in real life people die and sometimes babies die in horrific ways. But you know what your post is somehow disconnected from reality particularly since Orthodox Jews don't believe in Satan. Satan doesn't murder anyone not even babies. Human beings murder other human beings.

So speak for yourself and not for me!

Prejudice or downright antisemitism? The israeli Left is comprised of selfhating jews who are indifferent to jewish problems. As far as the european attitudes about the jewish people and the jewish country concern, don't expect anything different; they are back to the dark ages.

Japan has just been hit by one of the worst earthquakes ever, with thousands of victims dead and hundreds of thousands homeless and it is still fighting a huge nuclear disaster. Libya is fighting a civil war. Yet Israel's press is only filled with complaints about how the world doesn't pay enough attention to Israel's topics. How ridiculously self centred can you be? Why should the world care? Many around the world are simply fed up with Israel and its constant demands.

Why do we care ? Because every single way of critizing israel ALWAYS fill the press all over the world. Remember Al-dura ? know-one can be absolutely sure what happened, but still ten years after the picture are on the tv. Remember the flotillas ? for weeks the medias where just speaking about this, nothing else. A genocide could be going on in sudan or congo, what would make into the headlines are every single house built in part of Jerusalem or others. We are complaining of the fact that when we can show what we are fighting against and for, the world is silent, but when we are fighting, every articles are on us.

've noticed that if I ever try to post anything that's even a bit center-right on Haaretz, my message gets completely erased/censored. Is there any suggestions for how to report this awful reporting to forces in Israel that can take care of this? There is absolutely no free speech on Haaretz any more. Which means that it is unfair reporting. Is it true they are financed by Al Jazeera? Help! I feel so helpless as an Israeli living abroad that just wants his center-right voice to be heard! I want to cry that my own country has devolved to such a lowly state. It hurts. Can anyone please offer constructive solutions?

It's just that I have no business calling myself a "Zionist" until I make aliyah by moving here permanently, and become a citizen like my wife and son. Fair enough?

You should read post 47 not that it would make any difference to a nasty Jew hater like you. Israel has offered assistance to help victims of the earthquake in Japan,and the Japanese ambassador called it heartwarming,if I am not mistaken it was published right here in this newspaper.

Why JEWISH settlers want to live in JEWDEA you ask? The fundamental TRUTH that is never said out loud anymore is that there is NO occupation. That's right. Jews can not be occupiers in their own Homeland of 3300 years, JEWDEA - which was renamed into Palestina by Romans in 135AD. In 638AD, the invaders from far away ARABIA conquered the misrenamed Land of the Jews - JEWDEA. ARAB is an Imperial identity of the Vast Lost Arabian Jihadi Empire - just like Russian is an Imperial identity in the Vast Lost Russian Empire yet no one claims Uzbekistan as Russian native land and Uzbeks being foreign invaders in their own homeland. Think about it. Greece was under Muslim rule for centuries too. Shall it be "returned" it to its "native" Turks? Is it "illegal" for the Irish to build homes in English-occupied parts of Ireland? The only reason for such an absurdity claiming such a firm ground to itself in European/Western mass consciousness is the Western fawning before the Arabs/Muslims for their OIL. It is cheap and easy to call Jews invaders in their own Homeland, to carry favor with the OIL Powers.

Israel's demands seem to be: respect the fact that the PLO/PA acknowledged the legality of Jewish residence in the "West Bank" via Oslo; ask that you in the EU and Turkey stop funding the terrorist factions in a perpetual state of war against Israel; and check your facts when the next al-Dura or al-Farmawi hoax is spoon-fed to your media by Pali stringer. Israel probably just needs to gauge your media's reaction as a litmus test for which countries are psychotically obsessed with, apathetic to, or supportive of Israelis - compassion is a two-way street.

Sir, I am tired of reading comments of the type that you and others of your opinion continuously and persistantly make! Why do you insist on making of the Israeli left one monolithic group? If I were to make comments of the same type about the Israeli right and/or the Israeli Jewish religious communities you would be personally insulted and attack me for the ignorance of my comments. I don't believe in making personal attacks so I won't do that to you. What I will do is ask you to please read my comments at TB 49 attached to this article. And I will ask you to please have a careful think before making such hurtful comments. Do try to remember that there are leftists who are moderate and sober leftists who have suffered the loss of a loved one to terrorism and live with that loss every single day. It isn't easy, I know, I am one. A bereaved leftist.

Israel and Israelis are almost always the first to respond when disaster strikes our fellow human beings. We respond because it is the right thing to do not because we expect to get anything (like friendship or agreement with our positions or the positions of our various governments) #65 Let me say that again WE RESPOND BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! Sadly, very sadly I can not say the same thing about your country Germany. So please do yourself a favor, keep your hate filled comments to yourself. Thank you

Europe = the land of socially acceptable bigots.

Did they demand all Whites to be deported from there? PLO demands that of the Jews of Israel (which they call "occupied Phalastyn", or else why there are no Israel on the maps in their school books from which they teach their children - that Israelis are foreign invaders in their own Homeland of 3300 years). Did Mandela demand all Whites be slaughtered? - that's what Hamas demand, and chant in their places of "worship", and teach their children, and sing in their songs. Imagine South Africa where ANC demands "their" land be "freed" from each and every last one White and call that "the Just Peace" - the only "peace" that they will accept. Because this is what the Arabian invaders are doing in Israel/JEWDEA, which they call by the fake name Phalastyn. Palestine is an old name for geographic region between the Jordan river and the Mediterranian Sea, the historical Jewish Land called JEWDEA for centuries PRIOR to the Arabian invasion of 638AD. The proper new name is Israel.

The world does not view Israel as a victim, and their PR attempts at presenting themselves as such are not going to work. If you think about it, this isn't really international news. When black people in the US murder each other, it doesn't make the front page of the London papers. Also, dont you think reporting about the authorization of increased building in settlements SHOULD be reported with this news. It's a relevant part of the story, and illustrates just how un-magnanimous Israel actually is. The bottom line is that the world doesn't view Israel as a victim, and attempts by Israel to have themselves portrayed as such will not resonate with international audiences. If Israel wants to curry favor with the international press, they should focus on being benevolent in their administration and interaction with the Palestinian Authority. Instead, they destabalize their economy and lower the quality of life.

take your favors and shove'em. We dont need no phony favors. This is what we are faced with, this is what we defend ourselves against - the naked barbarity of people putting nives into 3 month old sleeping baby, up close and personal. We are not victims, but we do demand the right of self-defense for ourselves, and you the West deny us that right by your skewd reporting and omission of PERTINENT VALUABLE facts. So stop yer lyin', do yer lyin', just LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE! There is a reason for NOT ONE BOMB being dropped on the Nazi railways bringing 10,000 Jews to the deathcamps daily in WWII. That reason is OIL, the Arab barbarism, and the Western depravity. Arabs demanded for the extermination of the Jews not to be hampered as the condition for the free flow of oil, and USA/CIA and the Brits were only happy to oblige their TRUE ALLIES the Saudis.

Eurpean history is stained by social injustice relegious wars, inquisition, greed, blood libel, pogrom and ultimately the Holocaust. Over two milleniums the euopeans got used to a defenseless jew who was considered subhuman. The time is approaching when the european countries will face a similar danger; with the growing muslim presence and their lack of respect for human life you will have to make a decision; loosing your national identity, your culture and traditions or fight against 60 million fanatics.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12721170

you retard. go back to readaing your der speigel and go watch your porn sites,,, go troll some place else, we do not need to hear fom you and you were not invited on here to espouse your drival you unhinged dummy. my guess is that you must be jealous because you can not be Jewish. GET A LIFE

... our European "identity, culture and traditions" is defined by "injustice, wars, greed, pogrom and Holocaust". So we should be happy that the "muslim presence" here will destroy that finally, no? May be you should deport all the Arabs from the Westbank here to make this process even faster. Israel's and our problem solved with just one move!

...be it the murderers or the journalists, these people will be judged by this in the World to Come, obviously it is irrelevant in this secular world...a few of my cohorts that keep abreast with international news were well informed of and dismayed by this horrific act...may Moshiach come quickly!

@ Harm excellent post. Nothing to ad, except the fact that i dont share your opinion of israel losing the pr battle.

So a German thinks that Jewish lives don't count but non-Jewish lives do. I see. Well what else is new in Germany? It's too bad though that your country still exists. People of your ilk - ice cold people that show no empathy and no sympathy for your fellow human beings, and people of your ilk that express hostile or apathetic views against Israel and the value of Jewish lives, will get the kind of sympathy that he gives to others. If you think that it's ok to kill Jews or to accept, neglect, trivialize, legitimatize , ignore or ridicule the death of Jews then you shouldn't be surprised that you will get the same treatment back. And when Germans mourn their dead I will also say "the world is sick and tired of the bizarrely self centred Germans that always demand things of the world such as accepting and treating Germans as human beings." It's really too bad, very bad, a huge mistake on behalf of the allies, that nukes weren't dropped on Germany - because then German anti-Semitism would die with the Germans. Many people carry with them ideas that there is a "new" Germany. But there is no "new" or "old" Germany - there is just Germany. Once a German always a German. Let me put it like this: Many Jews sincerely wish that we can do to you what you have done to us between 1939-1945 - the exact same treatment.

In the U.S., Europe and elsewhere, generally the left is anti-Israel. Conservatives are pro-Israel. Israel's best friends in America are concentrated among Republicans. Democrats are generally hostile. A large group of prominent European rightists recently announced strong support for Israel. Happily, the right is on the ascendancy. When Obama is tossed out in 2012, Americans and Israelis will be able to work together again. As European leftists are defeated, Israel will enjoy better relations with conservative lead European nations.

Back in 1991 when President Bush (the dad) a Republican was president of the United States and Yitzak Shamir (a likudnik) was Prime Minister. Israel came under direct attack by Iraq during the Gulf War of 1991. President Bush as Chief of Staff of the United States Armed Forces refused to give Prime Minister Shamir the friend or foe codes for the airforce and effectively grounded the Israeli Airforce for the entire war. The Israeli Airforce could NOT defend Israel because we could not safely put our planes in the air. Is that the type of thing you are talking about when you write: "Americans and Israelis will be able to work together again."? If so, really I just can't wait for those really good relations working days to come back! Chaim please do remove the scales from you right wing eyes and take a good look at ALL of the history and relationship before commenting next time!

I no longer read Haaretz because most of the time Haaretz would not post my comments. Additionally, I believe that the way that Haaretz will word an article is almost completely opposite to its meaning and usually castigates Israel. Lately, I have noticed that many Jewish organizations/news outlets/etc... have stopped quoting Haaretz; most use to quote Haaretz all the time as the source of Israel's mindset or the news that is happening. But not now. Jpost will censor depending on where on its website you post. The censorships have nothing to do with language - it is solely based on political beliefs and the fact that many writers cannot stand it when a talkbacker can prove him/her wrong. Keep protesting here and elsewhere against censorship.

Have a little think perhaps it is how your comments are worded which keeps them off of HaAretz as they tend to be a bit more discriminating as to the type and nature of TB comments they put up. I'm a right winger from Efrat and have never experienced any problem getting my posts up on HaAretz. It is important to keep trying! Best of Luck with it.

Dear Alex, I would look forward to hearing from you. My email is harmenbreedeveld@hotmail.com