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Abbas: Israel can call itself Jewish-Zionist empire
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 21.09.10, 00:04
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61. 2Pamela
david ,   kiev   (09.21.10)
Why the big fascination with being recognized as a "Jewish" State? Just because it is special state, if it wont be Jewish - in that minute it will be destroyed. The whole idea of Israel is being for jews, to gather all jewish people, whos ancestors were suffering during 1000 year. Simple as that. Because its surrounded by enemies and its policy must be strong. There must be jewish majority in the country, so that inner enemies wont change constitution etc etc etc.
62. Yea, Abu Mazen is right, you can call "Israel" as you like,
Salma ,   Palestine   (09.21.10)
WE too can can call "Israel" as we like :) What`s the Problem?!! Netanyahu must say it in a clear manner to his Foreign Minister to shut up in his language!
63. #5 Pamela
NC ,   Canada   (09.21.10)
Simply put, you are an idiot. You don't understand what it is like to be Jewish.
64. Pamela, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking abou
Jason ,   Israel   (09.21.10)
Please be educated first, then you can start talking.
65. Jewish State
Sealift67 ,   Northern California   (09.21.10)
Pamela I beg to disagree. A few examples: It is illegal in Saudi Arabia for a muslim to convert to christianity. Churches in a number of muslim countries are relegated to back alleys. Jews are indeed second class in Iraq and Iran and the Quran edicts subjected Jews and other non- muslims to a tax. Try Pamela preaching Christianity openly on a street in Teheran, you will be arrested. The Vatican is small yet in fact is a Christian 'state." Why do you think Pakistan broke from India. Not every country shares the values of our constitution and this has led to a pathetic foreign policy in the U.S. as we seek with futility 'regime change."
66. ABBAS CAN'T CALL IT A JEWISH STATE
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (09.21.10)
He can't call it something it is not!! Lets be honest for once to ourselves, the whole concept and foundation of the modern day state of Israel is based on secular Socialist principles and his little to do with Judaism. The law system is not based on Jewish law (we do have the Talmud which is our body of law for the past 2000 years) and basically the under current of the state, the so-called media elite and universities are virulent anti religious Jewish. Besides the use of some Jewish symbols which are not linked to our history, Herzl is being promoted as our reason for coming back here. The education system is based on non Jewish principles, creating the new Israeli, devoid of any Torah and Jewish values, in order to establish the so much coveted global village status. Bibi with all his glib talk is acting against the same Jewish principles he wants Abbas to recognize, now this is what we call total hypocrisy.
67. #5 Pamela, USA Please read
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (09.21.10)
I noticed a lot of people re-acted toward your post and I hope you don't take offense to it no one is trying to offend you, however, they are clearly up set about a very sensitive issue that has many complex layers to it. To put it simply we are a Jewish nation and a nation is defined as "1. a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own; 2. the territory or country itself." (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nation). Palestinians are not a Nation they are a political movement, it's like saying I'm a communist. Communist don't have any particular nation and are not distinct in any way other than their political aspirations, although nations can become Communist Nations like the former Soviet Union (Russians). Palestinians are all Arabs and Arafat the father of Palestinian-ism was an Egyptian Arab born in Cairo 1929. Most Palestinians are themselves immigrants from the surrounding Arab nations. Palestinian-ism is the Arabs political movement to destroy Israel. I am not suggesting that this is the view of all Palestinian Arabs as I am certain there are many who genuinely want peace and their own state, so peace is hopeful. I realize this is not the most kosher explanation, but I tried.
68. Ok. but...
John ,   Israel   (09.21.10)
Great, we finally have a Palestinian leader with the balls to make peace - to bad he has no political mandate to sign on any dotted line. What a crazy conflict
69. To Nr.5 Pamela
Miro ,   Verona,Italy   (09.21.10)
Dear Pamela , It is obviously you do not understand the situation. Israeli arabs enjoy the best medical treatment(free)in the world,most of them do not pay any taxes,work only on cash and enjoy also National Insurance Pension for have contributed with nothing in their life in this country reconstruction.
70. Waste of Time; Inevitable Disappointment
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (09.21.10)
Forget this two-state nonsense. The Arabs do not understand that they, once again, have another opportunity to get something from Israel. But, they will blow it again given their fundamental inability to compromise and inability to respect non-Arabs and non-Muslims. They just can't do that. Israel has only one choice and to break off all talks with these guys and go ahead and incorporate all the territories we captured in 1967 as an integral part of the State of Israel. If the Arabs don't like that, let them leave.
71. So Salma, why don't we just call you Jordanians?
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (09.21.10)
Face it, Salma. Up until 1967, all of the Arabs in the west bank were Jordanians. The country was called Jordan and the capital city was and still is Amman. And before Jordan? There was no "Palestine". You call yourselves "Palestinians", but there really is no such thing as "Palestine", other than it being a province or territory of one imperial nation or another. Who was the first president of "Palestine"? Nobody. Because there has never been a country called Palestine. You are like the Boers. You didn't exist before you moved here, and you created a "Palestinian culture" that never existed before. Like the Boers, you want a racists apartheid state for yourselves only. Unlike the Boers who kept blacks around as slaves and servants, you want "Palestine" to have no Jews at all. It really is obvious when you look at the facts that you "Palestinians" are the real racists.
72. Why???
Harry ,   Jerusalem   (09.21.10)
Israel has been around, not for centuries, but for thousands of years. The Pals do not recognize this, as a fact, but they want Israel to recognize a myth, that started 45 years ago. Go figure!!!
73. UN/Israel controls refugee issue not PA, US blocks UN action
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (09.21.10)
The title "Jewish State" could have many meaning but refuses to define what it fully means until after a deal is signed. 25% of Israel is non-Jewish and in the under 25 age group its closer to 30% and could shift balance of power back to the left in a few years, even with the settlers supporting the right. One nation with 2 states best solution for all sides but puts Jewish control at risk.
74. Hey Matty Groves - still waiting for you
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (09.21.10)
I was at the Rami Levi supermarket last night, and Matty, I have to report to you that the PA boycott is a total failure. Not only are all the Arabs still working there, but the store was again packed with Arabs and Jews (egads! settlers and IDF soldiers too!) shopping side by side. Have you ever eaten in a sukkah (look up festival of tabernacles in your bible)? Come on out and I'll buy you a beer and pizza and you can talk to the Palestinians and hear from them directly about co-existence.
75. In that case all Russians will leave Israel for good
Ron ,   Israel   (09.21.10)
76. Jewish State?
david ,   jerusalem   (09.21.10)
Israel is a democratic nation, not a theocracy and not "Jewish". Why is Bibi demanding of Abba something which is not true?
77. I like it!!
Johnny ,   Nazareth   (09.21.10)
Zionist Empire... Not bad at all
78. THERE WILL BE NO OBAMA PEACE !!!.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (09.21.10)
Arn.Sweden.
79. To Israe; Never Justify Your Garrison State Structure
Dav Lev ,   Burbank.CA   (09.21.10)
Bibi is again making mistakes in the talks. Israelis should never justify, excuse, pardon, explain, redefine Israel or its existence. That was decided in the 4849War., which changed the partition plan forever. Had the Jews lost..well, ask Michael Oren. This is all nonsense. Even Ahmad believes nothing will come from the talks, as do I, even though hopeful. He was asked to call the Zionist state (hs name) Israel. He refuses..it is racist and illegal. Just say, "This land is Israel, a Jewish state". ( you dont like it, there are 23 other countries to go to). Even the USA offered 100,000 so called Pales refuge (turned down). To Israel remaina garrison state forever. Load your F15Is and F35 Eagles with nukes and target Tehran, Damascus, Beirut, if necessary. Sure its MAD, but the Arabs have 100,000 rockets aimed at yourentire land. Ahamd speaks today at the UN. He will again deny Israel's existence, accuse the Holocaust of being a farce, call for the Zionist States destruction, and dismiss the talks as leading to 1.5m more refugees. The reality, as he likes to say: Israel will survive, as long as its BarLev line is invulnerable, and people motivated to fight.
80. To Israel; Next Time Finish Off Hez/Hamas
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (09.21.10)
To Daniel,Miami: yes indeed, Israel/Jewish nations, must never justify its existence to please anyone. It exists for 3,000 years. The Pales are in existence for 43, yet are dictating the terms ( if freeze lifted will walk out). Ahamd (Iran) calls Israel the Zionist racist state, having created millions of refugees (what about Jewish refugees Ahmad?). The US saved Afghan from the Taliban and Iraq from Saddam, Ahmad says our incursions were criminal, with US troops on Iraqs borders (with Iran) not the reverse. To Israel: you should have taken out Hez/Hamas when you had the chance. Now, you will have to go in again. Next time, do the job right.
81. Palestine is also a Jewish State
Ben Plonie ,   Galus, Chutz L'Aretz   (09.21.10)
Declare Yesha a new independent Jewish state allied with Israel, with the English name Palestine.
82. PAmela
Jules ,   Tel Aviv   (09.21.10)
You are just another misinformed fool. Have you been to Israel? Have you even been inside of an Arab town here, have you talked to the countless Russians, Swiss, Italians, French, etc,foreign nationals who are not Jewish? How dare you speak on a matter upon which you have no knowledge! Everyone in this country has equal rights, much more so than the USA or any other country on earth for that matter! If you are a law abiding citizen here you enjoy every benefit and freedom of living within this country. Ask the Jerusalem Palestinians why they refuse to become citizens of the PA and don't give up their Israeli citizenships, it must obviously be because they ahve it so bad here!
83. To Netanyahu
Mike Van Harris ,   Antwerp Belgium   (09.21.10)
Jewish is a religion and not a country. Netanyahu please go to where you came from, Palestine was never for you and it will never be.
84. Abbas outburst
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (09.21.10)
Why is there Catholic Ireland (Eire) and Protestant (Norther Ireland ) the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (Islamic),or maybe Abbas is just plain and simple stupid ?
85. no.74
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (09.21.10)
A very nice gesture Brian but the Palestinian Matty doesn,t want to see or know the truth as it goes against his sheep like mentaliy as evidenced by his stupid postings ,only his Imam can instruct the sheep what do and when ,no one else ?
86. no.18
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (09.21.10)
But your pathological disorder cannot distinguish between fact or fantasy,May 1948 ,two states ,living side by side,in peace and prosperity ,so tell us who,s delusional ,unrealistic and a pathological liar ?
87. separate but equal?
Zebadie ,   USA   (09.21.10)
"There are more than a million non-Jews in Israel who enjoy equal rights, but this does not mean they have national rights" Sounds like Jim Crow
88. wake up world from arab historical revisionism! Arabs only
PainfullyObvious ,   ArabsOnlyRule   (09.21.10)
bot palestinians. ironic as before the RECREATION of the Sovereign Jewish country (mind you 1 jewish country versus 57 muslim countries), the Aras claled themsleves Arabs. who would have thought!? The palestinains were the Jews! Irony of ironies! Palestinianism is a farce to give the arab nationisit movement world support to do away with any jewish soveriegn land. Hence their unwillingness, to the core, to recognize Israel as the Jewish state on the Jewish historical homeland!
89. #1: Thanks for Showing the World Why..
iObserver and News ,   US-Israel   (09.21.10)
You Palestinians are a failed people with NO country. Your arrogance about a FALSE reality and bogus land "ownership" claims have always defined the entire Arab cause in Historic Israel: no honor, no shame, no dignity, no friends. Your tmporary support by the libtards will die out with your open failure (you've already failed actualy) in these absurd "peace" talks...which you WANT to fail. Israel KNOWS who you are: it's just taking the rest of the world a minute to get used to the idea of having embarassingly suported you at all. NO pali state in Historic Israel. Because you are a hateful people with no hope. You are amalak.
90. Which Arab states are not muslim??
Jonas ,   Oslo, Norway   (09.24.11)
Some folks seem to react to the fact that Israel call themselves a Jewish state. Please tell me which Arab nations do NOT refer to themselves as muslim states! Please tell me which Arab states (and all other states with a muslim majority for that matter) are not a member of OIC? (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation)
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