I amaze myself that I have managed to get through life so far without having heeded the wisdom of Rabbi Steinman

.... that in a pinch, Moslem prayers can be made standing up instead of bending over. Some faiths know how to adjust to real situations.

"not allow their sons to go on trips, unless, if it cannot be helped, they go on organized tours under the appropriate supervision which prevent spiritual and earthly dangers" Those crazy boogy men. I thought Torah was choose life or choose death. The keyword being choose. The idea of monitering ones thoughts and clamping down on Hebrews to deny their freedom JUST ISNT TORAH. Rosh Hodesh for a babylonian calendar? Yom Kippur, the time where we share the sins of the evil and ask G-d to not righteously punish the evil but to share it with all including the good, Yom Kippur not mentioned in Devarim, the only book written in first person by an actual prophet. Devarim the summary at the end which states it includes everything yet doesn;t inlcuded any mention of Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur a day that introduces a yearly judgement when we see that all through the stories of the Exodus, G-d judged immediatly. Yom Kippur a day of affliction, where other teachings state you shall not afflct yourselves. "You shall give G-d an original prayer"". Sitting or standing or prostrate? Aw don't worry, the cult is not showing Emporor with no clothes. No traveling? No going over the sea? Boy we need to look at the parting of the sea of reeds thing again.

Seems like you know alot of Torah, or may I say Bible or better yet, how about the New test-and-mend. What the hell are you babbling on about, what a exactly is your point? Rosh hodesh, yom kippur???? Brother Josh in philosophy & psychology we understand that a choice has to be made out of 3 or more options. When there are only 2 options we call that an alternative. So you can alternate between actual Torah from real sages like Rabbi Steinmann & Rabbi Kanievsky or........ But either do yourself a favor and refrain from trying to redicule people who have spent 70 to 80 yrs of their life studying. Shabbat Shalom

In the test between choose life and choose death, you play goofy. "So you can alternate between actual Torah from real sages like Rabbi Steinmann & Rabbi Kanievsky or........" I could alternate into that be simple minded and accepting Rabbis can violate Devarim 4:2 by creating what you call "real". Of course that alternative is choose death and a violation of Devarim 13, 18 and most of Devarim where it says "these words". In the eyes of any cult member, their leaders are sages and devine, regardless of the truth. Purple coolaid anyone? Go put a tin-foil hat on and wait for the sages messiah mother ship. "But either do yourself a favor and refrain from trying to redicule people who have spent 70 to 80 yrs of their life studying." How is that doing anyone including but not the least oppressed Jews a favor? Being brainwashed is only a favor to the leaders of said cult. Should I consider these not a cult? The Hebrews who were slaves and uneducated, they learned Torah the day G-d gave it. They evel were righteously held accountable with the golden claf violation. So you want me to believe that same Torah now takes ten levels and seventy years to comprehend but G-d will kill me for not knowing it in the first month and bowing to a cow the preist Aaron built? Sad that these so called wise sages that you learned their names as claimed "greats" toke 7o years and yet they never enforce laws that prohibot illegally adding to Torah. This in the light that a slave Hebrew learned it in one day from Moses. So the workers at the TA Merkazit are more likely to comprehend and answer the question how to behave but your "greats" would keep putting off answers as they study 70 years? You can be thinking freely. But who dare say anything about how a cult might cloud ones judgement. How many years did Luther study Christianity and who cares? There are some that were held back in grade shcool and spent extra years studying to do what others did, so what does the element of time really mean? Efes!

Although the Amidah prayer is talked about in the Talmud, it is not talked about by Moses in the written Torah. It is absurd for anyone to think that G-d would punish anyone, due to extreme environmental limitations, such as a plane, who sits down to recite the prayer service. Relax people. Don't you have better things to talk about? This is crazy!

make comments about Halachach. Religious people live in another context.They apply a different language. Their interpretation of the world is not the same as seculars. Is that so difficult to understand? It is different the way they forge their minds( more interesting ,by the way).They have different parameters. Seculars can not understand them. Yes,I agree that in both systems all subjects should be studied in schools,and an interactions among all Jews should exist. As anothet commentator said the other day,Torah is guide to be applied here and now. But the way Ynet approuches sometimes these matters is not positive at all,in my understanding.

thinks he knows Judaism better as all the Great Jewish sages . Enredenish is arger wi a krenk .

About ?? you sound like a nut case .Leave it out. And people who work on airplanes have enough to deal with without people blocking their way and being a nuisance.

Torah guide to be applied here and now ? To return to the dark middle ages where you live in now ? To return to ignorance as you do ?

all the minyan seekers go to the back of the plane to pray!

exposed to seeing people go to work or the army. That is not good for them. They need to listen to "rabbis" that studied for 70 or 80 years and never did a stitch of work or paid taxes.

I think you are an atheist with a precious jewish soul.

of them in one country in Europe, with 25 million population (total) living there for centuries with 3/4 of them not communicating in native laungage, with 9 out of 10 unable to read and write and freeloading just the way they do now in Israel,... Have a fun ;) ,...

split,do you know them?you judge them the same way i did when i saw the football mundial,which i do not understand.i saw 22 guys with lots of agressivity,running like crazy after the ball;and as soon they got it,they could not wait to get rid of it. after one and a half hour one team could finally get the ball in the goal.they got histerically joyful,and the other team was near to suicide.i am sure the fans of this game think it is a meaningful game.

Keep it safe yo You know what they say, there aint anyone easier to brainwash than an absolute freeeee thinker.... Either way I'm really enjoying my kind of cult..., how about you? What's your cult even called.....I wonder....Fear, obsession, compulsion, addiction??????? Have a peek in the Talmud (they did'nt recieve that in the time of the golden calf) get amazingly enlightened...it's the only way to keep from being brainwashed (by actually having the knowledge be4 you utter your nonsense) Layehudim hotah Orah

A little ,... I use to live for 8 years close to Main and Union in Kew Gardens, NY,... Lost a windshield in my brand new Firebird while passing thru Crown Hights on one Saturday ,... So many times had to drive few extra miles to get back home after work because they "protested" something again and Main street was closed. Don't like fanatics and freeloaders, that's all.

As one who joined the same, I am not enjoying it. When you say "keep it safe" I understand how my free thinkng could become "unsafe" in a cult atmosphere. I didn't join up to be a slave. Wonder if Scientology is taking new members? You might enjoy it too. Wrong is wrong.

maybe i do not have a right to talk. maybe because i am iranian born and muslim. i now live in the usa in la and i see many of these jews with very strange cloths to me. but i respect them because they hold on to their beliefs. this is respectful. i do not know what they do in israel. but in the usa they behave very nicely and show a lot of love for family and children. i have no problem with people like these. also, i was lucky to affrod to travel to israel for the first time in my life because i am now holder of american passport. i fell in love with the country. when i was in jerusalem i met an old man with the same cloths and we started to talk. i right away told him i am iranian american and muslim and we talked about religion. this man invited me to his home for sabat dinner and i accepted. i never in my life saw such love in a family. it impressed me very much. i learned a lot about this religious view they have and we had a very respectful conversation. these people are peace loving and i had the feelings that they love israel but are not comfortable with the free society there. some of them do not believe in israel as a country. but i was told that these are extremists like in islam like hamas. every people have their own fanatics. but my experience with this family opened my eyes. they have different views and practice different things and i do not understand why your heart is so full of hate for them. if you know that in part of new york where they live you do not drive on saturday, why not to respect their feelings and find another street to cross? problem is solved. hameed aboughaze, iranian

i see , replaced by a lying and distorting cel . Poor guy , had to drive some extra miles . Freeloaders ? they work abroad ! illiterate ? NEVER ! Jews ALWAYS had a very high rate of literate people , more than any others . And if they were illiterate as you claim , where are those 160 + Jewish Nobels coming from ? Don't like fanatics ? so you're a SELF HATER too ?

I understand your dislike,but i think it is worth to meet these people on a more personal level,in order to discover their exceptionnel qualities which few people in the modern world have.

My enlightened friend what did old man shakespear have to say about that.............Something like "There is no right or wrong only the way you look at it" I guess you would'nt bother looking because you are so darn obsessed with ruddy cults, open a dictionary look up the ruddy word. You sound like a little scool boy, who thinks he knows #### all

But as a fake one it's normal you don't enjoty .

Don't you tell me that my heart is so full of hate for them. I's that the love you're talking about ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU

How many of this 160 noble price winners (your number keeps changing) looks like this dudes? http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/haredim-2.jpg

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099

Do yourselves a favour and get with the program. “Boys from good families who rent hotel rooms in Tiberias and gain access to impure devices”? But, no-one is forcing them to do that. They are clearly going away TO ACCESS ‘IMPURE FILTH’!!! Porn isn't broadcast routinely in Israel - you have to pay for it. And if those 'boys from good families' are paying for porn and want access to huge_tits.com it's because they are curious and are forbidden normal teenage cravings at home – and what does that make them? MORE CURIOUS! It’s beyond disgusting that they are judged and told that what they are doing is immoral, when all it really is, is healthy part of growing up. HOW DO THEY LIVE LIKE THAT!?!?!?!?!?! Are they so utterly devoid of their own sense of what is right and wrong and what is normal? Why aren’t they taught that sexual abuse is wrong, wanting and being curious about sex is FINE – whether they are Haredi, Muslim or secular. Besides, no-one needs to go away to Tiberas to see porn - Every Haredi has a phone – and almost all phones can access websites.

We were talking about East European Jews , those you said were illiterate . And they gave us around 40 Nobel prize winners , so not so illiterate . Jews had always a very HIGH % of literate people , they promoted study . And that's why Jewish contribution to humanity is the biggest of all . A pupulation of less than 0.25 % of the world gave us around 20 TWENTY % of all Nobels . Does this say something to you ? My number changing , it's artound 160 , that's all . Now you can bark your hate .

Hameed is talking about people behaving nicely in the USA . You talk about minor incidents by fanatics here . A big difference sprotje ! Shall i talk about how your "friends" behave in Europe ? urinating agasinst churches ! pushing aside local elderly people on the sidewalk . Ok . Bark your hate poor sprotje .