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Ethiopian bride's fight for Jewish marriage
Tova Dadon
Published: 15.09.10, 16:40
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1. WHY THESE RABBIS LIKE TO MAKE PEOPLE LIFE DIFFICULT ?
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (09.15.10)
THEY HAVE A LOT TO REPENT FOR YOM KIPPUR !
2. Its about time! Civil marraige now!
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (09.15.10)
3. KOL HaKAVOD
Ben ,   ATL   (09.15.10)
MAZAL TOV to this woman and like-minded people. Who the hell is ANY rabbi to question the validity of someone's Jewishness? Civil marriage is a different issue, but I am thrilled that she won this battle and hope she and her husband have a great life together.
4. Our Sister
David Fakheri ,   Los angles   (09.15.10)
No wonder !. These days are very suitable times for the rabies '' To ask forgiveness '' from the same god who created them and our sister the Ethiopian Jew Girl!. David Los Angles
5. marraige
colin   (09.15.10)
When is this corrupt lies government going to allow civil marraiges. Many thousands of young couples in any case go to Cypress to get married Who needs the extortion of the rabbis. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Or are these cowardly corrupt politicians thinking of thier pockets and not the population or the country.????
6. Orthodox Rabbis have the last say if she's Jewish or not.
Shalom   (09.15.10)
If the Rabbi says she's not Jewish, probably because she did not accept all the mitzvot, she's 100% a goy. She can go back to Ethiopia if she doesn't like his ruling. When you bring goyim into the Jewish land they fight with Rabbis.
7. Good for her!
Liz   (09.15.10)
I am glad she stuck to her guns, but sick that this happened, and is happening all the time to Ethiopian Jewish couples.... It just proves what a load of %&%$ the whole rabbanut system is! Good luck to her and her husband in their married life.
8. Those who have converted
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.15.10)
to Christianity can no longer be trusted to have maintained any Jewish purity, it's like trusting Hamas in kitchen to keep your dishes kosher.
9. End the rabbanut monopoly on marriage
Israeli   (09.15.10)
Most of us can't stand the rabbanut but most end up marrying through them because it is easier than going abroad. This has to end.
10. End harassment of anusim and likes
Dr. Guy ,   Washington DC, USA   (09.15.10)
This woman's grandparents were likely forcibly converted to Christianity and likely secretly maintained their Judaism, like millions of Anusim alive today whose ancestors were forced to convert to Christianity or Islam. We should not give Anusim a hard time, but rather do our utmost to return them to the fold of Judaism. Giving the descendants of Anusim a hard time is shameful and dangerous to the survival of the Jewish people.
11. #6 40% of the Russian Aliyah isn't Jewish...
(09.15.10)
I haven't heard you organizing flights back to Russia for them! Your comments sound racist and completely unfair!
12. #8 please do sit down long enough to read this...
(09.15.10)
I am a Sephardi Jew -- a Samach Tet and yet in our family tree over 500 years ago we had a few family members who were forced to convert and it took them a while to come back to Judaism. My son is a Cohen because I married a Cohen and there is no issue over the fact that I have ancestors who were forced to convert to Christianity. Your comments are insensitive, hurtful and illogical. You really need to ask yourself why your insecurity brings you to make such bambastic statements!
13. #8 Paulus
Noa   (09.15.10)
1. What you are doing is Lashon HaRa. 2. If her grandmother was Jewish she is Jewish never mind of the conversion to Christianity, or am I missing something? 3. I have the feeling as if Rav Amar seldom has time for speaking clear words and making clear decisions when it comes to conversion issues.
14. very interesting situation
THE GREAT KHAN ,   Kandahar,Afghanistan   (09.16.10)
My dear Jewish bros and sisters i hope you had wonderful new year but this article is intersting.Some of you may know of my people from Afghanistan and Pakistan that many Pukhtoons are Bani Israel.We have 2700 years of traditions and even the name afghanistan is named after the grandson of Shaul,but what is interesting is when me and my people 1 day break from islam and return to Jerusalem how will we be viewed?I myself am of Yousafzai its meaning sons of Yousaf but there are more tribes afridi,gadooni,waziri,rabbani and the mousahim.i am wondering how u can demand someone to convert if there ancestors are Bani Israel and have many old ways.as i say it is a very intersting situation my dear bros and sisters.i can understand u not trusting so much someone who accepted polytheism religion liek xtians but what about islam its not polytheism but i will admit i dont think it was mean for bani israel. and by saying this im sure there are some who would be terribley angry with me and some who would agree.but anyway very interesting situation.Khudai Hafiz
15. THE SHAME IS THOSE RABBIS WHO *FINALLY GAVE IN.SHE AINT JEW
....DACON9   (09.16.10)
NO RECORDING OF HER LINEAGE. GRANDPARENTS CONVERTED. NO MENTION OF HER PARENTS LIFE STYLE NO MENTION OF HERR LIFE STYLE USUALLY THOSE AFRICAN EAST COAST TRIBES WERE PAGANS ,MISSIONARIES CONVERTED THEM TO ACCEPT IDOLS WHICH WAS EASY FOR PAGANS..AND *JEWISHNESS* WAS FROM THE JEWISH TRADERS BUYING AND SELLING AND COVORTING WITH THE LOCAL AFRICANS LEAVING THEIR SIDDORS RUNNING AWAY FROM THE TRIBAL CHIEF... SHE AINT A JEW SHE WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED NOR HER CHILDREN EXCEPT IN THE WACKO FRINGE SO CALLED '''JEWS'''. THESE KINDS END UP IN THE JEWS4IDOLWORSHIP GROUPS.
16. GOOD FOR HER!!!
Dov Glass ,   TA, IL   (09.16.10)
WAY TO STICK WITH YOUR BELIEFS!!! CONGRATS!!! @#6 i feel sorry for you
17. #12 you are indeed a Jew
Sealift67 ,   northern california   (09.16.10)
Those of us from the wrong branch eg reform: No one can tell me or my children we are not Jews. Hitler made no such distinction. For most it is a matter of faith, belief, heritage. To me any one with a true heart and true belief can stand behind mogan d' avramham as a member of my tribe. And yes #8 we may argue with the rabbi's they are not anointed priests beyond reach of questions or debate.
18. I don't believe this story:/
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19. 17 Why do you accept Hitler as authority to define Jews?
Thinking Jew ,   Israel   (09.16.10)
20. 15 You are a hypocrite racist, NOT a Jew!
Israeli Jew ,   Israel   (09.16.10)
You spew vile sinas chinom and chilul hashem
21. An easy way out
Shalom Hartman   (09.16.10)
When the anusim returnto Judaism, they enter a mikveh as a cleansing process. All this young lady was asked to do was go to a mikveh; she was not required to be Shabbat observant; she wasn't required to eat kosher or keep any other mitzvot, just enter a mikveh with a female mikveh attendant present. If she was not prepared to do this, it seems to me that she was looking more to make headlines than to get married.
22.  MIKVAH ....KOL NIDREI FOR ALL ORTHODOX JEWS TOO :-)
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (09.16.10)
23. #21, yeah sure, only hydrophobic
Noa   (09.16.10)
How do you know she doesn't keep Shabat? She wanted to make clear that she is Jewish. Why should she be considered a convert for all her life, and the children be considered as children of a convert if it is her right to be considered Jewish? It is very easy for someone whose Jewish existence is not called into question to advise someone elso to just go into the Mikvah. The Mikva is not the point, she would go tere anyway before the wedding!
24. To #15
Yehudi ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.16.10)
Without a doubt you are not a Jew! There is not a Jew in the world who would speak the way you do. What you wrote is beneath contempt. I am really surprised that Ynet published your comments.
25. #20, I AM A JEW, A REALISTIC, AND I DONT GIVE LAND AWAY
......DACON9   (09.16.10)
YOU DONT KNOW THE LAWS OF chillul HASHEM NOR THE HALACHA OF SINAT CHINLOM. YOU HAVE TO LEARN MORE THEN TO SPIT OUT BUZZ WORDS. YOU DONT RISK A COMMUNITY. YOU PROTECT A COMMUNITY 4 YRS OF RABBIS REFUSING HER IS ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ME. UNFORTUNATELY RABBIS SUCCUMBED TO PRESSURE AND RELY ON ME TO PICK UP THE SWORD AND SHIELD. did YOU pack you bags because the arabs will claim your hoome next and in the interest of world love for you, you will agree to ''disengage your home'' for world love and the false arab claims and so you dont use baseless hatred and so you do kiddush hashem. USING HASHEMS NAME ALONE #15,,, WHEN YOU DONT KNOW THE LAWS AND HISTORY IS A CHILLUL HASHEM. I GAVE HISTORICAL FACT . SO MUCH SO THAT THE ''HISTORY CHANNEL HAD A DOCUMENTARY OF THESE AFRICAN JEWS IN ETHIOPIA HAVE STARS OF DAVID WITH A CROSS IN THE CENTER IN THEIR GRAVEYARDS TOMBSTONES... TIME TO WAKE UP LIBERAL JEWS AND DO WHAT KING DAVID DID. HE FOUGHT FOR HIS HASHEMS LAND AND PROTECTED IT WITH THE SANCTIONS OF THE RABBIS
26. So much racism and false supremacy. Grow up and avoid cult
Josh   (09.16.10)
27. Jewish marriage
Nili   (09.16.10)
Nobody knows the whole story, but I will say that I live near an Ethiopian area and sad to say, it is hard to consider them Jewish. That being said, if all they asked her to do was a mikveh, what's the problem? My best friend was born here as were all her family back to the beginning. She had to go to the mikveh before her huppah, as have all my other friends. This article makes the act of immersion sound like a punishment!
28. 25 Ur opinion AIN'T fact! Israel rabbis DON'T depend on NYer
Israeli ,   Israel   (09.16.10)
How did you catch Jerusalem Syndrome in Brooklyn???
29. Nili there is a difference between a prewedding mikvah...
(09.16.10)
which all Israeli Jewish woman who choose to follow through with a standard Jewish wedding (read Orthodox) in Israel and the conversion mikvah that this young woman was told to perform. Please do understand that going to the mikvah for the purpose of conversion is different from going just before a wedding.
30. Welcome back DACON
i ,   jerusalem   (09.16.10)
Haven't heard much from you lately, least the places I haunt. Gmar Tov and a good sweet year.
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