Racist piece of claptrap that I have just read. It's okay for Jews born in Argentina to claim citizenship of a country they were not born it, but the indigenous population have no right of return. Well, Mr Taub can argue his self-serving argument for decades and decades and try and convince himself of his own self-righteous racist discrimination, but there is one very simple fact: Before 1948 the territory referred to as Palestine was home to hundreds of thousands of non-Jews. They were turfed out of their homes. Their assets and property were confiscated and transferred via the KKL to Jewish-only ownership in some clever form of legal fiction which included that dreadful concept of nokhakhim ne'darim (go and look it up). It is all so Kafka-esque that if it were not true it would be rejected as the plot of an absurdist novel. Moreoever, one more question: If Jews can reclaim their property in Lublin, Warsaw, Budapest, Berlin, etc. why is it that non-Jews cannot reclaim their property (or the value thereof) in Beisan or Lydda? Answer is: because Israeli law is, unlike any other country in the western political hemisphere, based on this foul and fetid ethnic classification of its inhabitants. I have to say 'inhabitants' and not 'citizens' as any cursory reading of history shows us that the Yishuv and the fledging state made very effort to disinherit and expropriate the property of the non-Jews in the territory - a process which continues until today. The state was founded on a lie, and was constructed physically upon the remains and ruins of a once-thriving society and culture. Well done.

ok, you stole lands and homes and kill people for more than 60 years now and you talk about law ! reality is the jews are tow parts sons of israel and none sons of israel , for sons of israel they were a people of this land and they have the right to reside here (state of majority) NOT TO KILL AND STEAL LANDS from palestinian and make a state , for the second part none sons of israel they have nothing to do here

by taking these terrorists in ...they must NEVER be absorbed into Israel - Israel has enough internal terrorism from the arabs as it is. THey must return to the true palestinian state of Jordan.

Do not be naive. It is not as if there has been no refugee population until the Palestinians came along. The key to NOT being a refugee is to be resettled. Which thus far (sixty-plus years, in fact), the Arab nations have refused to do for their Palestinian brethren. How is that the fault of Israel? I remind you that the tiny and beleaguered State of Israel managed to absorb three million refugees in the first five years of its existence, and then more coming from the Arab and Islamic world in the aftermath of Israel's stunning victory in the Six-Day War. There are twenty-one Arab nations; let the Palestinians go live in any of them. Thomas Mann had it pretty much right -- you cannot always go home again. And the Palestinians were voluntary quits.

need to get educated and learn history. Obviously, 800,000 Jews driven out of arab lands is ok , but arabs who started 5 wars with Jews and ran from their homes have legitimate complaints. Jews were in Israel long before the arab colonialists. Bigots like you are just jealous of Jews and their accomplishments. If you don't like it Stick where the sun doesn't shine.

First off we are not like you - we are a sovereign nation and our immigration laws are none of your concern. Second Ireland, Germany, Japan and Greece all have very similar laws yet only Israel is singled out. Making you the racist not us. Third they are not the 'indigenous population'. Over 90% have were not native here and have never been here. So hardly 'indigenous'. As for Jews reclaiming their lands - the difference is that they did own that land. Over 80% of the Arabs that chose to leave did not own anything at all. That too is a fact. As a colonial nation you have nothing to teach us, the natives of the region. End your occupation and take your colonists back from 25% that you murdered for and stole from the natives.

Funny. Really funny. Thank you for the laugh. You're from the U.K. In the 1960s, the U.K. enacted a grandiose measure which afforded U.K. citizenship to anyone from a former Commonwealth nation or British colonial holding. About six weeks later, when you were drowning in Indians, Pakistanis, Jamaicans and Africans, the U.K. rescinded that law. How was the State of Israel founded on a lie? And, moreover, it was constructed on barren, neglected and forsaken land. Once-thriving society? Not since 72 A.D., bubbeleh. Jews are builders, dear. Arabs are destroyers. You need look no further than history to figure that one out. Well done.

countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would have expected a slightly less knee-jerk response. "We are a sovereign nation and our immigration laws are none of your concern" Actually, they are. As I could get an Israeli passport tomorrow. So, babes, as long as Israeli law thinks it might want to offer me a passport, it is my concern. " Ireland, Germany, Japan and Greece all have very similar laws... Yes, maybe, but those similar laws do not withhold citizenship from hundreds of thousands of people born there, to families who have lived there for generations. Chalk and cheese. 'Over 90% (of the Palestinians) were not native here.' Self-delusion, matey. However, all in all I'm thrilled to note that your message, in the last parargraph, did not descend into any sort of ignorant blaming me for the conduct of the British before I was born. That would have been a moronic way to end the discussion.

As some people find it acceptable to throw out high-falutin' advice by quoting from Thomas Mann, I should like to ask you what your feelings would be if your USA home was expropriated and you were never allowed back even to visit? Would you really turn your back, shrug your shoulders and quote Thomas Mann "you cannot always go home again"? I suspect you'd have twenty four law firms lined up firing off legal suits against the expropriating authority, I suspect you'd have another twenty four lawyers working on un-freezing your bank account at Chase Manhattan and a couple more lawyers working on making sure your children can get US citizenship. Or perhaps you only think the Palestinians should shrug their shoulders and accept their losses because, hey, after all, heck, they are only non-Jews?

Intellectually indefensible point. Israel won all the wars; including the one in 1967 in which it acquired the West Bank. That was a defensive war (Jordan attacked Israel; not the other way around) and, therefore, according to all accepted international convention, Israel has a perfect right to settle the West Bank. If the Arabs don't like it -- tough. That's the price you pay for starting wars you do not win. Tee-hee.

Oh, that's way too easy. Why not ask me how I would feel if my parents were kicked out of their homes, sent to a concentration camp and had very nearly all of their family massacred? All their property, bank accounts and personal holdings lost forever. Go ahead, ask me. I will tell you. Now, those would be questions to which I can relate. You can then ask me how I might feel about the fact that the fully-paid up life insurance policies on my grandparents' lives have been very carefully disregarded (Winterthur says it cannot honor life insurance policies without properly-executed death certificates, and guess what? Auschwitz just was NOT in the habit of issuing any.) Chase Manhattan, by the way, is no longer. It's JPMorgan Chase. Thought you might want to know that. The Palestinians voluntarily left their homes; promised by their Arab leadership that the "conquering Arab armies (1948)" would throw the Jews into the sea, and then they could come back. You will note, I trust, that the Arabs that did NOT listen to their "leadership" are citizens of Israel to this day, with all of the rights and only a few of the obligations. One quick question: what do YOU think should be allotted the Jews who were forced out of their homes in the Islamic and Arab worlds, with little more than the clothes on their backs, both in 1948 and then again following the Six-Day War? Over a million of them. Do they enjoy a "right of return?" Do they enjoy a right of recovery? Or do you think they should just shrug their shoulders and accept their losses because, hey, after all, they're just Jews?

Even the Koran recognizes that the Jews are the indigenous population of Israel, not the Arabs. But let's say that you don't accept the Koran. The fact is that until 1920, Israel's population was very small and included Druze, Bedouin, Turks, Jews, non-Arab Christians, Arab Christians and a small number of Muslim Arabs. As soon as the British took over Israel (under the pretext of helping the Jews reestablish a sovereign state) they discouraged Jewish immigration (thus helping the Germans in the Final Solution) while encouraging illegal Muslim Arab immigration from the surrounding countries. I would challenge you: to make peace we agree to repatriate (to Syria, Lebanon, Iraq) all Arab Muslims whose ancestors immigrated to Israel since 1920 as these people are certainly not indigenous and then start negotiations with the real "Palestinians": Arab Muslims who lived here before 1920. Do you accept the challenge?

The article is flawed and irrelevant the real situation on the ground. The Zionist colonialist masters of international politics are bankrupt of new ideas on how to sustain a viable lasting Jewish State. They are bankrupt internally, how to deal with different sects of Judaism and Jewish national backgrounds and with other population native minorities. Further more, they are losing the moral argument to sustain the Jewish State to international communities. It is the most critical of all is losing grounds among the Diaspora Jews, “particularly among, the younger generations …..Morally, American Zionism is in a downward spiral.” By Peter Beinart. May 12, 2010, New York Review Books. “Diaspora Jews are regaining their independence and questioning Israel’s moral and intellectual foundations” By Antony Loewenstein, John Docker and Ned Curthoys. Mar 31 2010, Newmatilda.com.

No, the facts on the ground are that Jews have kicked Arab ass. Tee-hee. Deal with it.

if it means my mothers family get there house back from Morrocco and my fathers family theres from Yemen.

If the thinking goes this way then we jews are entitled to regain back half of the Arab land mass since millions of jews were dispossed and expelled from Arab countries.

Plenty of Jews are not coming to Israel, Law of Return or not!

I hate it when you answer someone's questions and they don't respond. So disappointing! Was it something I said?

"Gosh darn"? Madam, I thought you said you were from New York?

<1) The palestinian "right of return" is based on 1951 Convention Related to the Status of Refugees and additional protocol of 1967> I wouldn’t say that this is the ‘only’ basis as other points of references can be made. Actually it doesn’t. The convention also covers other matters such as who cannot be classed as a refugee and provisions/rights of refugees etc. Either way the convention itself has to be taken in conjunction with other UN bodies such as the UNHRC which is charged with defining who qualifies for refugee status. Let me be clear on this point: it is up to the UN (not individual countries) to determine the universal rights of refugees. Commonsense should also make it clear that if a woman living in a refugee camp gives birth 5 minutes, 5 days, 5 months or even 5 years after becoming a refugee camp that her child/children are also refugees as there is no time limitation on refugee status. <2) The jewish right of return is based on RECOGNITION of existing jewish national rights> What *existing* ‘national rights’? Clearly the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judea where not recognized by the League of Nations. Neither did the national rights enjoyed by Jews in host countries have any bearing and as we all know ‘Palestine’ was never a ‘country’ so what “existing Jewish national rights” are you talking about?! Either way for the San Remo Resolution to have merit you have to show that it was adopted by the United Nations and that the adopted resolution was enforceable/binding, either of which you can do. <3) The wording of UNSCR 242 regarding "just settlement of refugee problem" is devious and politically charged, and can not and should not exceed the provisions of the aforementioned 1951 treaty> Actually that is solely a matter for the UN to decide. It does not specify existing or future only “every State in the area” therefore can be interpreted as either way. They hardly matter as you were clearly incorrect in the first place as I have just pointed out.

I would not respond to any obscene language.

Sure am. I can get a whole heckuva lot saltier than that. And frequently do .....

It is remarkable that any Israeli Jew, outside a lunatic asylum, favors the Two State Final Solution. Have they never examined a map? Israel's waist would be trimmed to just 8 miles. A mere three hour liesurly hike for our enemies to cut our state in half. Every city and town in Israel would come under constant rocket attack. Israel would be inundated by hostile Arabs. The Two State Final Solution is total madness. Say "YES" to Israeli annexation of Judea and Samaria. These lands rightfully belong to Jews, and have for more than 3,500 years. Moreover, they are vital for Israel's security.

That is exactly what the Arabs want. Just by their sheer number will make israel an Arab nation. They cannot conquer you by force, so they will do it legitimately by out-voting you in any Israeli elections in the future. Make the UN recognise the Right of Return for Jews in Arab lands and see what reactions that bring.

after 2000 years they wanted to return back their homeland .... i think palastinians will not take these so long years and it will not palastinians demand it will be moslemes and arab demand .. i think it is not about right it is about power

Guess who's got the power? And guess who has no rights except that which the ones with the power very generously and graciously give them? By the way -- your knowledge of history is quite deficient. Present-day so-called "Palestinians" come from the Hejaz, in the Western Arabian desert. If they really want a homeland, they need to chat with the Saudis. Good luck with that one.

First of all, shana tova; gmar hatima tova. Of course Israel will annex Judea and Samaria; the Palestinians will have to leave (thanks to King Hussein's grand -- and irrevocable -- proclamation in 1950, they and their progeny are citizens of Jordan, anyway). They pollute our state with their presence; they corrupt us with their violence; they are leeches and parasites and a plague upon the House of Israel. We need to be whom we are; we need our state to be a reflection of that; we need the land for purposes of security. Too bad the Arabs lost all those wars which they initiated, isn't it? Oh well. Can't put toothpaste back into the tube. Am Israel chai.