophobia, just because I cannot wedmy boyfriend
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (11.29.09)
at the corner Mosque, and both of us will be killed if we held hands in Mecca, this is no reason to be an Islamophobe
70. thank you! to the voting people of switzerland
josef ,   Zurich   (11.29.09)
... thats the way to stop the growing islamisation of europe!! Wonder if any other western nations have the same guts.
71. We just democratically voted against further islamization..
Josef ,   Zurich   (11.29.09)
we are not against any religious minorities at all as far as they keep some minimal civilized standards within their ideology. But a religion which promotes; honour killings, forced marriages (even with minors), barbaric law systems (sharia) etc. deserves no recognition in a liberal and social society and democrcy like we have here. For once the peoples votes here slapped the faces of our hypocritical politicians which do not have the guts to face color. If only more countries would have the same electing freedom as we have.
72. Islam Does not Allow Construction of Churches etc.
Fritjof Lilienhammer ,   Copenhagen, Denmark   (11.29.09)
As far as I know, Islamic law does not allow construction of any non-Islamic houses of worship. (Minor remodeling of existing buildings seems to be allowed.) So I suggest that all people who cry racism and discrimination direct their indignation to the Muslim world.
73. you do not need minarettes and moezzins to be a muslim!!!
@ Thommy in Germany ,   Zurich   (11.29.09)
everyone here can practice whatever he likes, muslims lived here also before the vote. Islamization starts with a minarett and a shouting moezzin. Look at your own country and the many muslim getthos in your cities, especially in Berlin where people are already afraid to pass the roads in this quarters. Ever heard any church bells ring in Damascus, Amman, Teheran, Bagdad, Kuala Lumpur etc.???
74. To @72 Lilienhammer Copenhagen.Do the Following:
James ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
Ring your church bells loud and clear.I love church bells no matter where they are.In this 21st century Christians should RING THEM BELLS LOUD,LOVE THE SOUND OF THEM. What is more the people who attend church services do not have to be reminded BY LOUD speakers as muslims do. No need,for their faith is durable,the congregation ready to enter the INNER SANCTUM without outside FANFARE. These islamist ARE SLOWLY BUT SURELY taking over all the European countries and if not careful the rest of the democratic states like the UK,and rest will soon see the troubles multiplying. Better begin NOW before it's too late.None of you need that their CHRISTIAN roots disappear. All of you be careful,it is happening...
75. Well Joseph-Zurich@71 Your advanced and..
James ,   Israel   (11.30.09)
Advanced and clear thinking right wing Government has done just that. Exactly what should have been done ages ago. I read about it a few monts ago,but now it seems it has come to fruition.Thank the Lord. Just sent a post to one of yours,Iam bound to remind anyone here,apart from the Christians,you will not see the same behaviour in Jewish synagogues.It is done inside and with decorum.No loud speakers that wake you up five times a day for their prayers.Funny thing is:We never heard Muslims behave in such a manner a couple of decades ago. At least I have not heard it from my parents,for I would have known about it for sure. Wonder what the mindset of these Islamists are....oh I know...,and you know too don't you????
76. Ther's a thing Observer@34 How can a child?
James ,   Israel   (11.30.09)
A child of 9 be able to convert? I mean a child that age cannot even look after itself properly(if you get my meaning)I just do not believe it.Now if she was 12/13 I can understand.But nine years old?NAH,NAH. Oh, unless she was pushed into it.Like...do this and we'll give you didum,etc etc. In short cajoling and a child did not know the meaning of what it was all about anyway. BUT SHE KNOWS NOW EH? If she is still alive that is.. Whatever the reason Gadafi's children like it or not ARE JEWISH according to the true faith---being JUDAISM
77. More haaretz rejects-now we have Yakuub Sullivan
Arie ,   BaGolan   (11.30.09)
Seems Haaretz finally instituted some quality control in throwing out Anti-Jews even too extreme for them. So they have made a temporary haven here. Sullivan, once a Christian, then a Jew, then a Messianic Jew, now a Muslim housewife, is known for his/her diatribes on sites attacking not just Israel but everything Jewish. http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=90 http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=78 http://www.edexcellence.net/flypaper/index.php/2008/04/the-religious-left/ http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles_of_faith/2008/10/pittsburgh_epis.html http://haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/ResponseDetails.jhtml?resNo=4805508&itemno=1084458&cont=2
78. #43 suddenly you recognize there was one !!!!!
rachel ,   usa   (11.30.09)
79. #77 yes what an idiot , he really needs a shrink
rachel ,   usa   (11.30.09)
80. Europe supreme court
palestinian Sam ,   jerusalem ,palestine   (11.30.09)
Is poised to throw this in the Garbage . Remember that swiss is part of a big country that have a president and a FM now . 3 points in favor of the swiss muslims : 1-Swiss muslims has to work harder in integration One generation away . 2-swiss citizens will start study Islam...We saw that in France ,US ...any time when Islam is being accused .. 3-so what ...who said the Minaret is a must ..Swiss Muslims will remain calm ,smiling ,and believe that racism always lose at the end . Swiss government distanced itself from the whole thing and that means a lot ,opposite to what the hollow talkbacks here analyzing . Swiss muslims will get an: A ...For their reaction today in all the TV interviews (1.5 billions are proud of them ). F ...on integration ...I think the second Generation will do a better job . A for the SVP(the Jan mary lepin of swiss ) indirectly ...for bringing Islam to the center of the debate ,soon will see the German and french translation of the Quran flying off the shelves . And that all we need ,an intelligent dialogue . Historically ,we won all the debates for the last 1430 years .. Islam is a complete system ,not a fairy-tail story . We have few idiots,extremist ..Like everyone else ..They don't run a country like.... Israel .. And they dont form a parliament Majority like..... Switzerland .
81. What to do Arie? I once went to Ramalah with my husband and
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (11.30.09)
the Islamophobes there didn't want to marry us in the Mosque After chasing us into the street the Imam there even sent a few teenagers with red and blue colored fat belts under their jackets, full of sweets to tempt us I presume, who followed us and we ran away afraid of being molested. Can you believe the bigotry of these crusaders?
82. Arie you are the one hateful not me
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (11.30.09)
I was never against Jewish religion just against zionism and oppression of palestinians
83. Further damage Swiss' image? Is that Possible?
Bob ,   Mechanicsburg PA USA   (11.30.09)
The Swiss have been scumbag bankers for quite a long time already. "Wobmann, asked whether the anti-minaret result would damage Switzerland's image and huge financial industry whose clients include wealthy Arab clients in the Middle East. If they did well enough for the Nazi's, they shouldn''t have a problem with some little little Muslims now should they?
84. What people don't understand is
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (11.30.09)
I am not a Christian anymore.I used to be a Catholic and I am a Muslim man now. I am also very progressive gay Marxist who cares about people.I am proud of being a Palestinian freedom fighter. Dah!
85. #77 defending Muslims is not attacking Jews
observer   (11.30.09)
86. The minarets "serve the interests of extremist circles."
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.30.09)
87. ban calling to prayer
f   (11.30.09)
when will there be a ban on calling to prayer in Israel. Anyone living in the Galilee region hasn't gotten a quiet night's sleep over the last few years since the megaphones were introduced in Islam.
88. Sullivan
Dan   (11.30.09)
Happy you can be all this in our Western world and you can express your satisfaction about your multi-faced identity (even if you renounced Christianity). But don't try to emigrate in a Muslim country, and for sure also not in Palestinian Gaza or West Bank. Your life would be in danger.
89. Sullivan:"I was never against Judaism?"
Arie ,   BaGolan   (11.30.09)
That's not what your posts on "realjewnews.com" states. I posted links to YOUR own commentary. They do not lie. Only you do!
90. #32 outrageous racism
London guy ,   London   (11.30.09)
Your comments are those of a completely ignorant racist piece of dreck.
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