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Mullen: Strike on Iran won't be decisive
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Published: 22.02.10, 23:59
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1. Iran rejects engagement with the international community
Observer   (02.23.10)
They've learned a lot from.... Israel is a serial refusnik when it comes to international cooperation: see Passport fraud, Goldstone, Nuclear facilities,...and a lot more.
2. mullen and clinton
moshon   (02.23.10)
Both have basically said that iran will have nukes and deterrence and economic sanctions will be the means to control iran. In fairness to Iran, their drive to nuclear has its main drive to oppose saddam who you remmeber launched scuds with chemicals at persians and burned them so much so that khomeini reluctantly sued for peace. Khomeini and his successors have it in for israel for its perceived assistance to the shah who repressed them. Israel's trade was normal and even khomeini winked at israel when he accepted israel arms in the 80s to counter saddam. Now we come to ahmadinejad or sabjourian, of jewish ancestry who is trying to be more moslem than the moslems by attacking israel.Likewise kameinei, who certainly is not regarded as any saint by the sunni arabs, lacks clerical credentials and so outdoes his predecessor. Both advocated the return of the 12 th madhi, who will come in times of huge tribulation with wars against israel and the USafter which the persian caliphate will rule europe for 1000 years. This is a ph.d. in transport engineering pushing this stuff. So Mullen and clinton like obama have wasted 1 year with meaningless talks with iran. Israel will decide what it has to do with no help from the US which is bogged down in afganistan and iraq. israel is not going down as another checkoslovakin. it will go down if it has to fighting and will take down some sunni and shiite countries with it.
3. :: It doesn't need to be decisive
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (02.23.10)
All an attack needs to accomplish is to create a radioactive area around each facility that will prevent the Mullahs from accessing them
4. GOOD BOY ADMIRAL MULLEN
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (02.23.10)
For being intelligent enough to forecast what would happen if Iran is indeed attacked.Having drawn that conclusion,be it known to you that as a result of your rather erratic statements,Iran is not going to relax in persuing defensive measures in anyway.They know exactly well what you say and what you intend doing. Coming to the sanctions,rather punitive sanctions this time around,who is working closely???Are we to understand that the Russians and the rest are actually sitting round the table drawing up the list of action they are going to take??Well, that sounds strange enough to us.The Russians have no clue of the list of items and the course of action that you desire to present to the Security Council.Or are you suggesting that the Russians will just look at the list and endorse it?They won't Admiral,and you know that well.And what makes you think that the Chinese are on board or will be very soon? Rather optimistic,aren't you Admiral Mullen? Furthermore,Iran's announcement today planning to go ahead with 2 more plants to enrich uranium does not in any way compound your worries,does it?Why should it be so?Just like the present units in operation,two more units will perform the same task as the Natanz unit.Why should the announcement today by Iran give you and the lot 'further indication of Iran's reluctance to co-operate'????Where does this subject of expansion tie up with your imaginary worries?
5. An impostor threatens nukes on Iran...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (02.23.10)
...of course the impostor has not read Anthony Cordesman and what the likely outcome would be if Israel did use nukes on Iran. In addition to hundreds of thousands of Iranian deaths that would ensue and the massive devastation and world war that such a foolhardy action by Israel would result in, there would also be tens of thousands of other dead outside of the conflict area by happenstance with nuclear weapons of mass destruction. And of course, the next day, Israel would no longer exist in any recognizable way and most there would be dead. The impostor of course that inspired this comment, would be happily sitting in mom's basement cackling with its foil hat on, in a bathrobe, pulling its own pud in stark, naked loneliness...
6. "Mahmood", Iran could devastate Israel right now...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (02.23.10)
...that's old news. The thing is, they don't, because the Mullahs are not insane. I'm sorry the same thing cannot be said for so many of the anonymous wingnuts here. Iran has every right to self-defense. Surely Israel, who has for the last year insisted on its right to self-defense would not begrudge Iran the same right. Especially since it is Israel doing all of the threatening of attacking. And Iran has never threatened to attack Israel ever.
7. using economic pressure against Iran -useless
Psalms83 ,   Selah   (02.23.10)
When you have radical religious leaders in Iran bent on Israels Destruction - no amount of pressure will work - make the sites unuseable to the mullahs ... its hard to clean up a radioactive site so it is safe... then sancion all you want
8. Mullen is wrong
Brod ,   USA   (02.23.10)
A strike will clean up the Ayatollahs' nuke ambition. Short of that will be hellfire for the region, Israel, the EU and America by the fanatics. Unfortunately, the dark forces want to facilitate a Holocaust on Israel by way of Mushroom Cloud. Israel alone will decide in its defense and not Mullen, Obama and the world of AntiSemites and Islamist-Jihadists.
9. March 1 is Adar 15, give or take a day or two, depending on
Rivkah   (02.23.10)
the first day of the calendar that is determined by barley being aviv (ripe) near the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Ezekiel chapter 32mentions two days and the day in Bible prophecy is the day the foretold event comes to pass. Only the year is unknown. Ezekiel chapter 32's attack on the military of a young lion nation and its leader with a sword of a king of Babylon in the land of the Chaldeans (Iraq) will happen on the 1st or 15th day of the 12th month on the Jewish calendar. That could be Adar or Elul, depending on whether the Prophet used the Moses or Babylonian calendar. Ezra the Prophet used the Moses calendar and that is certain. So it is likely Daniel and Ezekiel did, too. That would put Adar 15 coming up in a week in the sights of a possibly terrible event in the land of the Chaldeans (Iraq) or the greater Persian Gulf area if that was anciently ever considered to be Chaldea. The tetrad of solar and lunar eclipses on Jewish Holy days that happens when there is war with Israel, is winding up from 2008 to 2010. This is likely the year of the Daniel chapter 8 attack on the greater horn (Persia, Iran) of the ram and the collapse afterwards of the notable horn (USA) into four parts. Let us pray it is in the next tetrad in 2014 to 2015. But many other things have lined up for this year. The seven year confirmation of Resolution 666 by the New ENPI in later 2007 that could be the covenant with death of Daniel and could signal the last seven years of Gentile world rule If that is what that was since a ten nation WEU signed it along with the Arab Alliance and Israel, etc., then the Great Tribulation begins this year. Time to repent of sins and plead to the Lord for His mercy and protection and eternal salvation. A third of the world is about to die in World War III.
10. The Ghost of P.M.Chamberlaine walks again .
Roland Seener ,   London England   (02.23.10)
11. #1 Observer, Yes it has been noted that Israel
er der   (02.23.10)
tends to have a need to be a little different from other countries, given that she has some unique attributes (i.e.: the only country threatened existentially regularly by a surrounding sea of blood-thirsty regimes eager to see her demise since the day of inception, if not prior, over the millennia).
12. Only actions count.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (02.23.10)
An Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear installations will rebuild Israel's eroded deterrent posture and put paid the notion that Israel is no longer a military power to be reckoned with. And the destruction of Iran's nuclear capacity will weaken Iran's military posture throughout the region and so weaken its terror proxies from Iraq to Lebanon to Gaza to Afghanistan. In short, a successful Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear installations will demonstrate to real rather than fake realists that a strong Israel is indispensible to regional stability and international security. Without any doubts, it will help the democrats in Iran as explained at : http://xrl.us/be82fr
13. JERK !!!.
Arn. ,   SWDEN.   (02.23.10)
Mullen: Strike on Iran won't be decisive US Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman says attack on Islamic Republic's nuclear sites won't halt nuclear program "No strike, however effective, will be in and of itself decisive,"Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a news conference, adding that he supported using diplomatic and economic pressure against Iran. WILL THEN DIPLOMATIC AND ECONOMIC PRESSURIE BEE DECESSIVE IN AND OF ITSELF ???. MILITARY TOP BRASS TRYING TO PLAY THE ROLE OF THE POLITICIAN, IN THIS CASE THE ROLE OF THE JERKS OBAMA AND CLINTON, WILL NOT DO. ," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters. Gibbs said Obama and international leaders "have been clear that without a change in behavior, the Iranian government faces necessary consequences." THE ONLY CHANGE IN IRANS BEHAVIOR FORTHCOMMING, IS THAT IRAN WILL PUT ITS DOGS, SYRIA,HIZBOLLAH AND HAMAS ON ISRAEL. .He suggested that China -- which has balked at punitive measures -- would eventually endorse a fourth round of UN sanctions against Iran. CHINA WILL NOT. "We've worked quite closely with the Chinese on the strongest sanctions that have ever gone through the Security Council in Resolution 1847 dealing with North Korea," he said. "So we believe strongly, and I think the Chinese believe, that an arms race either in the Middle East or an international arms race is, in no way, in their interest," he said. IT DOES NOT MATTER. IT WILL BE AN ARMS RACE WHATEVER WAY IS CHOSEN SABA AND DEDAN-YEMEN AND SAUDIARABIA-EZEKIEL CHAP 38:13, WILL BETRAY BOTH EU AND THE WEST, AND GIVE FREE PASSAGE TO GOG AND MAGOG, BOTH IN RED SEA AND THE ZUES- CANAL, AND IN TURKEY ALSO. THE SAUDIS IS FOLLOWING THE PROPHESY IN THE KORAN IN THIS CASE, AS THE KORAN PUT IT - - IN THAT DAY WE WILL LET THEM ROLL OVER EACHOTHER-!!!. SO - DIPLOMACY AND ECONOMICAL SANCTIONS, TOGHETER WITH A MILITARY STRIKE, WILL AT LEAST EASE THE KONFLICT FOR A COPLE OF YEARS, AND FORCE IRAN TO SUBMIT TO CHINA AND JAPAN, SO IRAN CAN NOT ACT INDEPENDENTLY, BUT MUST STAY UNDER THE RULE OF EAST ASIA, Arn.
14. Iran and nuclear weapons
Charlie ,   Woodmere, NY   (02.23.10)
Let's be clear: any attack by Iran on Israel with a nuclear weapon would be decisive; so can we stop the talk about the lack of a military response and that such action would not be decisive in thwarting Iranian aims. Absent an overthrow of the Iranian regime and the implementation of a peace-loving government, the unpleasant reality is that military action to stop Iran's drive to annihilate the Jewish state is going to be necessary. The sooner the Obama administration recognizes the dangerous situation Iran is creating the better.
15. Don't Wait Netanyahu.
Mixer ,   USA   (02.23.10)
I have watched Obama do some dumb stuff the last year but please defend your country from Iran. If it means doing it yourself by all means do it.! Obama has made our country weak in the world and i am beginning to wonder who signs his paycheck. I hope he wakes up!
16. #1 - anonymous coward with a stupid handle....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (02.23.10)
17. The Obama quislings don't have the will to make it decisive
Cynic ,   USA   (02.23.10)
Who is he kidding. The US has the military capability, they just have an incompetent commander in chief.
18. someone send observer
Barney ,   USA   (02.23.10)
a ticket to iran so this Jew Hater can be there for the strike.
19. Goodbye Iran, Israel Wipe Them Out
Steven Stein ,   New York New York   (02.23.10)
Israel Should drop bombs on Iran Army, Airforce bases and Presidental Palace.
20. Thorny Problem
Dan ,   Titusville, FL   (02.23.10)
It is going to take a coordinated strike by several nations to disable Iran's nuclear infrastructure, destroy its scientific community, destroy its military's ability to defend and retaliate and to decapitate the Government. People think America is too weak but they are wrong. America, Israel, Great Britain, France and possibly Russia acting together can stop Iran and create a new world order of peace all at the same time. Maybe they can also spank the Palestinians at the same time.
21. At the End of the Day, Uncle Mullen is not the one who will
decide,but will be ,   Informed.   (02.23.10)
22. In other words:
Israeli 2   (02.23.10)
Full steam ahead Iran!! We will not do anything to you. We are on China's side...not even sanctions! Also, we are fed up with the Zionists!!. We do everything necessary to hold Israel from attacking you.
23. Elisha saw a capable army on Israel's side.
Curtis ,   USA   (02.23.10)
Maybe if know-it-all Mullen could see Israel's protecting army, he might not be so quick to make big pronouncements concerning the outcome of any military operation Israel takes for its own safety.
24. HAHAHAHA...LOL..
Alex ,   Stockholm-Sweden   (02.23.10)
Lets see you do it now. Of course I'm pretty sure you would come crying to the west when iran retaliates. get this into your thick skulls(specially for the americans out there). There will be no war,hillary made it clear,benji nuttyahoo made it clear and everyone are doing just fine. PS: Please cut the bible crap about eizekel predicting things happening. Makes you look like idiots.
25. Dan in Titusville votes for the deaths of millions...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (02.23.10)
...like a little cockroach, it scurries away in the light. Any person who advocates that millions die should be declared insane and treated accordingly. Now watch Dan in Titusville not say another word in this thread again - yet the little chicken putz will show up in the next thread, saying the same lie. When will the wingnuts learn? And when will real Israel supporters realize that if you really want peace and not endless PR disasters, you had better start calling out these inciters as well...
26. If a strike isn't decisive then imagine
Stan ,   Johannesburg RSA   (02.23.10)
If a strike won't prove to be decisive then imagine how little can be achieved by talking. After Israel will come USA followed by EU and no amount of cowering will stop Iran. If Iran is considered a responsible democracy that can be negotiated with and trusted then once again we are in G-d's hands. All this big talk and no action is exactly what drives Agmidinijud further.
27. Mullen
Hal ,   Usa   (02.23.10)
Any attack on Iranian targets will not be limited to nuclear sites. For good reasons, Mullen will not discuss them. Stay tuned!
28. MORE talk. amazing.
ben Ish   (02.23.10)
Why am I not surprised? In the unlikely event the US acted against Iran, I estimate that components of the space program will be *collaterally* damaged. The world is a very tightly interwoven economic web, built by people who are more consumed with greed than anything you can possibly imagine. These people want a very quick and decisive war. By eliminating Israel, they believe that they can have a homogenous and semi-peaceful mid-east. The only targets in Iran are the ones the west needs to protect *themselves* from Iranian nukes. But then again, the US has the most pathetic excuse for a commander imaginable. The epitome of an insulated academic who is so ingrained with agenda that he has neither the capability or intelligence to bring the even the barest of reasonable actions or decisions into action. To put it bluntly, he believes himself capable of command, but he will fail CATASTROPHICALLY. So long USA, it was nice knowing you. I suggest you invest in Russian and/or Chinese language dictionaries. I suggest to Bibi that he insulate Israel as much as possible from the flaming slag that used to be America.
29. #27 Hal,how do you know?are you by any means aware...
Mark ,   Netherlands   (02.23.10)
of the strategy that has been designed for iran?has the white house told you of any of those plans?? I'm sure it is of your deepest desire to see iran being bombed,how ever,that will not happen. Like I said in an earlier post,Hillary has made that clear and so has netanyahu. So please stop all this nonsense once and for all. It's not gonna happen. PS: these matters are a little too big for your head(and most people who post rubbish on this forum). So just relax and let the big boys decide whats next.
30. TALKBACK NUMBER 6.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (02.23.10)
Especially since it is Israel doing all of the threatening of attacking. And Iran has never threatened to attack Israel ever. BBSNews , Charlotte, NC (02.23.10) WHAT IGNORANT KIND OF FOOL AND IDIOT IS THIS ???. IRANS TOP LEADERS, THE POLITICAL AS WELL AS THE RELIGIOUS ONES, HAS THREATHEN ISRAEL WITH EXTINCTION AND TO BE WIPED FROM THE MAP. SOME PERSONS JUDGEMENTS, SEEMS TO BE TOTALY INSANE AS REGARDING REALITY. Arn.
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