I STUDIED IN A MISSSIONARY SCHOOL, YOU CANT APPEASE ME ! i KEPT IT ALL BOTTLED UP TILL I OPEN UP TO MY RABBI MORDERCHAI ABERGEL OF SINGAPORE ! I KEPT QUIET COS I MADE A PROMISE TO MY RABBI..TO FOR GIVE YOUR CATHOLICS! YOU CATHOLICS ARE BASTARDS N SO MANY WAYS, I KNOW YOUR VATICAN TRICKS ! I ONLY HAVE ONE TIES WITH THE JESUITS AND LASALLE BROTHERS. I AM STILL ANGRY ! AFTER ALL THIS YEARS !

Pius not only didn't do anything to save Jews, he was a great afmirer of the nazi regime. In the midst of the horror of the Holocaust, their were quite a number Catholic clergy who risked their lives to save Jews; If the Church wishes to make this point, let it honor one of rhem.

he was "forced" to enter the hitler youth; he "didn't know" williamson was a holocaust denier; he "had the church at heart" when he ordered the cover up of child-raping priests. i say if it looks like s***, smells like s*** and tastes like s***, chances are that - having missed the first coupla times - it'll take the first chance it can to stab you in the eye.

you people have no idea what you are saying... anything to discredit Catholicism right? Many many prominent Jews have sttod behind Pius XII... he was responsible for saving over 800,000 Jewish lives... why don't you people write about that? How could he publicy stand up against Nazism and Communism when they both wanted the Vatican wiped off the face of the earth... but you ignorant people will never admit the good things he did... its easier for you to hate and talk crap! get a life, we all know that the atrocities of WW II were brutal but fact is fact and you should know it before you point fingers!

Is that hitler didn't kill all of us. He is a nazi deep down and we know this because he wants to make the killing pope a saint. We see the duplicity in his words and then actions. This pope still hates us for killing his god, stick boy. This is just masked intolerance and open hatred for Jews everywhere.

up his arse. G-d bless Gilad

In France there are more than 60 Chistian clergy who were given the Righteous under the Nations award . I don't know if the vatican has something they can honor one of those who saved Jews ,

It was almost compulsory , and he was aged 6 in 1933 . Regarding Williamson , i have questions about his "ignorance" , not so sure he did'nt know . Child abusers : in what is this related ? But yes , the church covered this with a "nice" silence . I'm always trying to stay objective , in any field .

this pope is not a nice guy. after JP2 (who also isn;t a clean slate), he is at least a coupla steps back, and he's damaging the church and may even create a new trend of anti-liberalism. this is a shame, because sooner or later the church will be so weak in the west that it'll start looking for allies. it won't find them amongst the jews (who are a minority in europe and - let's face it - mostly a lot freer with their morals than other groups); instead it'll go to that other rising religion, who will see i2i with them on aids, darwin, gays, women and - most importantly - are becoming a huger minority in europe (yes, u got it right - the crusades are over) and guess who will pay the price... based on his past, i fear B16's visit to the rome synagogue is not one that will fill him with an inner warmth. (BTW - he was 14 when he was "conscripted" into the hitler youth, 16 when into the airforce and 18 when he finally got up the courage to go AWOL in 1945...)

I think many of you do not understand the nature of the Roman Catholic church. In Ireland we had the English kill us by the tens of thousands for the 'faith', year on year stretching back centuries and never a word out of the Vatican to condemn the bastards. If Rome never stood up for the people it saw as its own against a distant power, how can you seriously expect it to do so for people it did not care about and against a near power like Hitler? Individual priests can be some of the best people to have every lived, but as an organisation the church lacks all compasion. You Jews will get your apology - if you are strong. If you ever get weak again Rome will go back to ignoring your suffering. Keep strong!

letter to the pope telling of the miracles that they pope rallied for during WWII. Since there was not a holocaust....The pope committed a miracle by ignoring the obvious slaughterhouse five activity going on all around Europe. Nutter Butter thinks the pope committed a miracle. He wants to publicly deliver Iran's, and the Muslim world's vote of confidence, in the miracle. Might must have made it right. The Popes final last words. The pope never heard of the word collusion...befriending the enemy...throwing out the little Jew, to his death. For having such a high tower to preach from....the pope sure turned out to be a pussy for Christ.

It is because of those French clergy that I am able to communicate with you today. Whether it was the priest who saved my grandparents or the convent where my mother stayed during WWII, we are thankful for those who rose above the hate that surrounded them. It is generally Jewish groups who have honored and Jewish individuals who have supported those French clergy who risked their lives to save Jews. The vatican was to busy develoing escape routes to South America for war criminals after the war.

pope benedict could show his good intentions, and vindicate pius xii's record, by releasing the names of jewish children, spirited away for "protection" by the catholic church during ww2. releasing the names would be a gesture of goodwill, and not releasing them only confirms the suspicions of skeptics about the true intentions of this "candidate for sainthood" and his successors - it is the difference between saving lives and stealing souls. and it makes the catholic church no different than the other gentile neighbours who helped themselves to the property of the victims - i doubt that "saints" is the correct term!

The only good thing that can be said about pope pius,is, that he did not hinder priests and nuns from saving Jews and Jewish children from the Germans,children were placed in monasteries,after the war,many of those children,by oder of the pope to cardinal Rankely,were not to be returnd to the Jewish People,the church saved their life,so, the church believed it is her duty 'to save their souls'.Instead of urging the 23 millon catholics in Germany to rise up against hitler,and excommunicate the austrian vagabond,the pope did nothing,was it the special tax the German catholics,paid the church,or somthing more cynical,in the long history of the church,the policy toward the Jews was, persecution yes,extermination no,The church believed that after Jesus,the church has become the true'Israel'while those stubborn Jews refused to except that ,did the pope cross the line from persecution to extermination,in order to eliminate the rightful holder to the name ,ISRAEL,the germans were more than willing to play his game.

It is true that the statement that 800,000 Jews were saved by Puis was said by a Jew who had no idea how many Jews were saved or died. However, every major Holocaust historian knows that statement was false. I suggest you read The Catholic Church and the Holocaust, 1930-1965 by Michael Phayer a Roman Catholic scholar who teaches at Marquette. Then give his Pius XII, the Holocaust and the Cold War a read. But that would require you to actually think and stop reading propaganda, perhaps a difficult task.

Gee whiz,most of them are: PAEDOPHILES.I know about them. I hope they did not interfer with you.

Am a bit late,..been at Jpost. So,first there is Carter the bastard, now another doofus trying to make us believe about the sainthood of the German/nazi loving pope? Away with you all who are trying to mend your ways,BUT TOO LATE SORRY.Go and say a few hail MARY'S AND SIN NO MORE.

You have only to look at stastistics . From the estimated 8.8 million Jews 6 were exterminated . 1.5 million were in USSR non occupied zones . This leaves us with an estimated 1.3 million survivors . Many of them had fled outside Europe . In Bulgaria the Jews were saved by the governement and King who opposed the nazi politics regarding them . So finally , if we believe this number given by Dino , the pope has saved ALL the surviving Jews . That's ridicule . [ numbers : Jewish virtual library , Holocaust - victims ]

You want to insunuate that we , Jews who WERE hidden and SAVED by Catholic priests and institutions , should blame them for this ? should deny it ? . Regarding Pius XII , he was NOT german , and as far as known the actual pope was NOT a nazi .

that Ratzinger was a member of an nazi youth movement at six , and that it was almost compulsory too . i have written it more than once in tb's , did'nt receive reactions . But now i don't find it anymore .

Quite a few good Christians who helped Jews.But,their numbers were far too small. Some in Poland did,but there again only the best and just helped.(FEW) The majority failed did not care because they were jealous of the Jews.Saw it in an interview at the BBC(of all places) and they were quite open about their feelings. On returning to Romania( believe) told by a lady in tel-Aviv the residents said:Oh are you still around?I thought you were all GONE. What does this tell most of us who the know the real reason. As for Pope Pius the 12th: I read differently because not only did collude with Nazi Germany,but by also helping Nazis escape and giving them SANCTUARY. Another country who were just as bad on giving sanctuary to the Nazis and helped the Nazis escape,were the "THE TRAPIST MONKS"in Ireland. Let us not be too forgiving on these lot. They have much to apologize for,and I am not naive enough to swallow it hook,line and sinker sorry.

I am a Catholic, maybe not the best practicing Catholic but I am a believer. I have a very hard time trying to understand your (Jewish people's) mentality. You have soo many allegations and false comments that are filled with hate and I find this irresponsible. Maybe its because I am not Jewish but I like to learn about history and politics... the one thing I always recognize when I come to one of these sites is the level of one sided opinions! Why? Why do your people always make false claims, always cry foul for everything... absolutely everything... do you think that as a Catholic I should feel shame for something? My parents (from Eastern Europe) told me many stories about how Jewish people were saved by civilian families... from people who received this direction from their local priest... from the local Cardinal, but I have never ever seen a positive comment from a single Jewish person on this site or any other...Why do you continue to discredit honest people who tried to make a difference in this world? Your version of what happened is convenient to you... because thats what you want to believe... because you are all victims! Many of my people were literally slaughtered in the 90's but we never discredit those that tried to help... or say they didn't offer any help, although some of the atrocities were witness by UN peacekeepers and nothing was done to stop it! I have read much about WW II and there are soo many versions of what happened... it depends what you read and why people have an opinion on what happened... Jews were treated terribly... so were Slavs and Gypsies but many many good people tried their best to save lives even sometimes putting their own at risk! Pius XII was one of them, whether you want to believe it or not its the version you choose to believe! As for todays Pope... I don't know much about why or how he was a Nazi but what I will say is my parents and their family were Catholics and not Communists but during those times in that country you had to be in the Communist Party or else you had major problems... maybe this is similar...I don't know! Look at some of your own people and their decisions and tell me if they have committed major crimes against humanity or if you are all without sin!

We are unable to go that far back in regards to Ireland. All we have is what happened fairly recently and the violence by both sides. It was like people not realizing that everyone was connected.

Quite a few good Christians ......You wrote . What's a few ? There are more than 20,000 Righteous amongst the Nation . More than 6000 in Poland [ where the death penalty was the punishment for hiding Jews ! ] Who you help someone when you and your family could be killed ? And don't forget , for every hidden Jew there was more than one person involved , and here i know , my personal experience , about what i'm talking . I'm not here to excuse those who did'nt help , but i can't accuse them either . Most of those who did'nt help were indifferent , or had their own problems . Those who were jealous , they often collaborated and betrayed Jews . Regarding the then pope , yes , he did'nt say anything publicly , yes the vatican helped and/or organised escape routes for nazi criminals to south America , yes , in some case church clergy did'nt return Jewish children to their surviving family members . This all is not enough to accuse the whole church , only those who were guilty .

Had Ynet done so you would have had a better perspective in my explanations on the Catholic Church and its attitude.All from the horses mouth,and my knowledge of them. The Catholic Church is now much milder in their views,because of their dwindling congregations. Before,their sermons by their priests were cringe making.But that is another story. By the way,of course the rest were afraid..Well,weren't the ones who did help also afraid?and yet they put their life on the line to help.That takes great courage,and a strong character. The rest who were afraid didn't give a damn sorry.Very much anti-Jews. Incidently why were the majority of the concentration camps built in Poland? I have wondered about that.Have you? The most famous man in Poland was Janusz Korczak ,who went to the concentration camp along with the Jewish children he taught.Now this I CALL REAL BRAVERY.And putting one's life for the good. But,in the majority they did not CARE Charles my dear.The Poles hated Jews still do. You also omitted the equally guilty Irish. Who's TRAPPIST MONKS helped the Nazis escape,giving them sanctuary. The worse of the worse of them who ended up In South America (Argentina et al) There dear man is some of what I wrote to Dino Domingo but more in depth.

I have'nt wondered at all that the nazi camps werre set up in Poland . You know why ? because of logistics . There were the most Jews in Poland and vicinity , so less transport expenses [ the gestapo had to pay the "deutsche reichsbahn" ! ] That was the main reason . Regarding bravery : would you risk your life , and this of your family , to save a stranger ? Would you fight , as Mordechai Anilewitz and others did , knowing the enemy is thousand times stronger ? I lived the Shoa , survived thanks to the many who helped us , thanks to all those , knowing we were Jews and wanted , did'nt betray us , even if they could earn some money by denouncing us . There was a traitor too , he denounced my father . But do you know that there were jewish traitors too , who denounced their "brethren" . Regarding irish monks , not so important in the general issue here , as they were not alone to do it .

I was not aware of course.My family did not go through the Shoa thank G*D. However my grandpa had 8 brothers.One of them lived in Paris.Because they had lost touch we don't know if he survived. Bet you he idid not,unless the free french rescued him? We also had family in Italy.There too lost touch and my mum,nor my grandma can help. The italian ones were called " CHITONE" once I saw a reponder at haaretz with this name. Chased it all over with no success. Even went on the internet,found one telephoned,but in vain. That is what happened with most families,and only few survived. Were I in my elders place I would move heaven & earth to find out. But did you read about about Janusz Korczak , inspite of the offers the germans made to him stay and not go to the concentratiion camp,with the children, not once but thrice HE REFUSED. What a sad and horried /stories we Jews have had to endure. G*D bless you dear Charles and don't take it amiss at what I wrote. After all we are on the same side,and not strangers.