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UK: Passport defrauding a very serious issue
Roni Sofer
Published: 17.02.10, 23:25
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61. #31 OK Sherlock
Cynthia ,   USA   (02.18.10)
It's funny to watch lonely talkbackers like you get excited over their fantasy Mossad caper. So far there is no evidence connecting the Mossad to this assassination. If you have some evidence, post it. But don't expect Israel to be held accountable because you kinda, sorta hope they did it.
62. to #54 hahaha he does use yellow
ghostq   (02.18.10)
journalism alot. seems he doesn't like his own reflection.
63. to #55 wrong Shamir wasn't involved in killing
ghostq   (02.18.10)
of unarmed arabs, all the tragets were against political figures, unlike the Egyptian Arafat and chabash who actually killed innocent unarmed Israeli civilians. go check it Idare you.
64. #32 - That's pretty circumstantial
William ,   Israel   (02.18.10)
So circumstantial that it holds as much water as the accusations that IDF stole organs in Haiti. 1) NO Israeli can enter the country on a foreign passport. It's illegal. However, the UK/Ireland and every EU country they passed through does have the UK passport information. 2) NO Palestinians group could get the information? Do you think they are some isolated pocket of "resistance" fighters in the hills of Judea eating rice and falafel on rugs? Idiot - the PA is known to have ties with several militia groups in Europe including the IRA. They trained with them in the past. According to your logic, the UK is more than guilty, and considering they look a bit Anglo, one could argue these are mercenaries for hire from the defunct IRA.
65. #31 - Israels scrambling? To where?
William ,   Israel   (02.18.10)
I haven't seen anyone in Israel scramble. Infact, they seem relaxed and quite tight lipped despite being "summoned" by the Brits. You have no proof it was Israel except a few tabloids, Hamas' accusations, and your own personal hatred. But I agree with you - I really want the UAE, UK (which is also Britain), etc. to pursue investigations and show the real culprits. My guess is it goes back to Iran and the "pals" caught in Jordan.
66. #49 - "Even Iran didn't use UK, EU passports"
William ,   Israel   (02.18.10)
And what evidence do you have to back up that little tidbit? Because you didn't read about it in The Guardian? Are you a massive retard?? There is NO evidence, except your own opinion, that it is Israel. None. Not even the Arab investigators, who do not love Israel, made the accusations that Hamas and the EU are making. You make one good point - Israel is already not popular in EU public opinion....in other words, the EU is all too willing to accept Israel as guilty based on their own opinions, not justice or fact. Israel's reputation has been slandered for decades. Major headlines splash accusations of massacres or war crimes, only to have them retracted in small print on page 5. This isn't new. What is important, and people are either too lazy or too racist to consider it, is that this guy was forced by Hamas to interview on Al-Jazeera, he came with NO security detail, and Hamas made no mention to UAE that he was in the country. Also, the "palestinians" extradicted by Jordan were seen talking to the "assassins". Seems like a complete false-flag operation that I hope is uncovered and the culprits severely punished. And in this instance, when Israel has been vindicated, will anyone apologize or offer restitution for the witch hunt? NO, it'll be a 1-sentence statement on page 5, again.
67. #55 - The world will understand Pal emigration?
William ,   Israel   (02.18.10)
Because if the Arabs import those weapons into the West Bank, they'll see themselves across the Jordan River in less than a day. Hamas didn't fight the IDF, they withdrew in an effort to make peace happen (and prove the "pals" are terrorists when they destroy Gaza, as they did). Hizbullah didn't force Israel from S. Lebanon, it was Barak cracking under the force of 3000 mothers who wanted their sons home no matter what. Barak honestly believed that if he withdrew to the Blue Line, the world would demand Hizbullah disarm, Syria would make peace, and the peace process with the "pals" would continue. Both Nasrallah and Arafat proved him wrong...because they are Arabs, not Westerners. Regarding Begin and Shamir - they were able to do one thing that Arafat and Habash never could....take off the military uniform and make peace as a diplomat, which they both did. None of the Arab terrorists have ever been able to, or willing to, make that switch. The difference between great men and terrorists is the ability to change. Many leaders in history could be considered murderers, despite their great actions later in life. And others are just scum like Arafat.
68. #53 - I also remember botched MI6 ops
William ,   Israel   (02.18.10)
Does that mean I can claim they did this too? There are many, many instances of spies getting busted all over the place for decades. Based on your racist logic, it can be anyone at this point. But one thing for sure - the court of public opinion is worthless in the shadow of the court of law, where there must be proof.
69. OK, I did it..
Yebo ,   Suid Afrika   (02.18.10)
and will do it again and again. One less Arab killer is a great thing. i hope though that rather then Israel taking this expensive actions again, G-D must just hit Iran and other places home to Jew killers, with great earthquakes... Not poor Haiti. May G-D show his wrath on this pathetic world
70. MEDIEVAL TYPE BARBARIC WHITCH-HUNT OVER PASSPORTS, ..
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (02.18.10)
MEDIEVAL TYPE WHITCH-HUNT OVER PASSPORTS, WOW, THE WORLD JUST KEEPS ON REPEATING THE SAME OLD CYCLES. SEEMS THE BRITS, IRISH AND OTHER FREINDS ARE REGRESSING BACK TO THE MIDDLE AGES. THEY SEEM TO CLAIM THAT THIS IS LIKE THE HOLY GRAIL, THE MOTHER OF ALL THAT'S HOLY----THE PASSPORT..... ARE THE SO CALLED " CIVILISED " COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD SO STUPID AND TRIVIAL,...... ALSO ADD HATEFULL AND BARBARIC.
71. #66,#67..EXCELLENT ARTICLES, A MUST READ FOR YNET-ERS
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (02.18.10)
THESE ARE JUST EXCELLENT ARTICLES AND EXTEREMLY KEEN OBSERVATIONS AND FACTS. EXCELLENT SENSE OF HISTORY AND HUMAN NATURE. GREAT JOB WILLIAM........THANK YOU !
72. once he said
salwa   (02.18.10)
that europe wanted to get rid of jews so they helped israil initiation specialy the UK. but sure they could not . be rid from the stupidity of the security of israil to export troubles to europe or UK .. i thinke israil is stepping down .with their faults in wars and in peace
73. why????
shams   (02.18.10)
one man can kill him why it is 11 from three nationality or more .... as if they want problemes with other states
74. Like we invented fake passports
Talula ,   Israel   (02.18.10)
I'm sure there are hundreds and hundreds of fake UK passports passing through emigration everyday at UK airports. Why are they so bent out of shape about it? At least most of the real holders of the passports are living in Israel. Because of the Brit’s holier than thou stance, they would never admit to a UK citizen using a fake passport. They’d never admit that the SAS or MI5 have EVER used a fake passport from another country. I hate the Brits, they make me sick. It’s only so bad because WE did it. The Mossad, if responsible, could have handled it another way and not have been so careless. Next time a murderous bastard Arab is marked for deletion, they can use my British passport.
75. british investigation???????
dan   (02.18.10)
I ask: when will the British finally investigate their release of the plane hijacker and terrorist Lela Khaled?
76. Passport defrauding serious: if Israel did it: sick world
Henry Gibson ,   Washington DC   (02.18.10)
77. The Best Indicator of Present/Future Behavior...
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (02.18.10)
...is past behavior! Canada. Australia. New Zealand...
78. As if Israel would be stupid enough..
Lightdew ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.18.10)
As if the israeli secret forces would be stupid enough to fake 7 British passports of Israeli citizens. If they were to think of doing so, it would indeed be untraceable. Its amazing how the western world likes to automactically blame our country for something that is blatently not our responsibility. Use your brains ppl!
79. No. 32
(02.18.10)
Let me tell you something about passports. I'm an American and when my husband died, the Israeli consulate sent me a letter telling me I had to send them his Israeli passport, which they then made useless by cutting a piece off one of the pages and then they returned it to me. However, my husband had dual Israeli and American citizenship, yet the State Department never asked for his American passport which had several years left before it expired. So who's to say I might not have been willing to sell his unexpired American passport to the highest bidder...even if they were Arab terrorists? Believe me, passports aren't nearly as sacrosanct as people believe.
80. #55 "Californication"
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (02.18.10)
Didn't know Irvine was a terrorist cesspool? A mere one week ago you had a good reminder of that in the campus over there. I have given you a very solid explanation why Begin and Shamir were nothing like Palestinian terrorists, which you simply conveniently ignored. And Palestinians would have had freedom long ago, had Arafat not chosen the path of terror. Lastly, the nickname you chose here defiles a beautiful song.
81. #79
Dorothy Friend ,   TEl Aviv   (02.18.10)
Hate to tell you, but European passports are more in demand than American passports, esp. since January 2001.
82. WHAT MORE DID YOU WANT,CYNTHIA....#61
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (02.18.10)
I mean,I expected you to keep your mouth shut when people and organisation involved have been caught with their pants down.What more is needed.Do you expect Mossad's chief to humbly accept responsibility??Of course he will not,although the talks of resignation did not come up out of the blue,Cynthia.Behave yourself.The repercussion to follow may give you what you need.This is just the begining.For God sake,Cynthia!!!!
83. # 82
Birdi ,   Israel   (02.18.10)
No evidence that Mossad was responsible.So you keep your big mouth shut & quit pointing your finget at us.
84. #82 Who dunnit Mahmood?
Cynthia ,   USA   (02.19.10)
This is a window into the terror network weapons smuggling business. Imagine the lurking vipers, terror states and mafia groups this admitted terrorist did business with. So many possibilities which you are well aware of. Don't be lazy.
85. TRY HARDER NEXT TIME,CYNTHIA.....#84
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (02.19.10)
It's too late on this occassion,I am afraid.
86. # 81 Dorothy
(02.20.10)
That's all well and good, but this happened in 1987. The State Department was the province of ignoramuses then too.
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