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CNN report: IDF sexually abused Palestinian children
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Published: 09.09.10, 21:23
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61. oh no. certainly(C) not(N) the news(N) belched. my oh my
ralph   (09.10.10)
62. "slave labour" Smuel from Billings?
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (09.10.10)
You've been living in an area devoid of Jews for too long, I think. they're foreign workers who get paid well for their services and their children. I, too, am against their deportation but you've overdramatized and your facts are incorrect. Better you should trade in the cold winter in Billings for a warmer one in Israel where you can discover for yourself what is really going on. In the meantime, please be careful of what you say and write as we (Israelis) are having enough difficulties just trying to veer the worlds' antisemites from denigrating our collective reputation.
63. #51 There are no facts
Cynthia ,   USA   (09.10.10)
This was shoddy reporting by Paula Hancocks. No wonder CNN's ratings are so low. As the IDF spokeswoman stated, if the Palestinians have complaints, they can document the incidents by filing a report so the IDF can investigate.
64. usually starts with denying facts, ends with a Goldstone's
observer   (09.10.10)
65. News
John ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
An uncorroborated story makes headlines while a fully corroborated story, such as the one on France expelling nearly 10,000 Romas from their country, is barely making world news. The world is on its head.
66. CNN is worse than Al-Gazira...
Jonathan   (09.10.10)
It is shocking how Hamas abuses Palestinian children indeed - but why would they criticize a terrorist organization ? Hamas generates so many stories for the CNN, that's the goose with the golden eggs (which CNN seems to have sworn to support). I want the evidence and the claim.
67. cable nonsense news should be kicked
jason white ,   afula,israel   (09.10.10)
out of Israel along with the b.b.c. and al jazera. We have enough homegrown anti Israel media nuts as is. c.n.n. should be sued for libel. The government should make sure there are spokespeople to handle this 24/7/365. Forget holidays and make sure there is someone there to reply to these lies. If the I.D.F. is there to protect us all the time, then so should over paid under worked government employees.
68. #32, even worse it was Hebrew U
Danny   (09.10.10)
which is meant to be a serious university
69. Taqiyya LIES is part of Islamic War Strategy
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.10.10)
Demonizing Israel and propagating monstrous lies is a 24/7 operation by the Islamo Nazis.
70. DOES ANYONE HAVE THE LINK?
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.10.10)
I was looking for the report on CNN and couldn't find it. If anybody has the link to the story, let me know, I want to see how bad it really is. I'm always interested in the latest PALLYWOOD productions.
71. Mark from Georgia, the link
Elmer ,   USA   (09.10.10)
You can see the CNN report here: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/09/09/hancocks.me.children.chains.cnn I am more than skeptical.
72. Stay classy Israel!
Scott Smith ,   Weakbeer, Utah, USA   (09.10.10)
Wow, human trafficking, organ theft rings, institutionalized rape of children.., God's chosen indeed.
73. #71...good link
Malone ,   Hfx   (09.10.10)
What a crock,not a shred of evidence...Pallywood at its finest..I hope this damages CNN badly!
74. So what?
Fabio ,   Washingtown, US   (09.10.10)
Everybody, don't you forget that we, the Jews, are the chosen people. Therefore, we can do whatever we feel like doing NO QUESTIONS ASKED, NO GUILT FELT. GOT IT? By the way, screw you all!
75. it is yet again lible,Protocols Garbage resurfacing!
chris ,   wales   (09.10.10)
This is Disgraceful of CNN..Nno Evidence and they know this will inflame the alreday ANTI-SEMITES Around the World! this is yet another false aligation which will be proven false but after the damage has been done! Israel needs to condemn the CNN For this Blatand OURAGOUS Accusations! You can be sure this was meant to coincide with the pressure already upon Israel to find a deal with the palestinians..CNN Should be reporting the facts that palestinians don't want to recognize israel,this is a Diversion! Israel should take CNN To Court for reporting such lies! lies are believed in the arab World and used as per+ usual to Demonize Israel!
76. I THINK THIS IS A DELIBERATE STUNT BY THE PALESTINIANS
chris ,   wales   (09.10.10)
This must be a deliberate stunt by the palestinians few days after they revealed they will not Recognize Israel as a Jewish State. this is part of the Lies to convince the World Jews cannot be trusted and cannot safeguard their Security! I am Sick to death with the Palestinians now..Israel should tell the wholöe world to Mind their own business.."WEST BANK" Is supposed to be DISPUTED LAND..Not Occupied as such.Occupation does not mean those who occupy the Area are not the rightful Ownsers. this is a lesson to Israel you are dealing with HORRIBLE People that just want to defame JEWS!!This is beyond anything to use such Evil lies as this..YOU CAN BET THAT THIS WILL INFLAME THE ARAB WORLD YET MORE.. CNN SHOULD BE TAKEN TO COURT!
77. #72 - nice of you to brand an entire people, racist
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
But I bet you're the first to stand up and support Muslims after the 9/11 attacks and the dancing in the streets. That aside, it's also nice to see you don't waste time on facts or even logic, since you feel comfortable bellying up to the media "feed tube" for 25-second bites and accept them as fact. I didn't recall seeing you here or hearing your condemnation, generalizing about an entire population, when the following nations had nationals involved in human trafficking, organ theft, rape of children....China, Russian, Iraq, Belgium, Mexico, Colombia, US, Canada, UK, Egypt, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, France, Australia, Malaysia, Indonesia, S. Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Holland, Ukraine, Sudan, Congo, Nigeria.....
78. #51 - shouldn't media be held to same standards?
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
You seem to back the media in unproven accusations and place the burden on the IDF to prove them wrong. There have been tons of rumors proven wrong by the IDF and 3rd party investigators. But once the story runs, the damage is done, even if the media retracts it later. I believe it was immature for CNN to post this story unless it was investigated thoroughly. Aftonbladt, in Sweden, made accusations of organ theft that even the Palestinians cited in the story claimed they never said.
79. #49 - there is no precedent of it except in your mind
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
You have built up the IDF to be such monsters that you conclude such sexual acts would be a nature extension. There's no proof of it now nor in the past, but that doesn't disturb your beliefs based on your own opinions. I guess because you see it happen in Africa often and among the Arab State almost regularly, you must assume all nations participate in such crimes. However, let me point out to you that these sexual crimes happen so little, if at all, among the IDF that a thesis came out of Ben Gurion University accusing the IDF of being racists because they DON'T rape "Palestinians". Add to that the denouncing by "Palestinian" women prisoners of Turkish accusations of sexual abuse at the hands of the IDF, stating they were not true even 0.01% So who to believe. A self-righteous racist in French Canada...or "Palestinians" themselves. Tough call.
80. #58 - Palestinians never had credibility
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
Let's face it, the IDF is late to the PR war but it has began to use lots of video that have showed Arabs in very bad lights. It proved the terrorist activity on the flotillas. It proved the faked "deaths" and faked "funerals" led for the media. 3rd party investigators found the claimed death of Al-Dura (12 year old in Gaza) was a complete hoax. The so-called death of a younger brother of Gaza photographer was fabricated as cited by professionals who watch doctors perform CPR on him with only light touches and no respirator or visible blood. The Jenin Massacre - also a lie. The list goes on, and since it began in 1920 with fake rumors of Jews destroying Al-Aqsa, and 1948 fake Deir Yassin story - the "Palestinians" were born without credibility. Sorry Split - you just lose.
81. #58 - innocent until proven guilty
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
Sorry - Split, you want the world to have US democracy but deny it to those you dislike. Doesn't work that way. You're right - its the kids word against the IDF. The kid has the burden of proof, and if the "assault" he claims happened, there would be visible marks and tissue torn. Rape victims in the US are forced to provide proof...so.
82. #57 - you tell us where he got them from
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
Nothing the article cites organs coming from "Palestinians". Tied to a former story, the source of organs coming from "vulnerable people" were infact Israelis either selling their own for money or being tricked by a certain doctor, who was uncovered and thrown in jail for decades. Still, you claim soldiers did this, which is impossible considering the process in retrieving and handling the organ that is so necessary in order to preserve it. But seeing that requires both brains and training - and I'm not sure you have either of these.
83. #58 they have,Focus on GAZA Instead
chris ,   wales   (09.10.10)
Israel has said it will look into this seriously,who are you to be judge,prosecutor and jury at the same time? most Allegations against Israel are mostly proven wrong and It would do you good to go visit GAZA And see the Brainawshing that goes on there.any Arab Child can say whatever the hamas or palestinians want them to say. Anyone Disagreeing with Hamas get shot as being traitors,people dragged from the back of trucks in the street while others hung to death,still ohers thrown off tall Buildings just for being accused of being collaborators. excuse me Mr Policeman but these Accusations are just that,Accusations! you are so Quick to jump to conclusion Hoping they are True. Like i said,why don't you go and see the brainwashing that goes on there in gaza and see how horrible it is that Children are taught to hate jews from an early age. they teach them Jews are Monkeys and pigs,and that the best Hope and desire in life is to be martyrs for allah through killing Jews,they can Enter Paradise. This is going on there and the World does nothing about it..this is an outragous abuse of Children.a whole generation of Palestinians being poisoned against jews just like the Germans where. So before you jump to Judge,let hear you condemn the HAMAS For Abusing their own little Children and for bringing them up on a diet of hate! let hear you condemn the HAMAS For mercilessly killing and torturing to death those who happen to disagree with them. let hear you condemn those Plaestinians who train Little arab Children to be Sucide Mombers..you can see them wearing these belt on their little bodies,being told this is their Highway to heaven..Yes,Go and judge the real Criminals who care less for Arab Bood as long they can use them as human weapons against the Israelis.. And you should also Condemn the hamas for deliberately targetting Israeli civilians when they fire their rockets into Civilian population.,.Go to Gaza and speak Out against all this,SEE HOW THEY WILL TREAT YOU THERE? So Be careful before you Open your Filthy Mouth and start throwing Stupid Evil Lies CONCERNING Israel Stealing Organs from dead palestinians.
84. #64 - except that Goldstone admitted report was cricumstanti
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
Goldstone admitted that the report, which everyone touts as absolute facts and proof of Israel's guilt, was nothing more than an investigation containing circumstantial evidence with the sole purpose of deciding whether or not a full investigation would be warranted. Goldstone fully admitted that his report containing NO claims that would hold up in a court of law. So, you're correct, but for a different reason. Usually it starts with unfounded rumors, followed by denials and calls for facts, and ends up with convoluted "facts" and misrepresentations under the guise of "official investigations" in order to provide the look of legitimacy in lieu of any real facts. The BBC Panaroma did a good piece about the terrorist flotilla, and despite the facts presented, some from the very cameras of the people on board, they were attacked as being racists and threatened. So, facts usually aren't those things that appear in anti-Israel reported. Get it?
85. #35 - I noticed that none of these "charities" protest
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
the use of children as soldiers by the "Palestinians" - PA and Hamas, or the use of children as human shields, or the brainwashing of children with racist and hateful programming by the same groups, or the forced closures of schools so children can go and meet the IDF in the streets (as opposed to adult terrorists). Seriously, not once did I hear any human rights group or any focused solely on saving children ever condemn these acts - the same that when committed in Africa is paid all types of lip-service by the UN and NGOs. Hell - Afghanistan has a huge problem with "lady boys" where young boys are taught to dance and entertain at an early age and are kept (as property) by wealthy men and used sexually. Not a peep from these groups.
86. #37 - but when the BBC exposed the truth of folitlla
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
your ilk called them racists, Zionists, anti-Islam, fascists, etc. Not exactly a badge of honor on your part. It's funny that there is so little you and your ilk can blame Israel for that you have to resort to fabricated stories and entire productions to forward the lie. Granted, you do it well and to the untrained eye, it seems real. But luckily, people are being more discerning, like those who found the same crying old Lebanese woman in front of 4 different houses claiming they were her home and destroyed by the IDF.
87. #44 - but its all testimony, no factual evidence
William ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
Abuse, both physical and sexual, do leave forensic signs. However, the "Palestinains" never seem to have any when making the accusations. I remember "Palesitnian" prisoner citing the same claims but when confronted to show where the marks were, they claimed it healed up quickly. Massive torture marks, all healed up in 2 days. Either they are the world's answer to curing every disease known to man, or they're lying.
88. #SPLIT 58 ARE YOU REALLY CONCERNED about ARAB CHILDREN?
chris ,   wales   (09.11.10)
Prove here that you are really concerned for Arab Children being Abused by condemning Hamas for using them as weapons!!! Also don't forget that the Palestinians have admitted using their Little as Human Shields. this is despicable and people such as yourself should be condemning this seing your so concerned for Little Arab Chidren? if your concerned so much,Let see your reply stating you are revolted by an Arab Muslim Government using chidren as Human Shields! What more revolting,The Palestinians admitting this by stating they are Proud to offer Children up as shahid..Come on Split,Show us that your are really concerned with Little children being Abused,and not just jumping on the usual Israeli Bashing Train..look here for the facts,IN THEIR OWN WORDS...Never forget it Split next time you want to portion blame on Israelis..If you don't condemn this outrightly,then You have shown you care Nothing about Arab Blood so long Israel can be demonized that all You care about! http://www.peacewithrealism.org/headline/admit.htm
89. child abuse
Steve   (09.12.10)
Its not the same when it was Micheal Jackson. Good ppl dont get away with shit. bad ppl (idf soldiers) do what they please and as long as there's "no evidence" they get away with everything. Also, notice silence is bliss. after cast lead and all the continual attacks from Israel on the Gaza strip, the IDF cannot be tried for war crimes because they refuse to tell their side of the story. when it comes to Gazan's the news channels say their war crimes for them, from info supplied by IDF. Final note: STOP DEFENDING ISRAEL! Everyone knows.
90. # 37&89 IDF the most Trained and most Disciplined Army in
Doc ,   UK   (09.12.10)
Having served in the British military my colleagues and I have always held a massive respect for the IDF. It's presence in the midst of so many hostile entities needs a multitude of strengths/abilities. I would direct critics to the comments/youtube videos of British Col. Richard Kemp who was a senior officer commanding in Afghanistan. Although not perfect by a long chalk, for a largely conscript army the IDF remains one of the best trained, best equipped and most experienced militaries in the world. Israel usually has to fight with 'one hand tied behind it's back' in case it causes too many enemy casualties, too much collateral damage - usually against enemies operating from among civilians - or in case it imposes upon international borders (eg in 1973, after nearly being overwhelmed by the surprise, combined attacks of the Arab world, the Israelis were within range of both Cairo and Damascus when the Russians stepped in with threats of world war 3 if the Israelis didn't stop). They have been forced to stop mid-flow by diplomatic pressure in virtually every conflict that they have engaged in. Arab/Islamic enemies have displayed an almost uniform level of barbarity when facing Israeli soldiers. Hezbollah, Hamas, PLO et al have shown a total disregard for the normal rules of warfare. The treatment of Israeli prisoners, body parts et al were a forewarning of what was to come in Afghanistan and Iraq. Even combat soldiers allegedly fighting on the same side have been known to turn their weapons upon their allies. Facing such unqualified barbarism towards their own kind the Israelis learned never to leave a wounded or dead colleague behind if possible. Against an adversary who doesn't respect normal levels of morality, despite their possession of any qualitative or quantitative advantage, surprise, deception, or whatever, there are no points for second best and they cannot afford to lose one major conflict. Ineed it was not for nothing that British soldiers were taught, when facing similar foes, to keep the last 'round' for themselves and avoid capture. Very few countries have had much experience with direct major conventional engagements until recent years and often heavily relied upon the experience of the Israelis, even in dealing with suicide bombings, IED's and attacks by irregulars such as in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Israel Air Force has outshone Western air forces in numerous mock air combat from the 1970's to the present day. It's performance in actual combat against Arab enemies is historically documented for all to see. Like many national forces in the public eye, attention is garnered by the world's media upon the slightest alleged wrongdoing of any serviceman/woman, whether corroborated or not. Their Arab/Islamic enemies have seized upon this for their vilification. Such has been the case with the US, UK, IDF and other forces. Far worse offenders are largely ignored as is the conduct becoming those in the Arab world until it affects the former entities. This report indeed is based upon uncorroborated allegations. In other arenas it wouldn't see the light of day because of this, but such is the nature of the 'beast' facing Israel, that totally disproportionate publicity is bound to ensue.
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