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Rabbis: EU meat label bid an 'insult'
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Published: 25.04.11, 08:14
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1. why wont you stun it too?
ronen   (04.25.11)
it will be more humane towards the animal and thus in accordance to the spirit of the bible. apart from that i think the kashrut laws are idiotic. for instance if a chicken fell from more than one meter than its not kosher. or if its throat had been bruised by the food. i think these are arhaic laws which just make the meat that much costlier. we dont need all these mashgihei kashrut in israel because most of them get money for checking things we dont care about.
2. Strange, but the eurabians do not care
jason white ,   afula, israel   (04.25.11)
how a Jews is killed. Only that he is dead. The Jews living in that butcherland of Jews call "europe" should leave now. That continent is not healthy for Jews. They will kill Jews either physically or spiritually.Their business of killing Jews is 2,000 years old.
3. A problem ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (04.25.11)
As most kosher meat is bought by Jews who know that "schechita" is NOT cruel .
4. the kosher meat business dilemna. !
jo   (04.25.11)
An innocent and down to earth. relevant question as well. With all the attention focused on meat for human consumption; stunned or not, labeled or not, barbaric or not; the EU (not having anything else to do ) seems to be concerned with the well being of it's citizens and the large anount of money spent on new rules, regulations and labeling. As a matter of interest to the civilized world, why not regulate the slaughtering of innocent men, women, children, daily by the hundreds, the thousands (no one knows ) in the muslim world -- while in the health business, why not inspect, regulate a different type of meat business with an A, B, or C, ALL the houses of ill repute infesting Europe with dubious characters as customers. Their infection is far more damaging to health than mislabeling meat.. The EU seems to be greatly unconcerned with the non stunning of victims and the sanitation of a sharp knife prior to slitting in the arab world. Are they working on solving these problems as well?. I am writing this comment under the freedom of speech, afforded to free men in a free country.
5. there is a stigma attached to wanting to be different
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (04.25.11)
unfortunately it comes with the territory.
6. labelling
Mike ,   UK   (04.25.11)
Why shouldn't consumers be told that the animal sold has not been pre-stunned?. Do you think its so easy and painless to kill a cow by having its throat slit? I have heard all the arguments about stunning and other methods but ultimately, consumers have a right to know and make their own choices.
7. Europe is sick
Danny ,   Chile   (04.25.11)
Europe is sick, fox hunting, shooting to flying birds, bullfight, bear hunting as sport is not animal cruelty. All of Eurabia will be muslim in a few years. And Jews hate always start there.Jews expels from Spain crusades,inquisition,pogroms, shoa, etc.
8. #1 because that is not halachically legal
Zvi   (04.25.11)
Animals slaughtered using the proper kosher technique and equipment stand quietly, evidencing no pain or distress - when compared to the high failure rate of stunning, which leaves the animal in severe pain.
9. Education
Ethan Schwartz ,   Eilat, Israel   (04.25.11)
With a little education the Kosher slaughter houses would be inundated with work. Explain and document the advantages of Kosher slaughter and everyone will want to by Kosher Slaughtered meat.
10. Barbaric is exaclty what it is
Avi ,   Israel   (04.25.11)
11. make up your mind-
Ramon ,   Europe   (04.25.11)
I thought you Jews wanted to KNOW if the meat is kosher- so what is the problem? Ritual slaughter is just that- ritual, archaic, barbaric- the European non jewish public has a right to KNOW if the animal was tortured and killed. It is a JEWISH custom, so don't force the rest of us to follow it. Majority rule- understand that?
12. TRUTH ABOUT " KOSHER" MEAT
Dom Fownded ,   Montreal   (04.25.11)
Hidden Cameras placed on employees in slaughter houses proved beyond a fact that "kosher" agriprocessors produce constantly none kosher meats and sell them as kosher. The meat producers lie to and hide from the public the truth. They refuse the option of having animal welfare monitors and cameras installed to oversee the slaughters. For a slaughtered animal to be considered kosher it must not suffer or be abused according to strick kosher laws in Judaism, see the videos at these links, you will see that the throats are ripped out 2 seconds after the kosher ritual was performed thus making the animal slaughtered not kosher. See the viseo at these links and you decide. The 1st video shows what is a real kosher method witch leaves the animal with no suffering, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZJg_z4BLy8&feature=related This next video proves the animals are tortutred, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdJwdJ_SR6g&feature=related Now if you think your eating kosher meats, ha ha on you and if you continue to eat these meats, then you are two faced. See the slaughter yourself if you want kosher meat.
13. #12 anti-kosher propaganda
daniel ,   israel   (04.25.11)
We are well aware of the Agriprocessors scandal. If you didn't know, what they were doing was unacceptable under kosher rules. The EU cares more about animal rights then human rights, obviously. Stunning has a failure rate as well. This is all to make the work of the meat industry more painless for the human and mechanical, yet how has the EU prohibited the mass breeding of animals which is completely inhumane?
14. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
David Fakheri ,   Los Angles   (04.25.11)
" warning it could kill kosher food business $$$$$$ " is exactly what is the problem!. David , La, USA
15. 12Tortured animals are not Kosher..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (04.25.11)
and do not receive a, from Haredi recognized ,Kashrut.
16. Meat = killing
(04.25.11)
Killing is a barbaric act, no matter how it is carried out, and no matter who is the victim, a human being or an animal.
17. #7 Danny raises a good point
Carl ,   USA   (04.25.11)
European hypocrites should first ban their "blood sports" that torture animals strictly for human entertainment. Bullfighting in particular should be outlawed as a cruel and inhumane activity.
18. oh for goodness sakes...just align yourselves w/Hallal....
presente ,   aqui   (04.25.11)
meat butchers and protest together! Because Hallal meat butchers and Kosher meat butchers have the same issue to work out with the European food fascists...once the European food fascists realize that they would also be frustrating Hallal meat butchers they will stop their silliness! Trust me on this one deep in your hearts you know I am right!
19. It's all about money and control ,...
split ,   US   (04.25.11)
Those dudes like think that they're above the law - After all they were appointed by God and who the hell are you to question their authority ? ,..
20. 18 ,...
split ,   US   (04.25.11)
Hallal meat butchers in EU are stunning their animals before slaughtering ,...
21. Label is a good idea
Adam Helberg ,   USA   (04.25.11)
Unfortunately the kosher killing is archaic. It may have been considered the most humane thousands of years ago, but no longer is. In any case a label will make people think about what we do to our animals and perhaps reduce meat consumption.
22. #11
(04.26.11)
don't you realize that jews do not dictate in any way in europe. this is why you are called eurabia. it is the muslims, buddy, that are dictating to you now!
23. #19
(04.26.11)
i am so thrilled you agree we are so chosen. indeed, we are the greatest!
24. Kosher restrictions are bigotry unless hunting is outlawed
Dr. L. Brnd ,   San Diego, USA   (04.26.11)
Nations that restrict or stigmatize Kosher slaughter, allegedly in the name of animal "suffering", are practicing a crass and sleazy form of antisemitism unless they also outlaw all hunting (and whaling. and seal clubbing) which is obviously causing far more animal distress. In fact, none of these hypocrite nations restrict hunting in any way. US should ban all meat imports into the US from these nations as a protest against this bigotry.
25. I am stunned!
GM   (04.26.11)
26. non-kosher slaughtering is barbaric & inhumane
Koko ,   USA   (04.26.11)
The kosher way is to cut the animal's throat but the non-kosher way is to electricute the animal's brain AND AND AND then cut the animal? Non-kosher slaughtering is barbaric & inhumane. Period.
27. To 22. EU also regards Halal slaughter as BAD. Ynet just
Max ,   NYC   (04.26.11)
didnt mention that part.
28. Kosher slaughter
Marilyn ,   USA   (04.26.11)
Kosher slaughter is one of those high maintenance things. If going to have this, then the Jewish people overall need to get interested and knowledgeable and be involved about every part of the process. Of course in asking for this, can hear the screams of protest now, cause it's like no one really wants to be involved.
29. If some people are proud of this method...
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (04.26.11)
... and think it is the best and the right way to go, why are they worried about details on the label? You would think they would want the world to know!
30. The muslims say Jews are
Sam ,   ME   (04.26.11)
controlling the world the Jews say muslims are controlling the world!!!?? who is controlling the world we need to make up our minds
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