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The meaning of Exodus
Moshe Dann
Published: 30.03.10, 13:50
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31. # 27 - one more religous fanatic
Moshe ,   Buenos Aires   (03.31.10)
So why are you on line! Go pray in your yeshiva and leave us alone!
32. No escape, gary
Cameron ,   USA   (03.31.10)
I find this constant squawk on YNET for Israelis to seek out another patron absolutely fascinating. All sorts of psychological dimensions of fear & hope wrapped up in it. Ultimately though, it all amounts to an empty exercise in futile Escapism. No other country on the planet is prepared to play ally or patron with Israel. This will not change. The US is all there is in terms of friends & alliances. We cannot be replaced.
33. #29 - Gary you must be smoking crack...
AJ ,   Washington, DC   (03.31.10)
An authoritarian regime with ZERO values that would sell its mother for a dollar and a half is Israel's future? Get a grip.
34. jews will overcome oybama, today's pharaoh
debra ,   usa   (03.31.10)
35. Are you out of your mind?
Heather ,   Washington, DC   (03.31.10)
In case you missed it support for Israel in the US is declining at rapid pace and has been for many years. Most Americans are not strong supporters of Israel no matter their religious background. It ranks waaaaaaaaaaaay at the bottom of what Americans care/worry about in every pole in every outlet. While many Americans count Israel as a friend we have stronger and more productive alliances with others like the UK and France. You need us we don't need you. The idea that China or Russia would support you like the US is fantasy. I am talking la la land here. I am proud American and proud Obama supporter and suggest you take look at your guy over there. He is putting the future of your country at risk.
36. According to Obama
MaRK ,   new York   (03.31.10)
If Obama was Moses he would have sold the israelites to Pharaoh for better relations with Persia
37. Its not about Obama or Jews!!!!
Mike ,   Portland, USA   (03.31.10)
The human population is dwelling on the Titanic. It is of our own making. We have overshot our resource base as mammals typically do; which is usually followed by a massive die-off. Stripped of sentiment and politics, we are too many humans chasing too few resources. Changing captains on this ship, as we do periodically, doesn't seem to be changing our destination. The Israel/Palestine dispute is just one example of people killing each other for the remaining crumbs from a banquet that is coming to an end. Whether it is Bush, Obama, McCain, or Netanyahu steering the ship, it is increasingly irrelevant to our collective fates. Our ethnicities, nationalities, & religions are no more relevant to our real problems, than the type of antlers on deer, that have over-grazed their food supply. Certainly these are the last types of things we should be pre-occupied with, as we face future starvation, with the low-hanging petro-energy "fruit" & connected food supply" having been pretty well picked clean. The human race needs to make an "exodus" from excessive reproduction and consumption. There aint no messiahs (either first coming or second coming) that are going to rescue anyone!
38. HE'S RIGHT, WATCH THE MOVIE!
Frank-el ,   Detroit USA   (03.31.10)
With just a little imagination it's not hard to see that Obama and Yul Brynner, who starred as the Pharoah in the movie The Ten Commandments, look alike! That must have been the basis of this insightful analysis by Dann, because I see nothing else that remotely resembles reason in this ridiculous analogy.
39. Why is this president different from....
steve ,   tel aviv   (03.31.10)
Why is this president different from all the other presidents. Moshe Dann explains it clearly and to the point and shows how it will backfire and boomerang.
40. #1-Resoundingly elected in Financ crisis against 2 weak Reps
Alan ,   SA   (03.31.10)
41. b.o. will learn about exodus in Jan,2013
jason white ,   afula, israel   (03.31.10)
When he is replaced by a real American as POTUS!
42. Everything for the good
Sarah ,   Israel   (03.31.10)
'Gomzu l'tova' we say -- and indeed, the slavery in Egypt, and our liberation from it -- were ultimately a blessing for us, even though it didn't seem so at the time. As Dann says, now having a hostile incompetant in the White House can serve the same purpose. We're definitely learning who our friends are, if nothing else.
43. MOSHE DANN
Miriam Adahan ,   Jerusalem   (03.31.10)
Dr. Dann gives us the right perspective. Obama, scary as he is, is part of the Divine plan to wake us up Excellent writer. .
44. You and Ahmedinejad deserve each other
Peter ,   Jerusalem   (03.31.10)
What an embarrassing religiously fundamentalist article. Israel (particularly Jerusalem) is turning into just another nutty Middle East country full of people who believe they have a divine right to rule others, that God is on their side and that by following arcane and preposterous social rules (while showing virtually no sense of basic morality or humanity to their neighbours) they are enacting God's will. Sorry G_d's will. After all God, if he exists, is bound to be the kind of guy that gets really het up about people who don't subsitute the "_" for the "o". It's a great sadness. Israel, the country and the story that promised so much is no more than a few million more sand-lovers shouting about their religion, doing odd things and heading steadily backwards into the middle-ages. No wonder Europe is turning its back. You've become an embarrassment.
45. Is Israel a vassal of the U.S.A.?
Ron B. ,   Lod   (03.31.10)
Most everyone assumes that, because the American people support small Israel, therefore, the State Department, the influential oil companies who make decisions for both State, the Oval Office, the Pentagon and other Intelligence units - also support Israel. These forces have different interests and different loyalties due to the Saudis and Egypt, with some connected to Syria and Iran. Israel is ‘used’ as a convenience that can be counted on - when needed - and dismissed when the decision for action lies between the Muslim Arab States and the Jewish State of Israel. More at : http://xrl.us/ben837
46. # 8 I too have lost all respect for this arrogant non-Jew
Sol Halevi ,   Boston, MA   (03.31.10)
who tells us, Jews, the meaning of our the special event that we celebrate. And, I too, being an American Jew, am sorry I voted for this President, having believed his words at AIPAC conference of 2008 with regard to Jerusalem. Now, not only has he gone back on all his words, he also dares telling Jews in which neighborhoods of another sovereign state to live or not to live. This demand of Mr. Obama is pure racism, anti-Jewish racism and I, as the overwhelming majority of Jews, are neither racists nor self-haters to end up voting again for this man. Never Again!
47. illusion
mays ,   jerusalem   (03.31.10)
god ordered moses to take bni israil out side egypt and used his stick to pass through the sea so it was god choice it is the mireckle ... nowadays evry one has the choice there are not prophets there is book do good do not kill do not lie and so evry one is judged by his doing god judge people but we do the good or the worst ..please now it is not lke before 3000 years .where is moses or arone to say he is pharoa .please wake up for your doing before you wake up for the others doing
48. Obama worse than Pharaoh
Joseph ,   Jerusalem   (03.31.10)
Pharoah wanted to only destroy the male babies, Obama by preventing Israel from striking Iran and by playing around with Iran is endangering the entire Jewish people in the land of Israel. G-d is stronger than Obama.
49. :: Jae - #24
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (03.31.10)
Jae you seem to miss my point and come to me empty-handed. This is not about ‘belief’ (Jews would never Believe it unless it happened) this is about ‘fact(s)’ or the lack of them in this case. Jae you mention “entire people witnessing the Exodus and Mt.Sinai”. What ‘entire people’ and what ‘Mt Sinai’? Just to be clear let me recap; we are talking about a few million people living in bondage in Egypt upping camp moving to the Sinai desert for 38-40 years stopping off at Mt Sinai on the way before arriving in ‘the promised land’. Just to put that into context it would be the equivalent of the entire population of the Gaza Strip moving into the Sinai for 40 years and then settling down as a population of some 3-5 million strong. Now clearly these people would leave a very large archaeological footprint particularly if they were based around Mt Sinai so I ask you this simple question: Show me any historical proof or archaeological evidence that approx 2m Hebrew people (any people/culture!) lived in the Sinai desert in approx 1400 BC (or any time for that matter!!). You can’t, neither can anyone else reading this thread. Likewise you can’t tell me where Mt Sinai is as no one can agree where it is. Thus your entire sentence “entire people witnessing the Exodus and Mt.Sinai” cannot be authenticated based on any form of actual proof/material evidence. This reminds me of an old pagan/wiccan reverse-curse ie: “Curse the curser - let it be”. I don’t believe in that nonsense either...
50. #30, UH, GUESS YOU DIDN'T KNOW..
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (03.31.10)
THAT THE FIRST DAY OF PASSOVER IS INDEED A CHAG THAT IS OBSERVED LIKE SHABBAT, UH, SORRY TO STATE THE OBVIOUS.
51. #31: LIKE I TOLD 30 -
(03.31.10)
ON CHAGIM, NOT CHOL HAMOED, I AM OFFLINE, BUT ON CHOL HAMOED I GO ONLINE...PRAY IN MY YESHIVA? THAT'S SUCH A LAME COMEBACK. CAN'T YOU DO BETTER THAN THAT?
52. To: Cameron at No. 32
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.10)
Who needs another patron? For that matter, does Israel need a patron? There is an alarmingly growing group of countries that are acquiring nuclear technology -- and weapons-making technology. The group of countries that can actually DELIVER such a weapon is quite small. The United States. Russia. China. France. Israel. Got that? Israel doesn't need a patron. Especially an economically-crippled United States whose president is going to be impeached within the year. Obamacare? That was the final nail in the coffin, Cameron. And what's more ..... you know it.
53. To: Jason at No. 41
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.10)
Oh, it will be a lot sooner than that!
54. To: No. 38
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.10)
And I suppose you want to argue that Mohammed's heart being cut out and washed to prepare him for a trip to heaven on a winged horse is logical. Fool.
55. # 50
Birdi ,   Israel   (03.31.10)
May you have many camels & never know hunger.
56. #55 - BIRDI: GUESS JUDAISM ISN'T 'CHIC' ENOUGH FOR YOU.
(03.31.10)
GUESS WHAT: G-D NEVER GOES OUT OF STYLE. AND DOING WHAT HE WANTS WILL ALWAYS BE IN FASHION, LONG AFTER FOX AND ZORO GO OUT OF BUSINESS,
57. # 56
Birdi ,   Israel   (03.31.10)
I suggest that you go stand on a box & preach at Hyde Park corner where you will no doubt get a standing ovation. As a secular Jew, I will not be influenced by the likes of you & your kind.
58. # 49
Birdi ,   Israel   (03.31.10)
Matty dear, this is what we Jews have believed in for thousands & thousands of years. You know we cant give you any historical or archaeological proof, so do stop being a wet rag.
59. Obama defies God at America's peril
Craig ,   L.A., USA   (04.01.10)
Turn to your God Israel...you must, MUST repent of your secular ways and return to faith in your God. I know that it is extremely difficult for many Jews who, for the long suffering of your people and God's silence, have rejected Judaism...but God promises your people He will respond if you acknowledge your offense and humbly, fervently seek Him. Secular Jews of Israel...return to your God while there is still time for you. Great deception and turmoil is coming for Israel and the world as well. You must not place your trust with Obama or any organization...You Will be Betrayed.
60. The Two Witnesses are Coming
Craig ,   L.A., USA   (04.01.10)
God will send His Witnesses, foretold in Scripture, to lead Israel out of deception and spritual bondage; Israel, prepare yourselves for tough times. True Christians of America stand with you and your nation...and don't believe that crap about we only support you for absurd selfish reasons. We support you because you are God's chosen people...we serve the same God, just disagree about Yeshua; this will all be worked out in time.
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