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Israel slams Sweden's Jerusalem division plan
Roni Sofer
Published: 01.12.09, 10:47
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1. e. jslm - that's mt. scopus, no?
oferdesade ,   isrtael   (12.01.09)
what would THEY do with a university. they've already bombed it once.
2. probably just another arab ploy...
oferdesade ,   israel   (12.01.09)
... to get their hands on all those human organs we stole and are currently storing at hadassah hospital
3. EU Proposal
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.01.09)
Perhaps Israel could entertain this new Swedish proposal right after the Swedish government divides Stockholm with one-half being the capital of a new country for the indigenous and persecuted Sami people. The Sami in Sweden have their own Parliament. They would like their own country. I think the Swedes should divide their country in half, with one-half given to the Sami, who have wanted a sovereign state of their own for centuries, with Stockholm to be a shared capital. Yep. Works for me. This new Swedish EU head should teach by example using his own country rather than make unrealistic demands that have absolutely no basis in fact or international law upon a sovereign state whose political issues are no concern of his and of whose history he is so clearly ignorant. The Sami, after all, have a far better claim to an independent state than do the Palestinians. I think the Swedes should give it to them. What better way than to carve up their country to create a country for the Sami people -- the archeological evidence proves the Sami presence in Sweden going back seven thousand years. That gives them a far, far better claim than the Palestinians and their made-up history that goes all the way back to what, 1969?
4. Divide Stockholm
Ilana   (12.01.09)
Divide Stockholm-give half to the muslims. Or perhaps to Norway.
5. Israel slamming EU
DT ,   TA Israel   (12.01.09)
Waste if time. Israel should prepare to stand alone. EU has well in excess of 30 million Muslims so it is no different than a troublesome Islamic state except larger
6. DIPLOMATIC ANTI-SEMITISM
Reuven ,   Petach Tikvah. IL   (12.01.09)
Not all, but most comments, concerning Jewish rights in Israel, and in particular Jerusalem ,are the product of an inbuilt anti-Semitism. The desire of all the Islamic nations, supported by radicals of other religions, is to see all Jews in Israel removed entirely. Quite often anti-Israel statements by governments are another manifestation of anti-Semitism this time just clothed in diplomatic jargon. If the Jewish people, instead of being some 13 million in the world, were ten or twenty times that number there would be no problem. It's interesting that the Swedish population is about 9.2 million and the Israeli Jewish population is about 5.6 million. Just compare the Swedish contribution to mankind - past and present - with Israel's Jewish population. Add the remaining 7.4 million Jews in the world and I rest my case - just blatant anti-Semitism.
7. The obvious question,once again:
Keren ,   IL-BR   (12.01.09)
Did Israel ask for 1967 war?No! Did Israel gain the war?Yes So way give back it to the losers??? Why is this absurd in question for 40 years in the first place? Besides,don't the losers have Mecca and the 20 and plus other arab countries to go? Why should Israel decide its destiny based in injustice?Why?Where is it written that we must punish ourselves to please other's sinister obsession with us?
8. For 40 years Jerusalem has been our capital
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.01.09)
for 40 years Jerusalem has been out capital and you have not recognised it. Now suddenly, without the PA even having a presence in the city, you want to recognise it as their capital. Talk a LONG hike!
9. Clever 'pincer movement' from thr EU
Jojo ,   Prt Wash Ny   (12.01.09)
Welcome to Israel. Thanks to you EU, allah's hordes will be flocking in mob like fashion as they usually do. There will probably more fights, killings, intensified hatred every day, all resulting from a 'forced ' marriage. As "coutume " will dictate, you will congratulate , hug, kiss each other, raise a glass of champagne on a job well done. The same type of job you excelled in the past. under different name, place. opponents like in 1879, 1913, 1939. The only constant is, when subdued, as always, "sleep with the enemy". Today you have found a remedy to the problems cited above.---You will send 20-30.000 blue helmets into Israel in order to keep the lid on. You have them in Africa, in Eastern Europe, in the middle East-Lebanon.With the addition of Israel, you will have ALL the trouble spots covered (Europe, the Middle East)and Russia & China left out. Very clever, cunning. No need of the " Charge of the light Brigade "or Napoleon/'s " Grande Armee ", or Hitler's" blitzkrieg ". And from the Hall of Belgium Palace of the EU, peace will finally reign supreme.---No need for the Yankees to intervene.....That is unless the Swiss referendum takes hold in "old Europe".
10. Recall the ambassador
Oren ,   Or Yehuda   (12.01.09)
Hot on the heels of other problems we are having with this country, Israel should recall their ambassador for consultations. Bibi has turned into a pussy cat and Lieberman is too silent
11. This plan is likely to pass and worded close to Roadmap
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (12.01.09)
When this plan is approved in the next few week, then Russia, China and Muslim countries will likely jump on board. The goal in this is the same as the Roadmap but Obama will try wait 2yrs to see if there is progress then support it. Israel has a major fight ahead over the next 2yrs and I am not sure if it can win this one but only limit damage.
12. Israel looks at the world through a mirror.
Mark ,   London   (12.01.09)
13. Jerusalem
Mike Van Harris ,   Antwerp Belgium   (12.01.09)
Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine. Israel has no rights over that city.
14. Note, to this day, over 61 years after Israel was proclaimed
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.01.09)
and accepted into the UN as a member state in good standing none of the European countries have accepted Jerusalem - any part of it, mind you!!! - as Israel's capital. Yet, the very same countries are ready to recognize Jerusalem as the capital city of a state that has not been proclaimed, has not been accepted to the UN as a member state and whose body politics rejects the right of a neighboring UN member state, Israel, the right to exist, against the very Charter of the UN. How far cynicism can still go...??
15. TALKBACK NUMBER 3.
Arn-Orao. ,   Sweden-Srbia.   (12.01.09)
AS I SWEDE I AM ASHAMED !!!. BUT I COULD SUPPORT A DIVIDE OF STOCKHOLM, THE SOUTHERN PART GIVEN TO THE SOCIALISTS, AND, THE NORTHERN TO THE BOURGOISE. IT IS ALREADY DIVIDED LIKE THAT FURTHER - NO THE SAMI IS NOT THE FIRST PEOPLE INHABITING SCANDINAVIA. THE SAMI PEOPLE IS OF TURKISH ORIGIN, AS THE FINNS AND ESTONIANS. THE FIRST INDOEUROPEAN PEOPLE LIVING IN SWEDEN WAS KELTISH - GERMAN, COMING TO SCANDINAVIA IN THE 17th CENTURY B.C.. THE GOTS/ASKENASIM, CAME IN THE 3-4th CENTURY B.C. BEFORE THAT THE PEOPLE OF SCANDINAVIA WAS NOT DESCENDANTS OF, NOAS SONS, SEM, HAM OR JAPHET. GOD BLESS THEE SARAH !!!. Arn-Orao.
16. Sarah enough with the crap!
Wildmandxb ,   M.E.   (12.01.09)
Enough already! everytime you guys have an issue with sweden, there you are, writing crap about the Sami people...for your info, the sami people are happy where they are, they don't want to divide stockholm, neither do they want to be separated from sweden! It amazes me how everytime some leader from any country who comes up with a plan, which is not to your liking, you immediately jump with silly comments about the history of this leader's country! Don't you see what you are doing here? are you trying to distort facts? what exactly are you trying to prove? Palestinians don't have a made up history, they are in fact the indigenous population, while you are literally an immigrant! If someone made up any history here, that would be you, the zionists. People who lived on the land prior to your 'esteemed' arrival have been there for centuries, you're a lawyer, go read history...
17. To nr 8
Mike Van Harris ,   Antwerp Belgium   (12.01.09)
NEVER WAS NEVER IS AND NEVER WILL BE YOUR CAPITAL. KEEP DREAMING.
18. Sweden and Jerusalem
Jim Brown ,   TN USA   (12.01.09)
Didn't the Swede's just man building Minarets in their country? Hmmm.
19. The Swedes Are Clueless
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (12.01.09)
The Swedes have never understood the dynamics of the local environment. The repeatedly prove that they have been living in a cold country for so long that they are starting to think like frozen tundra on a stick.
20. Mike Van Harris, I see you're ready for jihad?
Goldie ,   Croatia   (12.01.09)
When and where can we expect the show of blowing yourself? In theese times of recession fireworks are too expensive for us, so we wolud like to watch it for free? Will you envolve your cousins and children too? Or will it be only them you'll send, like your idols - Arabs from Israel? Why you don't give YOUR capital to the muslims? And isn't it time already to divide Belgium to french, german and that third part? Your own politicians say that lack of identity is a big problem for Belgium? Maybe islamic identity would solve your problems? Change yor flag into green and put a bag on your wife's and daughter's heads? And stone them to death if they take it off? Yeah, "Palestinian state", that's what's world been waiting for. In "Belgium"
21. on Jerusalem
Ilana   (12.01.09)
We know our history and we know palestinians as well. We know you don't know either. Jerusalem is the capital of the Jewish people and of Israel and always was and always will be. This is one thing qwe will never ever give up as has been obvious for over 2000 years. On another note it was the Swiss with the minarets! Muslims can neither steal our religion nor our holy historical sites. Jews came first.
22. To nr 21
Mike Van Harris ,   Antwerp Belgium   (12.01.09)
When Moses brought the jews to Palestine, Jerusalem was allready there. So it was not yours, and never will be.
23. The valley of judgement
Mikha ,   Nai' Kenya   (12.01.09)
The time is fast approaching for all the nations which have scattered the Israelites in foreign countries and divided up Israel to be paid back for their wickedness(Joel: 3)Judah and Jerusalem will be inhabited for ever and the Lord will live on Mount Zion.For all the deeply spiritual; Iand I say Prophecy shall be fulfilled and victory won again and again.Long live zionists.
24. To: No. 15
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.01.09)
I thought that archeological evidence shows the Sami people -- the largest indigenous group in Europe, by the way -- to have inhabited Europe for 9,000 years. I was wrong, and I apologize to all. It seems the archeological evidence to the Sami presence in Scandinavia dates back 10,000 years. Mea culpa. Read here: http://www.samenland.nl/lap_sami_si.html
25. To: No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.01.09)
No, Jim, that was the Swiss. The Swedes are far too cowardly and fearful of their belligerent (and criminal) rapidly-growing Moslem minority.
26. To: No. 13
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.01.09)
Wrong, as usual. Here you go: http://www.globalpolitician.com/24388-israel-jerusalem
27. To Mikha
Mike Van Harris ,   Antwerp Belgium   (12.01.09)
Please stay on your Baboon banana tree. eat a lot of bananas and do not spread the HIV to others. and please do not open your mouth when you do not know history.
28. Mike van Tuchis #22
jb   (12.01.09)
What idiotic crap. Do you have any intelligence or do you always foam at the mouth. Moses didn't bring the Jews to palestine imbecile! There was no Palestine and there was no Jerusalem. The only real Palestine was the British Mandate. The romans created a vassal state called Palestina but it was inhabited by others than those who call themselves "Palestinians". In fact before 1948 it was the Jews who were the ones calling themseves "Palestinians" Your petty and putrid attempts to rewrite histoy shows how your country has fallen down and become just anothe r part of the Caliphate. Got your prayer rug yet??
29. "enough with the crap!" Neither we, the Jewish people, the
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.01.09)
native people of Jerusalem wish to divide the city!!! Jerusalem is a single urban, cultural and spiritual center and the political seat of the state of Israel and of the Jewish people worldwide. Jerusalem also contains important sites of Christianity and Islam and these as well as all Jewish sites in and around the city are open to all for visit and worship. Clearly, the native residents of Jerusalem, the Jews, have no interest in bringing back the days of Arab rule over parts of the city which had been "cleansed" of its Jewish population by then these rulers, and against signed agreements no Jew was permitted to worship any of the sites central to Jewish civilization for over 3,000 years.
30. #Wildmandxb - Thank you very much
Lawrence ,   Israel   (12.01.09)
for making us laugh. Jerusalem has been in Jewish hands for over 3000 years. That is undisputed. As for the Arabs being the indigenous people, that is amusing. They are actually the immigrants. All historians have shown that througout history, it was Jews and Christians who were the majority in Israel. You are a victim of the Arab propaganda machine
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