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Erdogan insists on Israeli apology before 'page is turned'
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Published: 05.12.10, 20:45
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1. Erdogan it you who must give an apology
Galut ,   selah   (12.05.10)
your country ALLOWED radicals bent on a violent confrontation to be aboard the foltillia ship... pictures of who were using bats and clubs with intent to do bodly harm are worth ten thousand words
2. Compensate "Armenians "first ...(Some hopes)
Roland Seener ,   London England   (12.05.10)
3. Watch out Balkans, Romania and Bulgaria...
(12.05.10)
4. No need for an apology
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.05.10)
Erdogan is trying to make political hay out of what was arguably an incredibly foolish decision to allow the MAVI MARMARA to sail. The film shot of the incident is clear and incontrovertible, and Israel's blockade of Gaza is fully legal and internationally recognized. No apology is called for and, frankly, there is little to be gained from a pretense of improved ties to Turkey at a time when Turkey is moving ever closer to the Islamofascist camp -- Iran and Syria. Iran and Syria are widely recognized to be rogue state sponsors of terror. The IHH is a terrorist organization, and it is their operatives who were aboard the MAVI MARMARA. Leave Turkey to stew in her own juices. She'll be booted out of NATO quite soon, and there will then be absolutely no political capital for Israel to have a pretense of closer ties to Turkey. Besides -- and this is the most important reason -- when you have not done anything wrong, there is no need to apologize. Israel acted well within her rights in enforcing a legal blockade. Period. Full stop.
5. Despite aid, neither apology nor compensation are merited.
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (12.05.10)
As Turkey has said, the aid has nothing to do with the ongoing dispute. As part of its shift away from the West, Turkey has dumped on Israel at every opportunity. It took such an opportunity months ago to support a flotilla of militants and activists against Israel. Those who attacked IDF soldiers got what they deserved. Israel owes Turkey neither apology nor compensation.
6. Forget it Rajab no use
turkman ,   istanbul   (12.05.10)
It is like asking for debs from teez alnems never gonna happen instead we should concentrate on our arab friends they are growing economic power 350 million of them are bigger market and they have money those arrogant Israeli never learn
7. Apology from Turkey
Justin ,   Canada   (12.05.10)
For oppressing Armenians and Kurds. That includes bombing Kurds at will. And for sending terrorists looking for blood to Israel. Turkey does have a lot of enemies because it causes many problems.
8. #6 Turkman
Justin ,   Canada   (12.05.10)
With all the enemies you have you're going to need your Arab friends and all the friend you can get.
9. As always... a masterpiece #4
Anonymous   (12.05.10)
But this time I will sign myself in as
10. Don't apologize
Rachel ,   US   (12.05.10)
I hope Bibi is not that stupid.
11. To: No. 6
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.05.10)
Nice theory, except for the fact that the Arabs despise Iran and are not likely to want closer ties to Turkey at a time when Turkey and Iran are growing ever closer. Trust me: the Arab states are not your friends. Not even Syria, from whom Turkey has shamelessly been stealing fresh water for decades.
12. Islamic duty??? what about humanitarian duty... ?
William ,   Gotham City, Lebanon   (12.05.10)
... What about acting as a civilized citizen of the world? He can shove his Islamic duty where the sun never shines... Should Israel ever apologize? Is the Pope Jewish? here is your answer Erdoganijad...
13. We should really make them suffer
Gokhan ,   Istanbul   (12.05.10)
so that they understand that we are not making jokes anymore. If they don't apologize publicly and do not pay compensation for slaughtering turks on turkish boats on international waters then we should punish Israel. Their declaration of war is not going to remain unanswered. Soon you Israelis will understand, that you didnt do yourself a favour by making turkey your enemy.
14. Erdogang misjudged impact of failed project now we must save
Martin ,   SA   (12.05.10)
face for him. Cowboys dont cry you get back what you give. Nobody wants to cause loss of lives. Erdogang you played with fire. Now want to wish you actions away. what of the injured men who will never show their faces due to the injuries disfigurements that embarrass and you were party to. That is a living death, what is worse? We didnt even ask you Erdogang to apologise. It is regretable that lives were lost. but lives were lost due to being pursued. You were the persuer. We cant ignore that and its military and legal consequences. This was not a tea party that took place. You also wanted media coverage and by deception got it. You still want an apology. We want your admission. We cant ignore your good neighbourlinees dont forget we have help you willingly too on numerous occcessions. Lets move on.Stop face saving nonsense. All other flotillas backed off except yours ask yourself why? You were not realistic. I repeat you can face up to your miscqalculationsand your violent and dispicable actions. end. actions.
15. I hope, too, Rachel,
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (12.05.10)
because there is absolutely nothing for which Israel should apologize.
16. Aid "from humanitarian motives"? No
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.05.10)
Germany told them to help.
17. Two helicopters?
Atheist Turk ,   Germany   (12.05.10)
Two large airplanes it were. Netanyahu even inspected them and thanked the Turkish pilots. Why do you write helicopters?
18. A compromise
Andrew Brehm   (12.05.10)
I suggest a compromise. Erdogan publicly states that sending a largely empty ship with some expired medication and a few Islamists was the aid he wanted to send to Gaza and Israel apologises for stopping it.
19. No way in hell.
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (12.05.10)
An apology here would carry an enormous gravity, would be an absolute national disgrace, and immensely erode our image. The day it would happen, I can see all the Turkish newspapers celebrating with titles like "the Zionists folded", "Israel admits their crimes", and so forth. The repercussions would be catastrophic for us. I sure hope Bibi is not that stupid.
20. Only strong Turkey will help to free Palestine
israelis know well   (12.05.10)
21. erdogan again
alexi   (12.05.10)
turkish aid in the fire reflected more israeli assistance to Turkey. Nonetheless, Erdogan, who rafael sadi is convinced of his own lies, demands an apology from israel and compensation in effect linking the aid. This is offensive as erdogan himself. In future, israel should probably not take any aid of any kind from turkey. Now Bibi knows he makes concessions and he should stop himself from offering offering any to erdogan. Just as he should not extend any more freezes before talks with the pals, he should stop himself from doing the wrong thing. He did a good job on the fire. He now has to plan armel rehab and set up a fire control air wing and fast. Do not play the turkish honor and lie game.
22. enough erdogan at least at this time
erdem ,   Turkey   (12.05.10)
ı am fed up with these endoğans insists. at least dont say anything in this time erdogan. we havent got any problem in the past with israel and ı dont want any problem now. I dont forget israel's help during the Marmara earthquake like everyone.we are friend we have to help each other in bad condition. I hope this trouble will be solved between Israel and Turkey immidiately.
23. Is he trying to play on Bibi's conscious?
Jen   (12.05.10)
Because I remember Israel sending aid to Turkey when they needed it, why play politics now?
24. Germany had to beg turkey to help
david ,   uk   (12.05.10)
anyway, i think both sides needs to kiss and make up because otherwise those flotilla islamic extremists achieved their goal of destroying ties between the two countries.
25. What about an apology to the Kurds you butchered, Erdogan?
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (12.05.10)
Don't think we have forgotten the grisly images of corpses of Kurds, burned alive by your chemical weapons. You are nothing but a hypocrite, a demagogue and a rogue terrorist posing as a head of state.
26. the insane sultan
lou ,   boston,usa   (12.05.10)
mr erdogan, shut up. you turks of all people should not be making any demands on civilized people. by the way, your rolls royce ambitions and rover resources have been laid bare for all to see. so one more time shut up.
27. As Sarah so rightfully pointed out
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (12.06.10)
" The film shot of the incident is clear and incontrovertible", hence the legitimacy of Turkey's magnanimous offer to carry on full diplomatic relations once Israel has officially apologized and duly compensated the families of the the victims. There seems to have been a typo as we further read her post, having typed legal occupation as opposed to illegal. I am glad to see I am not alone in making errors on the keyboard. It would have been nice to see a little more gratitude for the charity received, but maybe that got censored out.
28. How do yo give and then ask for it back?
Iranian Jew ,   LA   (12.06.10)
This is actually an American Indian tradition. I do not mean insult the American Indians here. I guess someone should tell Edrogan about it. Why didn't Isreal ask for something when it helped with the earthquake? Please answer this angry #6?
29. Thank you Turkish people. Erdogan, go to hell!
(12.06.10)
Erdogan has to apologize for: 1. The Act of War of sending terrorist ships to break a legal blockade. Read the International Maritime Law to see that. 2. For actively encouraging and supporting public and diplomatic racist attacks and incitement against Israel. 3. For working with the enemies of Israel - Iran, Hezbollah and Syria - for the destruction of Israel. Erdogan, we DO NOT APOLOGIZE TO ENEMIES! We love the Turkish people (those who are not rebid racists of course), but for as long as Erdogan and his minions are leading Turkey, there is no way we will cooperate with Turkey in anythng but helping it out during natural desasters - just like we always did!
30. MOSLEM BROTHERHOOD
MOHSON   (12.06.10)
JUSTICE PARTY IS A FORM OF MOSLEM BROTHERHOOD WHICH IS ANOTHER VERSION OF AL QUAEDA. IT IS A CULT, DICTATORIAL AND ANTIWOMAN AND EXCLUSIVELY ISLAMIC. ERDOGAN SPENT SOME TIME IN JAIL IN THE 90s FOR ANTISECULAR ACTIVITIES SO HE HAS LEARNED HOW TO OUT MANOEUVER THE ARMY. But as time goes on, the facade slips off and the true platform reveals itself. One of the common features of moslem brotherhood ideas is that truth is turned into lies and so believed. And the other aspect is honor. If you insulted the honor of erdogan, you have to apologize. Anything can be interpreted as an insult. So, in the case of the marmora boat, israel commandos were attacked with hatchets is turned into commandos shot innocent turkish activists insulting the turkish nation. What is one to do? Continue business relations, don't sell any sensitive military equipment, do not ask for any favors form Turkey or the PLO and tell erdogan bluntly face to face that he can jump into the mediteranean. Past israeli behaviour under Olmert was submisisve and appeasment as olmert was frightened and intimidated by Erdogan. Israel has to be confident and stand in its place without flinching like lieberman. Apologies will only encourage more demands much as moslem- loving obama repeatedly demands of bibi no matter what agreements are reached. Finally, Israel has to make new plans. Forget about the peres-barak-olmert 2 state model with unilateralism. It will never work. Begin and Morris explain why this is so in recent conversations and articles. Retake the west bank after abbas abandons leadership, recruit locals to run it and encourage arabs to leave to jordan. Maintain status quo. Once that leadership is strong enough, blast hamas out of gaza move the arabs to the west bank rename gaza into israel. Clean it and take it over as Israel which it once was. Contrary to haaretz- minded demographers, the arab birth rate is not twice that of the jewish birth rate.So stop stressing the israeli leadership. Next time, a fire may ravage the west bank.
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