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Vatican: Israeli occupation foments Mideast conflicts
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Published: 20.01.10, 10:17
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1. NO, ignorant jacka_s - external Arab conflicts fuel Pal BS
5th generation ,   Israel   (01.20.10)
Otherwise most would still be living in their original countries instead of pouring into Israel and squatting, and they wouldn't have a millenia-long history of killing each other. I'll bet you're disappointed you missed out on the Spanish Inquisition, aren't you?
2. Sorry pals, something else is driving you
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (01.20.10)
Return of the Jews and re-establishment of the Jewish State in the Land of Israel defeats your thousand years old lie about cursed people who didn't accept your idol. The whole notion of Vatican as the successor of chosen people is nothing but hot air.
3. What was the vatican's reaction in 67 ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.20.10)
When we were the "weak" country ? What did they say when we were attaked on Yom Kippour in 1973 ? Do they forget that we were ATTACKED on both an all other occasions ? and as a result we gave FREE acces to the Christian's "holy" sites to all peacefull people ? Do they forget that Christians of all denominations are FREE to worship their religion ? tthat they may have churches here ? That their bookshops are NOT set ablaze as in gaza ? That the bishops of this region are Arabs too ? that one of them transported weapons on behalf of terrorist organisations ? So , look at the other before blaming Israel .
4. Blame Islamic radicalism for all this,
Janice Cohen ,   Jerusalem Israel   (01.20.10)
5. This Pope is working as an insidious very poisonous snake
Keren ,   IL-BR   (01.20.10)
as always Church did. He is just awakening the dorment seeds Church has sown throughout the centuries. He is doing this job steadily and with precision. The return of Tridentine mass;his recent speeches;his previous encounter with Bush and the conversion of Blair to Roman Catholic Church,just few days before war was launched in Iraq,heralding a Catholic occupation in that country...,even his latter visit to the sinagogue in Rome,all show Popes direction. Signs of antisemitism are not a misterious event comming from nothing.They have been worked on in a very conscient manner,eIther by Church and Arabs . Just for note: "Pope said the decades-old Israeli-Palestinian conflict had been "exploited" by radical terrorism in recent years." He is cynicaly wrong.The correct is:radical terrorism has explored and constructed the Israeli -Palestinian conflict.And I would include the Church among these so called radical terrorists.Church is no different.
6. And what was the situation like before the "occupation"?
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (01.20.10)
Was there peace in the region? Was there a willingness on the part of the Arabs, Palestinian and otherwise, to accept Israel's right to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people? Of course not! The Arabs set out to annihilate Israel in 1948, 1967, 1973 and to this very day none of the Arab leaders is willing to accept Israel's right to exist as the national home of the Jewish people, based on League of Nations and United Nations resolutions and the universally accepted right of all peoples to national self-determination and independence. Perhaps this refusal to accept the right of a singled out people, the Jewish people, to exercise its universally accepted right it the source of evil in the region...??
7. # 5 Armageddon & u
Ian   (01.20.10)
8. Israel won fair and square.
vered ,   israel   (01.20.10)
Israel started out as the weaker country, survivors of the Holocaust with no place to go. In numbers, Israel can still be considered the weaker. As far as the Christians, the whole world is their playground; how dare they complain about Israel. The Pope still doesn't get it, does he?
9. The Pope's remarks
Robert ,   Brisbane, Australia   (01.20.10)
How dare the Pope consider that in anyone's wildest dreams Israel is in any way minutely responsible for the strife in the middle east. Doesn't he know that Israel is perfect in every way?
10. THE POPE IS RIGHT
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (01.20.10)
Occupation sucks ,which is why the holy Torah commanded us to conquer the land of Israel and evict the cannanites .EVICT THEM as in boot them out. But secular zionists knew better. "They will be a thorn in your eyes."
11. Punks 1 through 4
Marco ,   Spain   (01.20.10)
If not for christian charity and aid to this illegal Jeiwsh state, you punks would be seeking shelter today in Siberia.
12. Marco = illegitamate, not Israel
Brother Joe ,   Bensonhurst N.Y.   (01.20.10)
13. Hitler: (remaining Jews)_ understand why it was done
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14. Israel is not occupying Palestinian land.
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (01.20.10)
Israel is occupying Jewish land. Look it up....
15. What about Christians?
Yoni R. ,   Modiin, Israel   (01.20.10)
The document states: "Violence is in the hands of the strong and weak alike, the latter resorting to whatever violence is within reach in order to be free." If this is true, then why hasn't the persecuted Christian minority resorted to violence?
16. the pope should stick to prayer not international politics
zionist forever   (01.20.10)
VIOLENCE IS IN THE HANDS OF THE STRONG AND WEAK ALIKE, THE LATTER RESORTING TO WHATEVER VIOLENCE IS WITHIN REACH IN ORDER TO BE FREE So now we basically have the pope saying on the record that palestinian terrorists carry out suicde bombings and fire rockets at civilians so they can be free of so called occupation and these are the only methods of violence they have avalible to them. As the pope is so concerned about christians why doesn't he condemn the fact that since Israel handed Bathleham over to the PA as part of the peace process the muslims have been intimidating the christians and driving them out. Thats Israels fault though isn't it? The pope doesn't recognize Israeli soverignty over Jerusalem and wants it internationalized and for Vatican to play a role in its running. So under the pope who was once a member of the Hitler Youth and wants to make Pius second into a saint he wants to play a part in Israel bashing international politics.
17. pope contradicts himself in the same speech
zionist forever   (01.20.10)
He says that " Violence is in the hands of the hands of the strong and the weak alike, the latter resorting to whatever violence is within reach in order to be free " He later says how he is how worried he is about political islam exploited by radical terrorism. So on one hand the muslims are must be political and use whatever violence they have within reach to be free. On the other hand he worries about political islam and terror. He can't have it both ways either he supports political islam & terror so the palestinians can be free. Or he is against all forms of political islam & terror in which case the palestinians should not be fighting Israel.
18. PROPHETS TEACH THAT ROME WILL SIDE WITH YISHAMEL
.......DACON9   (01.20.10)
THE GREAT WAR HAS BEGUN STARTED 9/11 ROME BRINGS US TO THE NEXT CHAPTER THE LAST CHAPTER IS ONLY THE FEW ARABS AND XTIANS THAT RECOGNIZE THE 'ONE GD OF ISRAEL'' with none other,not an idol or a 'son' WILL SURVIVE IN THE END, only the rightous few....... YOU TO ISRAELIS YOU ALSO HAVE TO WORRY. WHO ARE *YOU SERVING?
19. RABBIS SAY WHEN THE WORLD IS UPSIDE DOWN..
.......DACON9   (01.20.10)
RABBIS SAY WHEN THE WORLD IS UPSIDE DOWN.. its a sign of the arrival ofmashiach very soon. obama bows to saudia arabi a. rabbi bow to the poop. ehud baraK bowS to his image in the mirror. bibi bows to disney world from confusion who to appease. WHO IS BOWING TO THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL?
20. Israeli charities cashes in on Palestinian Suffering
Lebanese ,   beirut, lebanon   (01.20.10)
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143864.html
21. IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST MY LORD -
Arn-Orao. ,   Sweden-Srbia.   (01.20.10)
I SAY TO THE VATICAN - "GO TO HELL", ACCORDING TO THE WORDS IN THE NEW RESTAMENT ABOUT YOU !!!. Vatican: Israeli occupation foments Mideast conflicts Internal document to be used as guide for upcoming meeting of Mideast bishops reads, 'Violence is in the hands of the strong and weak alike, the latter resorting to whatever violence is within reach in order to be free' THE ROMAN CHATOLIC SO CALLED CHURCH, WHO SHE IS NOT, BUT CALLED, "THE GREAT HARLOT", IN, "THE REVELATION OF JOHN", IN THE NEW RESTAMENT, WILL BE BURNED BY THE POLITICAL POWERS OF EU. REVELATION CHAP. 17. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+17&version=KJ21 AND THE JUDGMENT OF ROME, IS IN CHAPTER 18. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+18&version=KJ21 THE TOWN OF ROM AND THE ROMAN CHATOLIC CHURCH ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE. Arn-Orao.
22. vatican
alan ,   johannesburg S.A   (01.20.10)
here we go again !! it is always the little jews fault. it is always the easy way out to blame somebody else. the truth is that everyone is responsible for there own actions. well mister pope have alook at the mess the church has created in the last 2000 yearsbut i suppose it is someone elses fault.
23. Fatah/Hamas Leaders cash in on Palestinian Suffering
Marco ,   Spain   (01.20.10)
in Swiss Bank Accounts worth many billions of dollars, and having opulent lifestyles
24. Same old tricks
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.20.10)
The Christian stance towards Jews, sounds like something right out of a leftist college newspaper. The Christian religion which owes it's very soul to Jews has decided that God's blessings from the Bible is obsolete, and that historical Jewish ownership and connection for 3,500 years is irrelevant. It seems like the Church is still in the business of doing all it can to foster conflict, distort reality to their twisted interpretation of God's Will, all the while ignoring the Biblical truths that Jesus the Jew never separated himself from.
25. #6 Nice one Eitan!
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (01.20.10)
26. A Message to Ratzinger
A. Calpurnius Piso ,   Rome   (01.20.10)
Go eat some bratwurst with Sauerkraut and drink some beer, listen to an Oompah Band and then go to the John and take a long and healthy bowel movement, then you won't be so full of crap
27. 1650 years late. Church has been vociferous in seeking Jews'
Miriam Joseph ,   Tiberias Israel   (01.20.10)
exile. Go back to the unchristlike church with its systemic issues with pedophilia homosexuality, anti semitism that fueled the European holocaust and Christian anti semitism, and as important, corrupted the message of Jesus to the world. Instead, 3-500 years after Jesus and his witnesses lived, it became a Romanized, paganized doctrine closer to Rome, paganism and non-Jesus ethics, than to Judaism, the religion of Jesus the rabbi and prophet.
28. ARAB OCCUPATION of Judea must end! (As for morrocco, tunisia
Jae ,   Lynn US   (01.20.10)
algeria, libya, sudan, somalia, syria, lebanon, etc etc. thats up to those berbers allowites and other natives of the land. but for jews our land must be no longer occupied by peoples non loyal to jews.
29. Eitan, Jewish terror reigned before the occupations...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.20.10)
...that is the model that the Arab Palestinians learned from. And that crap about the Palestinians accepting Israel? Get TF over it. That was a done deal decades ago, even Bill Clinton was there. The freaking denial in Israel is simply amazing. Does anyone over there ever tell the truth? Judaism is not the evil in the region, Israeli greed for stolen land and resources is. Everyone knows this but the Israelis, but the other shoe is going to drop, and drop hard. Israel cannot continue to lie to the world anymore with that "light unto nations" crap and the "IDF is the most moral army in the world" crap. It's all bullshit, the whole world knows it, it's time Israel was forcefully made aware of it.
30. Charles, Petach Tikva is abosolutely to the point
Benjamin ,   Singapore   (01.20.10)
Yes, Israel gave alot of AIR Space and Land rights to the Catholic/Protestants/xtians etc. In the end the underground terror movements end up getting support from the churches. The Churchs BETRAYED ISRAEL. THEY BETRAY ALL THOSE WHO FAUGHT THE YOM KIPPUR WAR. TRUE ....I say it is TRUE !
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