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Geert Wilders: Change Jordan's name to Palestine
Roee Nahmias
Published: 20.06.10, 12:18
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61. New thinking required
sm ,   uk   (06.20.10)
Good to hear an intelligent & brave comment from a politician, especially a European one. The borders of Israel and neighbouring states are largely artificial creations of European powers. The idea that two peoples can be squeezed into such a tiny area was always unworkable and ridiculous. Eample: tiny Gaza one of the most crowded places on earth and just next door the vast expanse of the empty Sinai and also Judea and Samaria (the so called West Bank) creating israels narrowest point of about 8 miles. Israel has an iron cast historical claim to all of this land, the mythological 'palestinians' overwhelmingly immigrants from neighbouring arab states none at all. Gaza needs to be offered land in the Sinai to accomodate it's growing population while Jordan is the perfect solution for the palestinians. The palestinians 'claim' is a modern invention and a fig leaf to hide the hostlity to Jews living in an 'arab neighbourhood'.
62. to 46
anton ,   istanbul   (06.20.10)
this guys is not antijihadist he doesnt want to see any muslim in europe when ı said he is racist that wasnt just my saying he is known as that among many european counry brits didint even let him to come their country ı wouldnt have problem if open minded respected european politician said what he said. The problem is you explicitly support the man who has stinky ideas for muslims today for muslims tomorrow may be for the jews thats all I am saying... regards
63. to 44
anton ,   istanbul turkey   (06.20.10)
I believe by saying "hey you" you meant me ı dont think you know me cause ı dont push anyone listen every goverment have their time after the time is up they are gone so you just have to wait that time to come for our goverment like we are doing for yours here nobody is becoming barbarian islamic jihadist you need to calm down I dont blame you cause world wide islam has bad reputation for obvious reasons so for you to think that way is normal but when you talk about turkey those things dont apply we have secularism in our roots nobody can change it we are suporting your existence you may seem a couple thousand bearded man suportıng hamas in tv and think turkey is jihadist state we are 75 million people here dont forget the fact that every secular person in turkey would love to see israel as a friend instead of arabs
64. This man is FANTASTIC !!
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (06.20.10)
...And he just keeps getting better all the time. He's literally the one and only high-level politician in the world who has the kahones to speak the truth about the cesspool that is the Arab/Muslim world. Take a lesson from this man, Bibi. He is everything you should, but could never, be...a man with conviction, a man with dignity, a man who speaks straight and true. Bibi, you should be ashamed of youself when exposed to a man like Wilders. He is more "Jewish" and more "Israeli" than you'll ever be. Just imagine how great Israel could be if Wilders was at the helm. Israel would be back to the glory days of Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan.
65. Figures! It takes a righteous gentile to say what spineless
Jae ,   Lynn US   (06.20.10)
lefty jewish governments cant!!!
66. Bravo! Jordan is 78% of Palestine Mandate, 80% of population
jae ,   lynn usa   (06.20.10)
idnetify as "Palestinians" . You have a situation where the land and the people are the majority of "palestine" change the name, drop kick abdullahs british appointed power, and let the people make their country as they will in league with the UN. GET IT DONE
67. to #54 well said he even has afrikan friends
ghostq   (06.20.10)
he is light years from being racist.
68. No. 18
NYC Girl   (06.20.10)
Jews weren't only kicked out of European countries. More than half of all Israelis who aren't native born, originally came from families that were kicked out of Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Iran and North Africa. However, you (like Helen Thomas and others who obviously aren't familiar with the Israeli demographic) would like to pretend the Arabs never made life hell for the Jews living under their regimes. But, trust me, they did.
69. Charles, Petach Tikva
Nahum 2:2 ,   West Coast, USA   (06.20.10)
I really don't see any problem with (racialist) anti-Semites (be they Western or Central European, Russian, or White American) as long as they're not rabidly anti-Zionist. Unfortunately, most of them are, and they support the Arabs. If they weren't pro-Arab/Muslim, I'd be all for allying with them to finish the Arabs/Muslims once and for all. Once that's accomplished, we could gather all the Jews in liberated Greater Israel, and they could have their Jew-free Europe, US, etc.
70. A Dutch poll
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.20.10)
A poll published by the NIW [ Nederlands Israelietisch weekblad - Dutch Jewish Weekly ] indicates that ONLY 2 % of Dutch Jews voted for Wilder's party . They probably know why .....
71. Will Europe wake up ?
Ron B. ,   Lod   (06.20.10)
Voices in the UK, in the Nederland and now also in Germany are getting everyday louder. With hope coming back in the heart of the population, the west will overcome the invasion of Islam as explained at : http://xrl.us/bgfrgn
72. sami in lebanon: me thinks u are blinded by the real racism
jae ,   lynn usa   (06.20.10)
endemic to arab and muslim countries. theanti semitism in lebanon under hizbullahis 1000000000x greater than anything in europe. its quite rich for you to raise the flag of judge and jury, given the country you live in. one might say it is hypocritical to the nth degree.
73. #52 jj: he supports womens rights,; you bed
Jae ,   Lynn US   (06.20.10)
with hamas, hizbullah, libya, iran. you can tell a lot by ones friends...yes indeed.
74. to #62 Muslims don't have any History in Europe
ghostq   (06.20.10)
their origin is in te ME, if they don't respect the lokal chritian Europene customs they should move back to where they came from. and as for jews, I think Muslims today behave toward jews in much more racism than chritians, so many Caricatures, and that includes Turkey recent atitude to the only jewish state on earth.
75. #2, Charles, Charles Johnson of lgf is wrong
AK   (06.20.10)
Nazi collaborators are in their late 80s and 90s and where does Le Pen comes into this? There is nothing between Widers and Le Pen. In the past the Left was a friend and in the Guardian you could read pro-Israel friendly articles. But that was then and now Guardian's writers rutinely compare Israelis to Nazis and Arab terrorists to Jewish victims of the Warsaw Ghetto and advocate dismantling of Israel. Yes, the times and parties have changed. Old friend have become enemies, while old enemies became friends. Accept it. I know that you would liked to be loved by the Left, but they prefer marching with Muslim who yell 'death to the Jews.' Wilders is a good man, and brave. And of cause, here, Wilders is right --Jordan is a Palestine, carved out by the British out of ther 3/4 of the territory of the Palestinian mandate.
76. Jordan is an artificial construct - like Palestinian people
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77. The American congress!is already an israeli occupied.. ....
anarchist   (06.20.10)
territorie.........so the Israelis should move to Washington_DC and become neighbors with Helen Thomas!
78. Keren 59 , as always : IGNORANT
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.20.10)
His party received 24 seats of the 150 in the parlement , during the last elections , 9 Juni 2010 . Not a RULING person .
79. to #36, not that I support him but
normal ,   beer-sheva   (06.20.10)
the same can be said about your current leader... strangely you don't seem to be bothered by what your current leader is saying.
80. And change USA's name to Israel
Chanalau, Tova ,   London, UK   (06.20.10)
and leave Palestine to its rightful owners. Americans are so ienamoured by Israel that they would just love to welcome their Jewish settlers friends to the best real estate sites in the country.
81. #62 Anton
Madeleine ,   Israel   (06.20.10)
The reason the Brits didn't let him in was because - oh golly oh gosh! - he dared write and peak about the growing threat of Islam, about Islam's threat to rule the world, kill the Jews, introduce sharia law, including honour killings. Thepolitically correct Mr. Brown and his minions (the then PM) didn't like this at all, oh heavens, it might have offended Britain's Moslem population. Ohan dby the way, if you think he has "stinky ideas for Moslems" that's because Moslems have even stinkier ideas for the rest of the world, particularly Jews and even more so for Israelis. I have yet to see or hear of a pro-Islamic demonstration where they're not screaming death to the Jews, kill the infidel and the like. Actually, I think Islam is a terrorist organizaiton.
82. 69 , allying with antisemirtes ????
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.20.10)
We are talking here about right wing parties , mostly anti muslim . See the program of those parties The Dutch one : no advantages during the 10 first years , making it very difficult for muslims to come to the Netherlands , have to speak Dutch , and so on . Won 24 seats of 150 in the June 9 elections . The Flemish VB : Own people first ! They lost many votes in the June 10 elections , this in favor of a softer NV-A , more because of intern Belgian policies
83. Support
Common sense ,   Holland   (06.20.10)
Only 2% of the jewish population in the Netherlands are voting for his party. This must tell you something about this guy.
84. Jordan is Palestine
Michael ,   CT, USA   (06.20.10)
No doubt that he is correct. Jordanians and Palestinians have same culture language history and territory. Wasnt until Israel was separated from western part of mandate Palestine that eastern part was changed to Jordan
85. anton, secularists are becoming a minority in Turkey
AK   (06.20.10)
It is a pity. I always thought that secular ideas have greater hold in Turkey, but unfortunately, the city secular educated classes have fewer numbers and the idiots in the EU put chains on secular Turkish military. I wish Turks would vote for secular leaders and maybe they will. Lets hope they will.
86. #64, Actually Israeli wouldn't be in trouble it finds itself
AK   (06.20.10)
if Geert Wilders was at the helm instead of Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan. Do you think that Wilders would hand over the keys to Temple Mount to the Arabs.As a matter of fact, I think that in the heat of the war he would make sure that the two mosques on Temple Mount would turn into a pile of rocks with a place to build a nice Temple to unite the Jews. Instead, dayan left those mosques to become a place to rally Arabs to destroy Israel. Yes, Golda Meyer and Dayan were granted a victory, which they promptly squandered.
87. re:#70 Charles, 80% American Jews voted Obama
AK   (06.20.10)
That vote tells you more about Jews than about Obama or Wilders. Actually, it shows that Jews in agregate have no political judgement; they couldn't have gotten things more wrong, they voted for an obvious enemy of Israel; while they rejected a good friend.
88. call it what it is
jay ,   DC   (06.20.10)
Can we call what Wilders is saying for what it truly is, a call for the mass expulsion and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in order to maintain Jewish supremacy over land. Jewish extremism has now proven to be more of a threat to world peace than islamic extremism ever has...congratulations
89. Keren , 59 . Again ignorant . TRY # 2
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.20.10)
Wilders does NOT rule the Netherrlands . He has won 24 seats out of 150 ! And the different parties are stioll in discussion to form a new governement . So before writing , try to inform yourself . But that's to difficult for you
90. Wilders and European nationalism
Jens ,   Germany   (06.20.10)
It is really astonishing how many people here support Wilders. One would think that Jews have an instinctive suspicion when it comes to European nationalism, but the desperate search for allies against Islamic fundamentalism seems to turn many people blind. Wilders himself might be pro-Jewish, but the political tendency he represents is definitively not and he's (maybe even without knowing) paving the road into something really ugly.
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