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Steinitz: Israel can do without US economic aid
Roni Sofer
Published: 10.01.10, 11:09
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61. American Aid
Alf   (01.10.10)
Without American aid you couldn't spend the untold billions building settlements and then billions more to satisfy the evacuees when these settlements are innevitably given up. We can't do without American aid but we could do very well without Mr. Steinitz
62. Money vs. freedom of choice
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.10.10)
1. << to smuggle rockets to Israel. >> ?? To smuggle rockets to *attack* Israel, perhaps? 2. One hopes that these are not just words and that our government will stand against money for surrender.
63. Wake up America
Marlene N. ,   New York City   (01.10.10)
Yes, please, stop giving aid to Israel..who has always been an ingrate for the assistance it has received. Better give it to the people in this country who have lost their jobs and their homes. Israel has always had this arrogant attitude that it can do as it pleases without accountability to anyone because it reigns supreme. (That kind of attitude sounds "vaguely" familiar)
64. Americans want to save money?
rebecca ,   Modiin   (01.10.10)
Shut of aid to the PA, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Peace Now, Betslehem etc. Stop funding the UN which treats you like dirt. You'll save a lot more that way than by cutting off the small amount that comes Israel's way.
65. Works for me
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.10.10)
So Israel will put back the weapons deal it negotiated with the Chinese -- $18 billion -- and the one negotiated with the Republic of Georgia -- $7 billion -- both of which were withdrawn at the request of the United States. With $25 billion in its Treasury, the United States can takes its $2.8 billion and shove it right alongisde its demands that Israel "negotiate" with a people who are devoted to the destruction of the State of Israel and the extermination and/or expulsion of the Jewish people. The United States gets to keep $2.8 billion, Israel earns $25 billion and will not negotiate "peace" with an entity that refuses to renounce its charter calling for the destruction of the State of Israel and also refuses to recognize the right of the State of Israel to exist in its ancient homeland. Sounds pretty good to me. The United States can just go right on ahead and cultivate its great good friends the Saudis, the Egyptians and the Jordanians. Really dependable allies, I must say.
66. the victim
sean ,   manhattan,ks   (01.10.10)
it is obvious that isreal is active in the classic victim/abuse cycle and will never find peace because it is to buzy defending the right to stay wounded.
67. I guess we can throw...
Mike M. ,   Seattle Wa.   (01.10.10)
"God Bless America" right out the window. Will it now be "God bring nuclear judgement to America"? Aside from Israel it would be well deserved.
68. USA aid is illegal
Sue   (01.10.10)
Under the US Symington Amendment of 1976 it is illegal for the US to send aid to countries that have nuclear facilities which are not signatories of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty. Never mind the US not sending these loans, the US should make Israel pay back the billions it has received illegally
69. # 65 Monkey
(01.10.10)
Let Israel be weaned off of American loan guarantees, financial aid, political support, etc,etc,etc. Let Israel finally become an independent state and not a monkey on the back of the American taxpayer.
70. We have moved on
D ,   Israel   (01.10.10)
We are a much more diversified economy these days. We have strong ties to the east and are leading the Hi-Tech world. Much of the western world relies on our medical and scientific advances. The economy is one of the best in the world as opposed to the US. If economic partnership began to break down between the US and Israel, it is the US that would suffer. This is fact over looked by those Israelis striving to be more Western than Israeli.
71. to #59 in 73 the situation was the same
ghostq   (01.10.10)
and USA didn't brought any aid most of the airplaned were Russian. go look it up, so as you see Israel can so so well without USA, and off course you can say thank you to Mitchel and co. the messed up so many things what is another one. and you look for easy way out to complex situation need complex long solution, unless you got ego that think you know better and do things over night which will hold for one night.
72. 61
zionist forever   (01.10.10)
The US does not and never has given money that is used for settlement construction. Israel get very little in financial aid these days, Obama recently committed around $900 million cash hand out to the palestinians. Israel gets nothing like $900 million in cash and never has. Loan guarantees are not cash in hand they are exactly what they sound like guarantees that the US will pay Israels debt if it defults payment allowing it to get better deals when borrowing and Israel does pays its debts so its not costing the US anything. As for military aid the US arms companies would be lobbying Obama would be hurting US business & the economy if he threatened to use military aid as some kind of sanction. These contracts with Israel are worth billions to these companies and to the US economy. What the US gives through aid is just a subsidy kind of 2 for the price of 1 most Israels weaponry bought in the US comes from the pockets of Israeli taxpayers. So the US has much more to loose by using military aid as some kind of punishment than Israel does. Sucessive governments have talked about a desire to end military aid because there are so many string attached. If the US is no longer proving reliable then it might just happen at last & the US will loose alot of business because Israel would be free to shop elsewhere for the best products at the best prices they would no longer be obligated to buy Made in America and that woul cost alot of American jobs. The US would loose alot of political muscle they currently have..
73. AMERICAN needs the Israeli satalite
ghostq   (01.10.10)
to look at the area. but I guess she won't anymore. :)
74. to #65 thank you for the info oh wise one.
ghostq   (01.10.10)
now Israel got new buyers, the russian got preaty deep pockets, and they r the only one who can stop Iran. yes finally some progress.
75. Re: My post at No. 65
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.10.10)
For "$2.8 billion" in paragraphs 2 and 3, please read "$2.2 billion." Mea culpa. Apologies to all.
76. Sue, illegality, and ignorance
Christopher ,   Boston, MASS   (01.10.10)
Before you exose your ignorance to the world..oops you already have...perhaps you should read the law prior to parroting the usual falsehoods from neo-Nazi websites!
77. Israel Can Do With USA Aid
SLJ ,   Cincinnati, USA   (01.10.10)
Good for Israel. I'm on their side.
78. hay ... all of you.. the money is not the idea
saher   (01.10.10)
it's will begin with aid and end with security council when america vote in favor palestinians
79. US should suspend all aid to Israel
American Voter   (01.10.10)
it should suspend all aid and abstain from all votes in the UN concerning Israel. Only then will Israelis learn the harsh lesson that they should have been taught many years ago.
80. Thank You Sarah
Jeff ,   Toronto   (01.10.10)
Im a big fan of your posts. Excellent and to the point and true.
81. Guys, we are broke as hell, we need the money ourselves
Miami, USA   (01.10.10)
We owe like 800 billion or whatever to China, unemployment is really at 20% not 10% as we report it officially. Our deficit is sky high, we are broke, we need to pay for Obama care, etc but we can't publicaly admit to all that, so we gotta try to make it look good. no hard feelings eh?
82. ha ha
jj   (01.10.10)
i love reading the "we can do without america" comments.
83. Mitchell ruined baseball and the peace process
Al ,   Wilkes-Barre   (01.10.10)
Mitchell, who is an arab, is certainly a bad man to have as a mediator, He ruined major league baseball and now he wants to ruin Israel. That's two strikes. Three strikes you're out.
84. Chanya, I sent your message to President Obama...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.10.10)
...it's time the loud-mouthed little rogue country stand on its own. Good luck with that. As the average Americans are getting more and more aware of what you folks are all about, pretty soon you will get your fervent wish. You will be isolated and alone. If not for the United States, there would be no Israel. It's time you and yours are forcefully reminded of this fact.
85. "noodles", Israel was created in 1948, not before...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.10.10)
...on the other hand, the United States declared it's independence in 1776, not before. Oh, and your moniker fits you nicely.
86. 3 Billion...
mat ,   telaviv   (01.10.10)
The Chinese would be happy to pay much more than that for our technology per year plus a veto at the UN. Israel shouldnt be bullied and should be treated with some respect, if Obama continues his stupididty he wont win another election.
87. Not a peep about the others getting aid
avi ,   U.S.   (01.10.10)
Notice that there's not one peep about all the other US allies getting aid - only Israel. Our "good" Arab friends pretty much openly support terrorists and we can't stop running to give them $$. What do we get in return? Dead and wounded American Soldiers and Airplane bombers. But Israel who gives us invaluable technology and must spend the money on American products is bashed.
88. doing well without them? aren't you afraid of losing Torah?
observer   (01.10.10)
it is ein kemach, ein Torah; NOT ein Torah, ein kemach
89. Instead of aid occupy saudi oilfields
Bernard Ross ,   st anns bay, jamaica   (01.10.10)
It is neither far nor far fetched. The fields are run by foreign workers. Who, other than those already at war with israel, would attack Israel? As long as the flow is stable no one will really care. The oil is needed as reparations for saudi terror financing. Israel can be full independent with energy and natural resources(uranium) accounted for.
90. Sue, that's where "ambiguity" came in...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.10.10)
...it's been agreed that Israel does not admit to having nukes, and therefore the US does not have to treat it as if it has nukes. If Israel openly declares its nukes, or even if the US admits its knowledge of Israel's nukes, then you will be right, the aid will be illegal. It's all currently a convenient legal and diplomatic fiction. But every once in a while, a little daylight flushes these things out.
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