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Report: Turkey to defuse Israeli Navy weapons
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Published: 12.09.11, 18:32
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91. Tutkish warships
Orly ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (09.12.11)
The is not much to add to all the comments but to stress again to the European Union and the United States, that Mr. Erdogan is a very dangerous man who can start world war III. President Obama, please react before it is too late and stop arming this madman. Turkey does not belong to NATO with its present administration. Please stop arming him, or you are in for a surprise.
92. Turkey wanted just an apoligy
Alperen Aydın ,   London UK   (09.12.11)
do you know how this fight started first? Israeli soldiers killed 6 turkish citizen who was in ''mavimarmara ship'' which was going to Gaza with humanistic help.And after that Israeli government took the citizens to prisons for few days and didn't let them to do anything.That was a result of attack but Erdogan did not choose war and he wanted to find his countries rights by BM and NATO.Nowadays if Israeli racist Netanyahu government do not find anything to take Turkey's heart it is obvious that Israel will lose too many things and if the war will start between Turkey and Israel all Arabian countries will be placed with Turkey and Israeli government might find themselve against all the midle east. I hope Israel can understand how Ottomans children are powerful Best wishes
93. talha #55 largest not strongest
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.12.11)
Your air force is a joke, we rebuilt your tanks so we know how bad they are. The last war you got into was 1918 and didn't do too well then. Erdogen has purge your military of every competent officer, just like Stalin. In short shut and sit down before you get spanked.
94. Sarah B #62 that's okay
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.12.11)
The US Air Force attacked the US Navy, US Coast Guard and the Royal Australian Navy in 1968. Sinking one US warship and damaging several others.
95. if blockade fails then israel must reoccupy gaza
bernard ross ,   st anns bay, jamaica   (09.12.11)
it is the only way to stop terror from gaza
96. Well I guess some men just can't be reached
Ben Halevi ,   Bitolla Macedonia   (09.12.11)
Androgen is taking the nation of Turky to a place they don't want to go. Honestly I think such a man shouldn't be trusted with a Nato membership.
97. Sayin Alperen Aydin
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (09.13.11)
This started when AKP government allowed the IHH challenge Israel's legally justified (See UN Palmer report) Gaza blockade. Every IHH passenger on that ship knew that they were not going to the trip in peace. In fact the AKP congressman who were originally scheduled to be in the boat decided not to go at the last minute. Al Arab countries sided with Greece in the mater of Cyprus while Israel supported Turkey. Israel helped Turkey in the lifting of the US embargo and many other matters when Turkey needed the help. Israel proved time and time again that it was KARA GUN DOSTU for Turkey. However AKP government acted like NANKOR.
98. Erdogan, dear, stop being an idiot.
leo ,   usa   (09.13.11)
Who the hell do you think you are talking to, defenseless Armenians and Kurds?
99. Ira
Fairness4All ,   London   (09.13.11)
Hi Ira, Just to let you know Ira, my name is not Matt Ira, and neither am I a liberal, Ira. Blockading a port, Ira, is not an act of war. Did the Soviet Union declare war when the US blockaded Cuba? Did the USA or the UK go to war when the Soviet Union blockaded Berlin? Learn some history, Ira, Israel started more wars in the last 50 years than the so-called Arabs threat, Ira. I don't particularly give a damn about international law, since the UN/UK et all are the idiots that got us into this mess in the first place. It saddens me so many people on this thread don't seem to wonder why Ynet News is the only one reporting this so-called scoop. No sources? Hey no problem. Have a nice day......Ira.
100. Obama
Gene Graczyk ,   Santa Rosa, CA USA   (09.13.11)
Worst president? Muslim? Then why are others in this conversation demanding that he help you? This is a mess of Israel's own design--blame Avigdor and Bibi if you want to blame anyone. You have shown nothing but arrogance to your neighbors and disdain for the US. Jordan, Egypt, Turkey and the US diaspora have had it with you. You have time and again claimed special status, insisted that you needed no one. Stand alone now--this is what you claimed you wanted. Now you have it and you must live it.
101. To: Gee at No. 94
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.13.11)
In the immortal words of Casey Stengel -- "Can't anybody here play this game?" It's comforting to know that the Israelis can play it very well indeed ...
102. So Ynet decides to headline with a fake story
Danny   (09.13.11)
and bury the fact it is fake inside... Welcome to Israeli journalism.
103. To: No. 92
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.13.11)
That is not how it started at all. As the Palmer Report has revealed, it started when the Turkish government financed and underwrote a supposed "humanitarian aid" flotilla which was intended to breach Israel's fully legal and internationally recognized blockade of the Gaza Strip. Most of the passengers aboard the MAVI MARMARA, which ignored Israel's request to heave to, were IHH terrorists and their supporters. They attacked the Israeli troops that boarded the vessel, thereby forcing the Israelis to respond with deadly force. No one in their right mind apologizes for killing terrorists. And the more Erdogan demands one, the more ridiculous he comes across. The Ottomans are not at all powerful, unless you believe that shooting unarmed Kurdish civilians, committing genocide the Armenians and killing innocent Greeks in Cyprus is in some fashion a demonstration of power. It isn't. It's a demonstration of extreme cowardice.
104. Does Isreal Have A Short and Long Range Plan ?
Dan ,   USA   (09.13.11)
My own belief is that this is exactly what Obama wants and that Bibi doesn't have the guts to confront Turkey militarily. Obama will only be in office until January 2013, but Turkey becomes a bigger problem as they are tilting rapidly towards the jahadists. And as Iran comes closer to becoming a nuclear power, we must hope Bibi has a plan to keep Israel and Israelis safe without giving up the country to Obama and the other terrorists.
105. to Sarah B at no 103
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (09.13.11)
Who created Erdogan-I'm serious here?
106. to nr. 103.
sjoerd ruurd van der ,   mankindnation/land..   (09.13.11)
hey, mrs./ms. coward again. fight your own war against turkey etc., try to defeat them and leave the idf outside it.
107. Neutralise?
Henry from New York ,   USA   (09.13.11)
There are only three ways to neutralise weapons on a modern ship. An EMP (which is created by a nuke), a computer virus of some sort, or physically destroying them. Is Turkey saying it will destroy the weapons on their ships? If not, what do they mean? This sounds pretty damn warlike to me.
108. Talkers here are drunk..especialy this
Mike   (09.13.11)
delusional patient Sara B. IDf has no battle experience. The only forces they been fight is Hamas and Hezbo, both are civilian militias, both did quite well against the IDF. IDF last battle against regular army was in 1973 against an inferior Egyptian Army. 3 days into it, Half the Israeli Air force and tanks were gone, vanished. It took US 10 days of around the clock C5's landing in Israel with new planes, tanks and personal to turn it around. Well i got news for you..The Turkish army is slightly, just slightly more advanced, better equipped and trained than that Egyptian army. US is unlikely to empty again their Military bases in Europe for Israel. In the words of Clint Eastwood... Make my day.....
109. #64 If NATO aids a member state...
Leo ,   United States   (09.13.11)
in their wars, then why aren't British Tornado fighter-bombers and American F-16s going on missions against the Kurds in Northern Iraq? You seem to believe that the NATO charter states that NATO member states will aid a fellow member state in offensive actions initiated by that member state. Nothing of the kind is true though. If PM Erdogan orders the Turkish military to attack Israel, look for NATO assets to be pulled out of Turkey in short order... to protect theml
110. #100, Gene Gracyk
israeli ,   israel   (09.13.11)
Why are we calling on Pres. Obama at this time? Let me tell you first that nobody is calling for American military intervention. But let me also remind you that a mere six months ago, Pres. Obama stood before AIPAC are reaffirmed America's ironclad commitment to Israel's security, declared that a strong and secure Israel is in the national security of the US, and also pledged to maintain Israel's qualitative military edge. For the past half a century or so each and every American president has adhered to this position. That is why some people might think that perhaps now is a good time for Hillary Clinton to call Ankara, before Erdogan's feet go farther down his throttle. Where is she, by the way?
111. Turkeys Navy cannot hide
Don Driscoll ,   Goldsboro USA   (09.13.11)
The Israelis know where each and every Turkish ship is located now and whether or not their engines are running. We knew where every Soviet Submarine and surface vessel was located during the cold war. We watched and LISTENED using sattelites. A Naval officer told me more than 25 years ago that every time a certain Soviet Ship started its engines we detected it by its sound signature and followed the vessel every minute of every day. They could not detect our Nuclear Submarines because they are much too quiet.
112. Hahaha - board an Israeli navy vessel?
William ,   Israel   (09.13.11)
yeah good luck with that. So Turkey is going to send a crack commando team to board an iIraeli ship and disable their weapons...how? I guess by taking the batteries out.
113. Hahaha - right from the book of Arab propaganda...
William ,   Israel   (09.13.11)
He's following the story line of the perfect despot. First, find a reason to name someone the enemy. Second, taunt the "enemy" from a protected position in order to gain domestic favor. Third, announce that you're saving the free world from this "enemy" and will protect them by force. A 3-part strategy to give the folks at home the feeling of grandeur and pride as the next world's super-power. Hitler did it. Staling did it. Mao Tse-Tong did it. Nasser did it. The Iranian mullahs did it. The president of Khazakstan did it. Now Erdogan does it. Classic!
114. #99 - "Israel started more wars in 50 years than Arabs"
William ,   Israel   (09.13.11)
How, by breathing? Because that's all it took to cause the Arabs to launch simultaneous attacks on the Jewish State, one time during the holiest Jewish day when most people were fasting, praying, and sleeping. Who started war on 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 1987, 2000, 2006, 2009? It always involved an Arab attack, and they've made their threats both public and made them often. You might not care about Intl law, and its certain you don't care about factual history. Infact, you live in your own bubble where you are the ruler - a typical Mayor of Simpleton. The only right point you made was regarding the UK getting us all in this mess to begin with - by promising different groups the same piece of land, to gain favors. The UN isn't a problem since they just followed the directives by the League of Nations the UN replaced. Let's reverse all of the UK's bastard actions, like Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, the massive influx of illegal economic immigrants from Arab lands unimpeded in the 1930s, etc.
115. #92 - started years ago, you myopic idiot
William ,   Israel   (09.13.11)
Turkey has been pushing on Israel since before 2006. Since you seem to suffer from ADHD you probably missed the weeks of diplomacy that Israel engaged in to get Turkey to stop this illegal flotilla. Israel warned them constantly of what could happen, yet the flotilla went as planned...with violent Islamists making shahid videos and gathering weapons to break a war-time blockade. As an illegal act of war, the occupants on those ships became prisoners and thus were justified to be jailed until they could be processed. Once they were processed, met with their consuls, and chose to leave the country, they were released. Wow - 3 days jail for running a military blockade? Turkey will send you to jail for 10 years for insulting the Turkish pride of the country.
116. Beauchard #90 why don't you try reading it?
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.13.11)
You are the one with the problem misunderstanding it, not the rest of us. "an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America " Turkey has already committed one act of war against us, and they are not located in Europe, nor are we. They are threatening to attack us and Greece and Cyprus. The UN Charter states the same thing. The aggressor gets no such rights. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be very high on your ability list.
117. EU
ORHAN ,   USA   (09.13.11)
HEY STUPID TURKEY IS A NATO MEMBER..WHY NOT A MILLITARY WAR AGAINST TURKEY? NOT ENOUGH BALLS?
118. JEWISH WAY
David M ,   Los Angeles   (09.13.11)
Its about time Israel acted as a proud Jewish state should and go on the offensive diplomatically and militarily. Israel should send its warships into the mediterrenean and declare it would defend its and Cypriot gas fields. Diplomatically it should ut the focus on Turkish massacre of Kurds and occupation of their land. It should highlight the Aremnian holocaust and work with Congress to memorialize it. For all this to happen we JEWISH LEADERSHIP.
119. 1948 - 2011
David Fakheri ,   Los Angles   (09.13.11)
may be it is the time againg that Israel show the world one more miracle of god!. The IDF Miracles between 1948 - 2011 Daveed LA
120. @Gee, IAF
Lt ,   Tel aviv   (09.13.11)
The Israeli air force is not twice the size of turkey's, they have the same number of aircraft and turkey's is the third largest in NATO. Both have F16 and whilst the IAF have better pilots, claiming the entire Turkish navy would be wiped out in an hour is simply crazy. Their air force and air defences are strong wouldn't be that easily overcome. Anyway, this is all pointless as no war is going to happen.
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