This picture of an angry old judgemental miser whom you call God is one of the reasons young people do NOT want to know him. God hates sin, but God is a loving gracious God, for all men and women have sinned, and if it were not for his Grace, we all would be condemned. Seek the living God, not this harseh Torah Teaching.

this is sad... it always breaks my heart when other mothers talk about to which summer camp they are sending their kids just after school ends. these children are pure, all they need is quality time spent with their parents. talk, talk and talk. and let's all be good examples.

#1, It is not the teacher's JOB to educate your student in sex education. I am a Middle School teacher and would be sued if I told my students to stay away from sex. It is the PARENT's job to talk to their kids, and to raise them. We do our best to help our students... but we are not the foundation they go home to every day. My heart goes out to the Osha's out there. A return to true Torah would be helpful. But, I read so many times that Israel wants to be like the other nations... you will have to take the badwith that choice.

How wonderful to blame the educational system, and TV. Maybe, if parents were really concerned they would limit TV in the home, or (horrors) remove it altogether? Perhaps teach children just a bit about modest dressing. When I travel to London, I'm shocked to see girls wearing modest skirts...and they aren't Jewish or Religious! Modesty builds self-respect, something totally lacking in Israeli society. You don't have to be a fundamentalist to take responsibility for your children's dress and behavior. Blaming the "system" and "TV" is pathetic.

outstanding role model. You are NOT finished! No way are you a total loss! We all make mistakes in life. You are a diamond in the rough and you are going to shine so bright! You can be a leader and live the most amazing life. King David sinned greatly against G-D, but G-D FORGAVE King David who did NOT give up, but lived an amazing life. King David was Israel's greatest King!

It was much much worse among mityavnim, so there is no cause for panic. If they do reach the level of mityavnim, we'll talk about fixing the situation. To be honest, breaking shabbat, or praying to some Indian deity with many hands in some ashram, are far worse offences then premarital sex. So what's this hysteria about?

I am not saying this is a fix all. there are certainly religious girls out there messing around but the margin of error is greatly reduced when the top priority of girls education in the home and at school is modesty. their identity, their sexuality is built around it. without aggresive pro active education of morals and ideals that promote modesty, which is the antithisis to modern secular socity, it will onlyget worse. i walk around the streets and see mothers dressing like whores and walking right next to them is their children dressed the same. unless women/mothers get back to their true identity, their true meaning of their femininity, modesty, leading by example, nothing will change and real they have only themselves to blame.

If you noticed my comment carefully, you will find i commented on specific news, and I talked about society in general I've never said the Palestinian society is a Platonic or angelic society, in all societies there are social ills, but perhaps the reasons for this are that differ

Why is YNET lately printing such lewd articles? When reading this, it makes you realise this is a sick, sad state of the world. Religious, or not religious, separate schooling is one good option. Most importantly, interaction and communication between parents and children is vital to help bring a sense of healthy self esteem. Healthy living is a must for mind, body and soul. Get kids acquainted with the land, volunteering projects, and creativity, instead of teaching them to be "street smart". Hears to reading the good news! v soon

This does not happen in Frum circles.

This doesn't happen in the religious world??? Well Joe I dont know how it is in London, but in both Israel and the US it's extremely common that things like this happen. True its less than in the non-religious world, but its still a very very regular thing, unfortunately. About half the girls I knew around that age or slightly older experimented, and many lost control and really hurt themselves.

I really must laugh at all these TB's with the big statements and solutions. Why are people so simple-minded? This is a VERY complex issue. If you think you have a simple solution, then you are actually part of the problem. There are societal influences and pressures, peers, parents, and yes schools have their part as well. TV is definitely not helpful. Family structure, family values and finances have an impact as well. Modern life has an impact. Co-ed schools are an issue too. The best comment I've seen here is #34 "Modesty builds self-respect". These are wise words, but there is no motto that solves -everything-. But yes, modesty is a good start. What is most amazing is that EVERYONE HERE was once a young teen, and not even *one* of you seems to remember how intense emotions are at that age, how easily logic is overturned, and how impressionable youth really is, and how terribly insufficient perspective and objectivity is at that age. Unless of course -you- were born with the objectivity and perception of a mature adult. There are many things that need to be addressed, and this is not the full list. Don't pat yourself on the back thinking you know the one magic bullet solution to fix it. There is no panacea, just LOTS of problems and no one taking the time to admit they don't know everything.

Certainly not in the Hareidi/Regligious Zionist/Druze/Arab/Bedouin/Kibbutz communities! In other words - only in the secular community, and specifically the seculars that live in and around Tel Aviv.

That's the source by which you can tell the norms all over Israel?

MAzal tov. you've raised an entire generation of gross individuals that would put any American teens to shame. I remember going to Greece 3 summers ago and seeing a pack of Israeli teens on one of the ferries. I have never been so embarrassed to be a Jew. you have redefined the term "trash". Maybe some good ole fashioned traditions, morals and ethics aren't so bad after all?

I beg you to please stop doing this awful thing to yourself. I beg you to stop blamming yourself. Our society of MTV, crap rap music, and crap tv did this to you. Please understand Osher, I am NOT telling you to NOT take responsibility and control of your life. You must take ownership, but blaming yourself has zero value and it is NOT your fault. I beg you to stop today, take ownership and KNOW that you are vaulable and loved. You are deserving and you are NOT all used up. My heart is broken and I love you. Give your parents a chance. Tell them the truth, let them have a time for their shock and disbelief and then let them love you. I PROMISE you that they want you to live and find happiness. I PROMISE you that they will forgive you. The hard part will be for you to forgive yourself and for them to forgive themselves, but together your family can do anything. Please Osher, you deserve their love...let them love you. They miss you Osher.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3919400,00.html barch she'lo asani chiloni

more righteous than King David according to the Hebraic Roots Version Bible. David was great in many ways but King Yosiah (Josiah) was greater. King Yoshiah removed many heathen things David and all others neglected to do, even though David changed a lot of things. There are things David did not do that King Yosiah (Josiah) did. For King Yosiah (Josiah)'s sake, the Lord delayed judgment on Judah during his lifetime.

If Osher is as smart as Ms. Spector tells us, then it seems that she turns to sex also because she suffers from a lack of intellectual stimulation. Others turn to drugs or alcohol. She is simply bored. What ever happened to volunteering, youth movements, music, art, drama, sports, hiking, debating and all the other constructive after school activities for teenagers? And where are her parents, teachers and guidance counselors?

Maybe the problem lies not in one religion or the other, but in a double standard, and the fact that many societies overlook the promiscuity of boys, while the very girls with whom these boys “sow their wild oats” and which behavior too often earns them the title “stud,” are called “sluts.” What I find totally ironic is that most of these juvenile “studs” later on demand in a wife what they, themselves, are in no position to give. I only slapped my son's face once in his life and that was when he was 17 and I overheard him telling his 15 year old sister that “fooling around” was OK for him, but absolutely not for her. When she wanted an explanation, he cut her off with, “That's just the way it is.” It was right about then that I lost it, because this son of mine tried to feed his own sister a load of BS. He might not have stopped “fooling around” completely, but I hoped that the memory of my reaction and what I thought of his attitude, would seriously impede his efforts. I found out much later that it had. When I, trying to make a point, related the little episode to my teenage grandsons, their father piped up and laughingly assured his boys that Grandma's hand-delivered advice can make you pass on fooling around for years. Boys or girls, it all comes down to this: If you don't want to marry and spend the rest of your life with a good time that was had by all, don't be a good time for one and all..

abort babies, called "casting off children" in the Bible. Why didn't King David have the baby conceived in adultery with Batsheva aborted to cover the sin? Because abortion is an eternal death penalty offense. The murder aspect can be forgiven by God but not the failure to provide for one's own which is denying the faith. Females must act and dress chastely and avoid contact with males unless there is supervision by a relative or responsible adult until marriage. The consequences of pre-marital sex and abortion is so catastrophic it is a lifelong loss of the happiness the young should have if both are chaste when marriage occurs if the marriage is in the Lord which means both are in God's camp and true believers. The best thing for a child who has been defiled sexually to do is to regain one's chastity since virginity is gone. Finding a husband is difficult because of the defilement, so if the child is not at fault, hymen reconstructive surgery should be performed within 30 days before a marriage so there is a blood sacrifice at the beginning of the marriage. If no blood is shed, the covenant is questionable and can be annuled. A Rabbinical court can decide if the girl was at fault and deserving of hymen reconstructive surgery. Girls and boys should go to separate schools and should be supervised 24/7 to prevent pre-marital sex. If the girl and boy are both at fault then they should be cast into foster care and shunned by their families as Adam and Eve were cast out of the Garden of Eden. That will protect a remnant few, but only a few gain eternal life not the many.

Well Now that you have done what ever you wanted and ignored the Torah I supose you think you can fix it up by yourself without Torah.Good luck

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3635147,00.html (and you'll rejoice to see comments of Tallula, israel israeli & more) Another 2 Y., it'll be 11 Y.O. !!!

None of this should come as a suprise. Modern secular culture makes sexuality the key to popularity and appeal. Kids are exposed to thousands upon thousands of such messages, throughout their youth. In my many years as a professional, I've seen many girls like this. What can be done? The last few lines are key: Parents, you often have it in your power to prevent a downward spiral of your kids. Hugs, kisses, an expression of interest in how was their day, what are they thinking, what are their plans, etc. Kids who have strong relationships with their parents rarely end up in such situations. Hug your kid today. Talk to her. Let him know you love him -- and his brothers / sisters -- more than any kid in the world.

Israel has a very clear class division. I go to one of those posh rich kid schools full of embassy kids and the children of Israel's elite. The stories I hear from girl's my age are very different from this one.

She said the girls and boys in her class don't act this way except for 1 girl classmate that throws herself on the boys. Really sad reality we're living in.

A blind person could see this coming decades ago, and it has arrived and will only spread. How do you propose people deal with it?

is to mandate the niqab, bilbab, jilbab and all the other babs. Cover them from head to toe from day one, dark glasses and forbid association with males. No education, only servitude to the dominant male species, when the time comes of course, not before the family has decided to whom she must pay homage all her miserable life. Oh, I understand that this is the other extreme, but if I had to choose between the two I do not think that I would hesitate very much. And what about puberty which just happens to be a natural phenomenon that societal laws and religion have stiffled and outlawed. You can not fight nature, it is bigger than all the man made laws, it will always win.