Jewish Scene
Rabbi: Lower marriage age to 15
Moria Ben-Yosef
Published: 18.01.11, 11:57
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
148 Talkbacks for this article
61. According to the Article some Haredim are already marrying
Israelit ,   Israel   (01.18.11)
their daughters off at age 15 & 16, when the legal age for marriage is 17. Who is to say that these same worthies won't push the limits some more and start marrying off their 13 and 14 year old unwanted girls? Where is this going to lead? Where is this going to stop? Total insanity.
62. Whoa!
manicdrummer ,   Madison, USA   (01.18.11)
Marriage at 15?! Rabbi, kids that age are, well, kids! Here in the US, some states set 15 as the legal driving age, 18 is the age to legally vote, but to get married? Dude, let the kids enjoy their childhood!
63. #26
just me ,   israel   (01.18.11)
Your fringe ideologies are mixed up, reworked and adapted to suit your feeble mind. A 15 year old's body is not suited to motherhood in today's age, and it is abuse to advocate for such things. Here, in Israel, we raise our children to think- to develop complex ideas and to learn beyond what is obvious. We are true leaders. You raise your kids to be timid, ignorant and roshei katan. Con-man, you are a fake, a phony and you can move all over the world- but you take yourself with you. Great families respect individual differences and encourage individual growth, they are intact and whole because of mutual respect- not submission to dictatorial parenting in extreme and confusing communities. The Amish have a time where kids can go and do whatever they want, come back and then do the Amish thing again... You ready for your girls to do that? We are Jews. We love our kids- every day and allow them to mature. And if it takes until 40- so the heck what?! I would rather a 40 year old be ready... than a 15 year old be abused.
64. True Leaders
JB ,   Rehovot Israel   (01.18.11)
Israelis are "True Leaders. Ha ha ha ha. You made my day. Thanks. Israelis are sheep, worshiping the U.S. for its money, its basketball, and its celebrities. True Leaders. I'd better write that down.
65. Brave anonymous #63
(01.18.11)
You probably don't believe in evolution but evolution decides when a girl can have a child. And because you may be so behind mentally doesn't mean everyone is. I am teaching my daughters to see the difference between subjective opinions like yours and facts. So you are a Jew, so what. So am I. I'll do my best to be back. Hopefully YNET will begin to honor their no slander policy and we won't have to hear from anonymous slanders such as you. Come up with some facts instead of insults.
66. 59 Charles
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (01.18.11)
Listen very well,Charles.My grand-daughters are Jewish princesses.
67. Unless these 15 year olds already have a job....
American Sabrah ,   Givas Shmilkeh   (01.18.11)
I don't see how marrying off your 15 year old daughter will help curtail your financial burdens you have with the rest of your 10+ students.While pre marital sex is understandably frowned upon in most religious communities, I don't think its wise to force 15 year olds to undertake responsibilities that are beyond their maturity. Most teenagers have no concept of commitment nor to they have any means of financial support.Besides most people mature much later these days than they used to during our parents generation. I think its unrealistic and illogical for these Rabbis to encourage child marriages given those facts. I feel it would be more pragmatic to teach our children to be independent and equip them with survival skills necessary for the world outside of the nest at a younger age instead.We could start by not spoiling and overly doting them.Only then could we encourage them to settle down.These rabbis need to live with the time and accept the reality for what it is.Passing this bill would be an exercise of futility.Most 15 year olds have no interest in getting married so why force it upon them?
68. Legal age in the UK is 16
David   (01.19.11)
Many will be surprised to learn that in the UK, a western secular and supposedly advanced country, children of 16 can get married with the consent of their parents, but cannot drive until they are 17 or vote until they are 18. I would make it unlawful to get married until 21. Few people's personalities fully mature until their early 20s.
69. Upsetting and Regretable Article
rivkah f. ,   jerusalem   (01.19.11)
By all means freedom of the press. The writer Anatole France wrote that it is permitted to sleep under the bridges by the Seine as well. His statements about women are revolting and wrong. And marriage at fifteen or even at twenty in most cases is a mistake. Most are too immature for it. Get real.
70. I want a lolita, maybe not a 15 year old lolita though
Shlomo ,   New York, US   (01.19.11)
Let's be honest. I don't know how it is in Israel, but most girls in the US are doing things married people around 15. I know 15 is young, but at least doing intimate things while married is wholesome as opposed to being a 15 year old girl and having a different boy in your mouth every week. But this Rabbi seems as others have mentioned to want to get welfare money from more kids. I think the Hardeim must have missed the part in the Pirkei Avot that says not to study Torah all the time, to get a job also lest you be led to sin.
71. a case for the homemakers...
Kabala.Chabad stdt. ,   Niles.IL.USA   (01.19.11)
...a true testimony of a relative, who is true to her calling, purpose, and delight of wife, mother, homemaker and not interested in pursuing a high education / her children's friends looked upon her as the mother they did not have as their mom's were absent from the home, to this day she receives flowers for Mother's Day from one of these kids / it's the secular western philosophy that women fall prey to choose materialisms over the care, training, presence and love of raising a family...women today are not in line with their nature and instincts; my personal thoughts are after the children are raised then pursue your career {or education} if you really want that road...anyway, kin of relative are pursuading her to take a time out from the mundane home detail to watch Sunday NFL playoffs Chicago Bears vs. Green Bay Packers...Go Bears :=D
72. Ora , 66
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.19.11)
Of course that your granddaughters are Jewish Princesses . Tell me , did you had to earn your living ? No , it was your Husband , zl . You maybe helped your Husband with administrative work , other women did it too , there . You had'nt a quantity of children , i think . You were a TRUE Jewish Princess . But , and to give parnassa , and have quantities of children , that something very different . Receiving flowers for Shabbat don't means that you are a Princess , certainlky not when you paid for them with your hard work . That's not personally meant at you , or at your family .
73. I'm For It
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (01.19.11)
I do not mind that the legal marriageable age for girls is lowered to 15, as long as they don't pass a law forbidding 60-year olds to marry them. Wahoo!
74. #73
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (01.19.11)
You are sick to even think like this,not funny at all just perverted.
75. 72Charles
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (01.19.11)
No i was thanks G-D very spoilt.But i can t compare myself to my daughter in law.She is, beli ayin hara, an outstanding, clever, kind,classy, devoted to her family, business woman.She is the queen of her house,loved and respected from husband and children.Everybody without exception helps her at home.She has not to ask something twice.Never a loud word.Her cooking has 1000 tam.(delicatessen}Where do you find these kind of women?And you must see from which house she comes.Every Shabat ,one of the children s family comes with pots pans and food ,and stay with their elderly parents .They sing joyously zemirot, while at table (covered with a white napkin).Alevay,all Jewish families,such a warm family life. I feel VERY lucky that my son married a Haredi girl.Haredi girls are the best girls in the world. But they only want to marry religious men.Charles,try for once, to accept that there is something good also, in a Haredi life.You can find a lot of things you do not OK.For some things i will may be agree with you,because i personnaly am in favor of the golden middle way for ALL the Jews.If we keep all the same laws,we will feel like ONE united family(and not to societies that hate one another).May G-D help my dream come true. Your opinion,Charles, is important to me .Please don t reject everything i said.Find at least one thing you okay.
76. For Humorless Phil from Afula -
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (01.19.11)
A joke from George Carlin- "Ah, Springtime. When young women go out looking for husbands, and husbands go looking for young women." Lighten up, Phil.
77. 76 Reuven
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (01.19.11)
This is not Jewish sens of humor. I think,not Phil,but you should lighten up.
78. One Good Point: Age Of Consent
TSB ,   Clifton USA   (01.19.11)
While overall I think this is a bad idea, the Rabbi makes one good point. How is it that the age of consent to sex is 16 while the age of consent to marriage is 17? If someone is mature enough for one, he or she is mature enough for the other. As it stands, the law essentially is encouraging extra-marital sex. Which is both bad and discrminates against religious people who will only engage in sexual relations in marriage.
79. #10 Schizo
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.19.11)
You're confusing the Haredi with the Arabs, who have a much higher birthrate At least when a Jewish girl marries, she won't have to share her husband with 3 other wives, as allowed by Muslim law Her husband can't dump & divorce her just by saying he divorces her and then return her to her family as used merchandise BTW-What have you ever done for God & Country ? Branch of Service, MOS, where & what exactly ?
80. Look at the bright side
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.19.11)
Married at 15 is a heck of a lot better than being single, getting knocked up, out on your own, without any support from your family All you have to do is read about all the illegitimate births, which in some countries, are 50% or worse of the birthrate It's a long standing fact that in warm climates girls mature earlier
81. #63 Whoa - Kids in the USA
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.19.11)
Giddiyap !! Kids in the USA, don't bother to get married at 15, they just go ahead and get knocked up without the benefit of clergy That's one of the reasons that there is so much VD, experimentation without fidelity to one mate They're doing it because they enjoy doing so, it's not like having a tooth pulled Look at the American ILLEGITMATE birth rate, it's stratospheric
82. Too much!!!!!
Nachum C. ,   Jerusalem Israel   (01.19.11)
While many Jewish woman are getting married very late or not at all, fifteen years old is a little too young.
83. Early marriage
NB ,   Israel   (01.19.11)
Just a few generations ago, Jews did get married at 15, even some of the boys. Today, however, it is too early. Eighteen or twenty is better for girls, and at least twenty-two for boys.
84. Really pathetic 52% Unmarried
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.19.11)
Unmarried Childbearing (Data are for the U.S.) •Number of live births to unmarried women: 1,715,047 •Birth rate for unmarried women: 52.3 births per 1,000 unmarried women aged 15-44 years •Percent of all births to unmarried women: 39.7% Source: Births: Final Data for 2007, table C More data •Birth data •Changing patterns of nonmarital childbearing in the United States •Number and percent of births to unmarried mothers by race and Hispanic origin, by State and Territory Births: Final Data for 2007, table 20 •Trends in nonmarital birth rate by age, race, and Hispanic origin Births: Final Data for 2007, table 19 •Trends in nonmarital childbearing by race and Hispanic origin Health, United States, 2009, table 9 •VitalStats - Online data tool Schizo - Mom ever find out who your dad was ?
85. #10 Schizo
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.19.11)
FYI, since you harped on Teva, enjoy the facts ALL drug manufacturer's have legal problems, it's inherest in the industry You can find a single one of them that has been sued and paid off to settle "Headquartered in Israel, Teva (TEVA) is the world's largest generic drug maker, which markets over 1200 molecules in over 60 countries throughout the world. In addition to their generic portfolio, Teva also possesses a strong branded portfolio led by Copaxone, the world's leading injectable therapy for multiple sclerosis. Teva generates high levels of cash flow, has a very strong debt to equity ratio of 18% and therefore, has the scale and financial muscle to be more flexible and aggressive with their business model than most of their peers" See if they have one that will cure your sick state of mind
86. 79 , big mouth ben jabo . What have you done
(01.19.11)
for your country ?
87. Lower marriage age
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (01.19.11)
Ben Gurion's dream,is materializing,Israel is becoming more and more part of the middle East,what's next polygamy ?.
88. Ora 75 , Thank's god , spoilt ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.19.11)
Gater in French , when your Husband give you very much , when you have a fantastic life . That's the common [ maybe not correct use ] But gater also means : abimer and spoilt means this in my small pocket dictionary . I had to lok for the meaning of "spoilt" , and was wondered .
89. #87
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.19.11)
Polygamy depends on how you look at it For a man, it's variety, the spice of life, the main shortcoming is that he has to support all of them. .Everything has it's price For a woman, other women share the chores and marital obligations Or just for kicks, you might want to look at the astonishing number of children born out of wedlock, where the mother and child are relying on welfare for all their needs As of now, it's 52.3 % in the good old US of A
90. Legalized Pedophilia
Yehudit ,   US   (01.19.11)
Personally, I think this is legalized Pedophilia. If you reduce the age of marriage to 15, large Hareidi families will be marrying off their daughters not to other young men but to much older men, who will basically be using them for child sex. I agree with the others that marrying kids off to other kids will only put a burden on the Israeli tax payer. Also, it seems as if the Hareidi society and Rabbis want to bring us back to the dark ages of keeping women out of school and also keeping them dumb, barefoot, and pregnant with no hope of ever getting a job or being able to be able to become well educated and able to think critically for themselves. Bunch of hogwash. These Rabbis need to come off of the public dole and work for themselves.
Previous talkbacks
Next talkbacks
Back to article