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'Obama guarantees Bibi: Only 2 more months of freeze'
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 30.09.10, 11:05
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1. Never trust him
Jackie ,   Florida   (09.30.10)
Obama is a master at saying one thing one day and the exact opposite the next. Never trust him. He claims to be a devoit Christian, but has spent more time on holidays since his inauguration and has only gone to church three times, once to prove he was no a Muslim.
2. Promises, Promises.......Meant to be Broken.....
Adina Kutnicki ,   Israel   (09.30.10)
Clearly Obama is grasping at straws, but at the same time he will use the 2 months to squeeze us to death to get his deal.To wit, the promises will evaporate into thin air, NEVER to materialize again. IF Bibi has any sense in his head he will not dare to stop Jewish building, for ANY reason.All he needs to remember is that EVERY President promised to move the embassy to Jerusalem.Last time I checked it is still in Tel Aviv, the only nation where Washington does NOT have its embassy in the capital! Again, Washington promises are made to be broken!!
3. Why should we pay for Obama's blunder?
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (09.30.10)
Let's go back to exactly what caused this issue in the first place. Obama & his amateur-hour team of bunglers, in their haste to suck up to the Muslim world & show their hostility to Israel, made this into a big issue. It was never an issue before. And, as usual, the Palestinians, seized upon the issue to weasel out of talks hoping to place the blame on Israel, no surprise there. Which is why they waited 9 months, just in time for the freeze to end. Security guarantees from the Obama administration are worthless. Obama has ZERO credibility & the U.S. can no longer be considered an honest broker. Obama is desperate for any success seeing as everything he has done is a big, fat FAILURE. So why should we pay for his failure?
4. By the way .....
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (09.30.10)
Take a guess as to who is pushing Netanyahu to accept this crappy deal? EHUD BARAK Mr Barak should register as the agent of a foreign government .
5. SUPER POWER BEGGING TO TINY ISRAEL ???
SINGER ,   SINGAPORE   (09.30.10)
SHAME ON OBAMA !
6. In the meantime .....
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (09.30.10)
What has Abbas been up to? Why a reconcilliation with Hamas. Yes, folks, our very own moderate terrorist went behind Clinton's back & sent a representative to Damascus to meet with the less moderate terrorists of Hamas. Among other charming subjects, they want to cooordinate their efforts at ''resistence'' - meaning killing Jews. This is our ''peace partner'' ......
7. Immediate freeze may be acceptable if:
Linda ,   Poltava, Ukraine   (09.30.10)
1) Israel is immediately recognized by Abbas&Co as Jewish, democratic, Zionist state. 2) Everyone currently considered a refugee by UNRWA immediately awarded a permanent residence permit (with the right to apply for citizenship after several years) in one of 22 Arab countries. 3) The anti-Israeli radio, TV, etc. propaganda stops. 4) School textbooks rewritten in 2 months and will no longer contain "right of return", "Jerusalem as capitol", etc. 5) All Hamas operatives in Judea and Samaria arrested and exchanged with Gaza for Gilad. Did I miss something ?
8. No freeze
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.30.10)
Why doesn't Obama pressure Abbas to issue a formal declaration recognizing the right of the State of Israel to exist in its ancient homeland? Why doesn't Obama insist that Fatah and all the other Palestinian organizations repudiate their charters which call for the destruction of the State of Israel and the extermination and/or expulsion of the Jewish people? There is nothing to "negotiate" about this rather simple request. It's a simple and straightforward quid pro quo. Unless and until, Israel should continue to build, and not limitedly either.
9. history needs to be taken in context
Golan ,   Modiin   (09.30.10)
Americans and European promises have fallen flat for decades. Israel's gift ten months ago was a one time deal. And many on the right and center would like another election to be on the PLO/Hamas and a referendum on the empty promises of the Americans and Europeans.
10. like asking Samson to get a haircut
Golan ,   Modiin   (09.30.10)
and what would we get in return? Peace? We got that for Oslo and Arab Autonomy, it was a bloody affair with Busses accidentally blowing up and later rockets accidentally shooting on our heads from Gaza.
11. the palistinians don't want peace not now nor in 2 month
Gerry ,   Holon-IS   (09.30.10)
What does 2 month bring - nothing the Palistinians don't want peace - if they would like they have had 10 month time but nothing came out! If they really wanted peace, so why they don't recognize the Jewish State of Israel in the first place? They are waiting for the end of the year - when Hamas&Hisbolla&co will attack Israel
12. What a farce! Abu Mazen for Obama a Leader or a puppet?!!!
Salma ,   Palestine   (09.30.10)
Americans prove day after day, they don't want to end the conflict in the Middle East ! Mr. Obama can guarantee what he wants for "Israel", the Palestinians are not not obliged to agree.
13. What will Israel get in return?
Andrew Brehm   (09.30.10)
Two months terror attack freeze? How would the PA enforce this? (Would they even agree to stop murdering Jews for two months?) Maybe Bibi should agree to another freeze and then not enforce it, in the spirit of Arafat's honesty? But really I think Bibi should ask what he will get in exchange for another freeze, reminding the PA that Israel got nothing for the last freeze.
14. Sorry.
Linda ,   Poltava, Ukraine   (09.30.10)
I forgot the PLO charter: it still calls for the destruction of Israel.
15. Spare the rod and spoil the child
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.30.10)
Time to stop babying spoiled brat Israel, and punish them in the UN for misbehaving when they build more settlement housing on stolen Arab land.
16. "Freeze" is a gesture made by Israel. What is the gesture
Daniela   (09.30.10)
made by the Palestinians? So far it amounted to more drive-by-shootings and more mortars and rockets falling on Jewish communities inside Israel.
17. To: No. 12
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.30.10)
And the biggest farce of all, dear, is the concept of a "Palestine." Face it: you're never going to have a state. The "Palestinians" cannot organize a conference call, let alone run a state.
18. Two month moratorium
Ger ,   Raanana, Israel`   (09.30.10)
The problem is that the Obama Administration has denied the existence of a letter from President George W. Bush with similar statements. What is to prevent them from doing the same thing again?
19. freeze
colin   (09.30.10)
Please extend freeze for 2 months,Do you Israel not see that I want to concentrate on the elections. Thereafter I will be able to demand concessestions. THESE ARE THE THOUGHTS OF THE ISLAMIC PRESIDENT OF THE USA. bIBI WILL FALL FROM THE KNESSET IF THE FREEZE IS REINSTATED. Beware jews everywhere Another backstabbing hitler is trying to wipe out the jews as any arab nation has tried for 5000years.
20. Do it
Joel ,   London, UK   (09.30.10)
Maybe I'm missing something, but what does Israel have to lose from doing this? It's only two months, and in the interests of trying to make peace, surely it's worth it. It sounds like a good deal to me, and even if it turns out not to be (as other commenters here seem to think), nothing will have been lost.
21. to No 1
Gerry ,   Holon-IS   (09.30.10)
Hi Jackie you are so right, why we should trust such a facked president?
22. Concessions only lead to demands for more concessions.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (09.30.10)
EVERY concession, every ''goodwill gesture'', every withdrawal, has been forgotten immediately afterwards. Then, it starts all over with new demands for concessions, always more concessions. And every time, the argument is the same, this particular concession is the key to ''peace'' - But it never is. And does anyone care if the Palestinians renege? Does anyone insist on reciprocal concessions? No. We will be ''concessioned'' out of existence.
23. And why two months?
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (09.30.10)
What will change? So in two months, the freeze will end again & Abbas will start singing the same song. It should be obvious that this is all about American domestic politics, specifically the upcoming Congressional elections when, by all accounts, there will be a Tsunami & Democrats will be washed away. Anyone see Obama's poll numbers lately? His approval rating is at a new LOW. Only 38% of Americans would vote for him again. So this whole thing is just a stunt, basically electioneering. Obama is even losing Jewish support, big time donors are NOT contributing to Democrats. It's really quite offensive that Obama takes us for such fools, even more offensive that he wants to use us as a prop for his disasterous foreign policy failures. Right, WE should make concessions so that Left-wing Democrats who are hostile to our interests get elected. This is really chutzpah. And don't expect any gratitude either, all we'll get is a kick in the ass from these liars & hypocrites.
24. The time is high, to SCRAP this deceptive
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.30.10)
terminology...the association of the word settlement with the perceived sense of illegality. There is NOTHING ILLEGAL for Israelis to build and settle in ***Israel***. So dear American "friends" think back a little in time...remember how the West was won... Israel has EVERY historic right to its own land and since 14.05.1948, Israel has fought against a lot of enemys to keep its land...it was NOT a gift of America...
25. STOP THIS GAME
Marco Antonio Reis ,   Rio de Janeiro   (09.30.10)
The US should not consider or request some measure to Israel. Just IMPOSE the freezing. Period. Zeu, Halas, ponto final. If Israelis dont accept it, just cut the aid, the cooperation and threat to strenghten the relations with Israel neighbours, like the 60 billions dollars to Saudi Arabia. What can Israel offer to the US other than troubles? China is growing, the Gulf countries are immensily richer. Americans, whose economy is worse and worse, should just not waste time with Israel anymore. Just impose a freeze and period.
26. BS
Rachmiel ,   MburgUSA   (09.30.10)
Why is it that when the Fakestianians act like children, the US gives them more? Do you believe this is the reason why they continue to act as children? Talk now and talk seriously (something they hand't counted on at all) or have all the land that the Fakestianians want be settled. Plain and simple.
27. Israel, to the Trains
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.30.10)
Two more months turns into permanent status. The Jews have learned nothing from recent REICH history. The latest Reich Globalists see Israel as a problem in uniting Islam into their New World Order and the Jews are once again in the way. HOW TO GET RID OF THEM ? Deceptivly,craftily con the naive Jews to cut their own throats and piece by piece remove them and Israel ? The peace farce is working well as the western flank of Hamastan,Gaza is primed to unleash hell as are Fatah to the east and Hizbollah to the North. Israel ,weak and seduced by a false friend's false peace,not trusting in God falls into the trap like an over ripe fig to the ground. The only good thing about this is that once the dust settlle's it will be the end of failed,secular rule in Israel
28. # 8 Sarah
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.30.10)
'Why doesn't Obama insist that Fatah and all the other Palestinian organizations repudiate their charters which call for the destruction of the State of Israel ' You still haven't figured out why ? Naive Jew's, The US, Fatah,Hamas, Islam are on the same page and this is why the pressure is only directed against Israel. This is why the focus is not on removing the real obstacle to peace Hamas. You Jews allow yourselves to be EASILY pushed around by a cunning and false ally. The price of ignoreing God's command to make no agreement with the moon god Palestinian tribe. The US has an ace up it's sleeve in dealing with Israel. Weak faithless unJewish leaders who always bend their knee to Washington's will. The catastrophic rule of secular Judiasm is headed for it's finale. Only an Israel wich serves God ALONE will survive.
29. Obama: abbas will begin killing europians if you don't freez
Ron ,   Te   (09.30.10)
now. I order to Freez. I Obama.
30. Obam guarantees
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (09.30.10)
So Obama wants two more months of setlement freeze,outside of the twelve months ,previously agreed and adhered to by Israel,midterm elections upcoming in less than six weeks (1 & half months) for the US Congress etc. and more than likely huge losses for the Obama led Democrats .What will Bibi receive for his wonderful gestures and accomodating of Palestinian Taqiyah and Hudna; a US veto against more Arab rhetoric and stage acting,no more extension on setlement freeze beyond the further 60 day moratorium and Washington pledges to to accept the legitimacy of existing Isreali security needs and not seek to redefine them.All very nice but contingent on the Democrats staying in govt. beyond 2012 when Israel could get a much better deal from the Republicans ,who will be in govt..But what about the Shiite influence of Hezbollah in Lebanon ,the Syrian and Iranian spheres of influence in the region Hamas on the West Bank,nothing about these problems in Israel,s view,call the bluff by extending the freeze for another sixty days as the US wants but wring more concessions from Obama after the midterm elections when he,s much weaker than before ?
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