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Anti-Semitism feared ahead of Euro 2012
Eldad Beck
Published: 08.08.10, 13:52
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31. Seems like some soccer fans are animals
jason white ,   afula,israel   (08.08.10)
in a number of countries. Ban soccer and teach everyone baseball.
32. #27 WELL SAID CHARLES
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (08.08.10)
Maybe you aren't so bad after all.
33. POLES
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (08.08.10)
POLES....I once slid down one ,but he was well greased.
34. real enemy
olim hadashim ,   tel aviv/israel   (08.08.10)
unfortunately we have a conflict with the people with whom we should have not have it and live in peace. Instead we should fight against our real enemies and crush them since their hate is directed against our very existence as jewish people.
35. to Charles #28
bla ,   eu   (08.08.10)
He'd have no reason to live without jews to hate, that's what Peter would probably be withoutcha :-)
36. To #27 Charles
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (08.08.10)
Worse yet, he doesn't even realize that he wouldn't be in this forum to prove his stupidity over and over, if it weren't for Jewish technology. I bet, he has a cell 'phone, too. People with his delusions of adequacy give me a superiority complex and I'm only wrong-half Jewish, hahahaha.--- Charles, this is just between you and me, but I can do without Mahler. He's to me with respect to music what Picasso is to painting. One bumfuzzles my ears, the other one my eyes :-)
37. This is what you get ,...
split ,   usa   (08.08.10)
For shoving down their throats against their will your holocaust agenda. They're the third generation since the war ended they don't want to hear about it and don't want your zio-PR presence in every aspect of their life starting in 5 grade classes. They're not stupid, they see their infrastructure falling apart, schools being closed down, their favored teachers laid off because there's no money and on the other hand they see that there's no shortage of public funds for shoah museums, monuments, an educational programs, curriculums, events, festivals, cultural exchange or so called a communal property reimbursement sometimes twice like in Yeshiva School in Lublin (Poland) case to bunch of hustlers in black. This picture is very familiar all over Central and Eastern Europe and no wonder that younger generation is getting pissed off ,... Israel's apartheid policy in regard of non-Jews is providing a high octane fuel to dudes like the one on the picture. Keep it up ;) ,...
38. 32 , an appreciation has the value
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.08.10)
of who gives it . Seen your 33 , no value at all .
39. #27
Mr. Fritz Kraut ,   Germany   (08.08.10)
Charles, it is true that Jews have contributed a lot to human civilization. No doubt! But your statement that there would be NO Blood transfusions , NO Penicillin, etc. without Jews goes a bit too far. Because it includes the claim that only Jews were able to invent this. Without Jews someone else would have found out - maybe a bit later. I don't think that Non-Jews are that stupid. No vitamins? I didn't know that fruits and vegetables were also Jewish inventions.
40. #31 Quite on the contrary to American sports
Jens ,   Germany   (08.08.10)
Football has life in it. Unlike American sports such as American Football or Baseball which is only limited to violence and verbal insults.... And you call yours sport?????
41. Poland
Harris ,   West Palm Beach, USA   (08.08.10)
Charles, you forgot to add that there would be no Christianity without the Jews--Jesus, Paul and the apostles were all Jews (except one).
42. #8 Peter
Cordovero d'Espinoza ,   Montréal, Canada   (08.08.10)
Peter, here is some food for thought, assuming that you are capable of thinking : IN THE FIELD OF MEDICINE, THREE OUT OF FOUR AUSTRIAN NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS WERE JEWISH Jews became predominant in all spheres of life and contributed to Vienna’s cultural and scientific achievements; Jewish merchants, traders, entrepreneurs and businessmen contributed to the prosperity at the turn of the century. Some of the famous figures of the time included, Fanny Arstein, who hosted a salon attended by the major personalities of the time, including the emperor and Mozart. Prominent Jewish physicians included Sigmund Freud, Alfred Adler, Wilhelm Reich and Theodor Reik. Jews were also active in music and theater, including Gustav Mahler, Arnold Schonberg, Oscar Straus, Emmerich Kalman, Max Reinhardt, Fritz Kortner, Lily Darvas and Elisabeth Berner. Writers Arthur Schnitzler, Franz Kafka, Stefan Zweig and Felix Salten have also become world-renown for their works.
43. This is not anti-Semitism
Tomek ,   Poland   (08.09.10)
First of all, the pictures associated with this article are not from Poland. They are some stock pictures from, most likely, Germany. Having a swastika tattooed on your head would not be acceptable in Poland even among soccer hooligans. The behavior of Polish soccer fans is not anti-Semitism as such. In Polish, the word for 'a Jew' (żyd) carries negative connotations - it is not for me to explain why it is this way. So young people who go to soccer matches (and they are not the brightest bunch - 'normal' people do not go anywhere near soccer stadiums as it is too dangerous) use it to offend their perceived adversaries. When they do it, they do not express their dislike of Jews but rather their dislike of the other team's supporters. Somehow they believe that calling someone a Jew is offensive. Language is a strange thing.
44. Unfortunately, this article is quite accurate.
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (08.09.10)
Poland will have to get it's act together for the European Championship or appear rather backward to the west of us. The funny thing is that most of these ''football fans/hooligans'' have never met a Jew in their lives and wouldn't know what to say to one if they did..... much like you Peter... You therefore resolve your problem by coming here to meet us,ja... Your compatriot, Sigmund Freud would interpret your daily presence here as nothing less than unrequited love for us, in spite of your nasty comments.
45. story was biggest load of crap.. a whole story on what ifs??
Daniel ,   Tel Aviv   (08.09.10)
what ifs for racist against black players, what ifs for rowdy people, what ifs for overcrowding, what ifs for hotel prices rocketing, what ifs for the booming prostitute industry? But what amazing self confidence in ourselves that to publish a whole story on how we will suffer if we go. Thats it, media propaganda scaring jews into not leaving Israel. While Europes Jews just plod along. I am well convinced FIFA will be well aware of what lunatics are planning on coming to any games, as in the world cup, referal to personal games bans , life ban, face recognition software. This whole story was a farce. The assumption anywhere in Europe cant hold an event without the obvious threat to us Jews??
46. Charles, Patach Tikva
David ,   USA, exile   (08.09.10)
And what of you Charles? What do you offer? So far, I see nothing but being critical of others. Do you not have a contribution from your live to the world from your Jewishness? Tell us Charles, besides your talkbacks that criticize others what have you done for your people and your nation? Anything at all? Give us a hint. Any little thing will do.
47. #43 your hand moves as my cat's tail !!
aviG   (08.09.10)
you believe you think something but you write otherwise, just re-read yourself !!
48. #44 right on about Peter !
aviG   (08.09.10)
49. # 39
Cordovero d'Espinoza ,   Montreal, Canada   (08.09.10)
Dear Mr Fritz Kraut Formally, you are right : if the Jew Gustaf Herz had not discovered the hertzian waves, they would have been discovered by someone else a bit later. However, I don't think you would appreciate to be told that if Gutenberg had not invented printing, someone else etc. You would be right, because you are right to be proud of this immensely beneficent genius. Just as we, Jews, (0,02 % or the world population) have the right to be proud of the glorious contribution or our scores of Nobel prize winners, of our great writers, artists and composers, of our sublime prophets and of our unique Bible. Besides, your remark does not apply universally. There could be only one Mozart and one Beethoven. For about one billion Christians, there is only one «Saviour of the world», and there could be no other : the Jew Rabi Jeshua ben Iosseph ben Miriam. As for vitamins, fruits and vegetables are not Jewish inventions, but Casimir Funk who created the word «vitamin» and George Wald, Nobel Prize winner for his work involving vitamins were Jews.
50. #8 Peter
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (08.09.10)
Dear Herr Compassion, I am no fan of Zionism, but contrary to many Zionists on this site, I in no way equate that to being anti Jewish. You and I quite obviously had differing reactions to this article. It made me weep. Perhaps your opinion is good for ratings but I see no other value to it. If someone has an opinion, even if it is anti semitic , it should be their right to express it. One would hope in an ideal world that there would be others to counter such expressions and convince the person of the ignorance of their thinking. Where were the Poles who stood up up and denied this vile manifestation of hatred? Reading about these events was troubling, sad and painful. Adding your commentary was just cheap.
51. TOMEK, can you beleive what you write
Jorge ,   Tegucigalpa   (08.09.10)
If calling someone you dislike or hate a JEW, is not antisemitism, what could that be. What is really sad, is the lack of OUTRAGE on this behavior by most of the non Jewish writers to this talkback, and the matter of fact acceptance, that it is normal to be offensive to Jews, and that the fact that Jews dare to be offended, it is in bad taste.
52. for stupidity it's hard to beat. don't these swine know
dante ,   uk   (08.09.10)
don't these morons know anything about polish history? don't they know anything about german plans for the poles? don't they know that the germans regarded the poles as subhuman?
53. 39
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.09.10)
Casimir Funk has discovered that some substances in food can prevent or heal illnesses . He called them "vitamines" . Of course that they were there , but he has found what they can do . ....the claim that only Jews were able ....It were Jews !
54. 37 , as if there was NO asntisemitism
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.09.10)
in Eastern Europe before the Shoa . No murders , no pogroms made by your ancestors ?
55. to # 39 . Your name !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.09.10)
fritz was the derogatory name given to the nazi soldiers . kraut , the derogatory name given to their predecessors , the German soldiers in WWI . Proud of them that you take this name ?
56. tomek is right those bunch of dumbs dumbs
ghostq   (08.09.10)
do not represent the population, they r the lowest of society and it is light years from being main stream Polin phenomena, and no Tomek that thing is no German only, many neo nazis today you can find in nord countries and even in the USA.
57. to #40 Jens football origin is in amerika
ghostq   (08.09.10)
the mayans invented it useing rubber ball and their hippes, the losing team would be sacrified to pagan god, but toward the end of the empire they didn't executed they basically just used it for sport and not for religious ritual. white people who conquered amerika brought the sport to europ from amerika, so pleas put things inprespective, the thing is brits twisted everything including using football as sport, they r too good for the rest of the world they actually invented the rogby or what became Amerikan football, again brits and bad tast go hand in hand.
58. to #40 Soccer has life in it? Like paint
jason white ,   afula,israel   (08.09.10)
drying has life in it. What violence is there in American Football outside of the sport itself? And baseball? They run out on the field and yell at the umpires. And this year after seeing a few plays wrongly judged by the umps, the arguments were correct 100% in a few games. There are no neo nazi signs and uniforms at the games.There are no racist remarks yelled out. People would be arrested on the spot. Soccer should be played by elderly people. With them using walkers to get around the field.
59. #51
Tomek ,   Poland   (08.09.10)
You are clearly missing the point. If somebody calls you a dog, does it mean they are anti-dog or anti-you? I fact, the person who calls you a dog may actually love dogs. They simply use an abstract concept of a dog because THEY believe that YOU would be offended when called as such.
60. To Tomek
Martin ,   Washington DC   (08.09.10)
Dzien dobry. Why does "zyd" have a negative connotation in Poland? If the word "Catholic" had a negative connotation, it would be because of anti-Catholicism, just as it is because of antiSemitism that "zyd" has a negative connotration for some in Poland. I am not saying that all Poles are antiSemites, but you can't seriously argue that the soccer hooligans aren't.
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