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Israel is not alone
Guy Bechor
Published: 10.10.11, 09:05
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31. To No 12
Ruben Jacobi   (10.10.11)
Your death wish for Israel is never going to happen.Your are living in a fantasy world to think that Israel is going to make peace with your lot, whose avowed claim is to destroy it, so it,s not simple.
32. " Those who try to isolate Israel end up isolating themse "
Maurice ,   Montreal   (10.10.11)
How true!
33. Some great truths in this article
Maurice ,   Montreal   (10.10.11)
"Those who try to isolate Israel end up isolating themselves. " "Israel is culture, while its objectors are anti-culture." "With great talent, Erdogan has been taking Turkey down to the status of a Third World country that cannot be trusted. " Excellent article by Bechor!
34. However in the long term...
esnuffnstl ,   USA   (10.10.11)
...it's not looking good for Israel. It's becoming increasingly isolated in the Mid East, losing two of its only "friends" in the past year (Turkey and Egypt.) It's sole protector in the world, the US, is bogged down with debt and Americans increasingly want our government to focus on domestic issues. Europeans are fickle, but recently the leaders of both Germany and France have spoken out against Israel. So Israel is not alone, eh? Denial is always the first hurdle to overcome. If Israelis aren't honest about their position in the world they won't push for the change that is needed for Israel to be truly secure as a nation.
35. christianpalestinian #12 how about you?
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (10.10.11)
Why are YOU personally occupying Indian lands? The Arabs squatting in Judea and Samaria occupy Jewish lands and are Jordanian citizens. Like all illegal foreigners occupying somebody's lands they need to be sent back to their own country.
36. I have noticed the exact same thing here in Belgium.
robert renders ,   belgium   (10.10.11)
The political talk is much more pro-israel than it used to be in Belgium. The people talk much less in favor of Palestine than they used to. It's clear that the tide is changing fast. I have noticed that months ago, and it seems I'm not alone... I have always been a supporter of Israel, I hope it's neighbours would seek peace and demcracy as much as Israel does.
37. JESUSALEN
JESUSALEN ,   JESUSALEN   (10.10.11)
UP FROM THE ASHES OF DESPAIR AND LOSS YEARS OF ENSLAVEMENT NOW COME WITH A HIGHER COST BUREAUCRACY YOU CHOSE TO RULE WITH FEAR NOW FEEL THE WRATH THAT COMES FROM ALL THOSE YEARS YOU CHOSE TO SHUT YOUR EYES NOW REPENT RISE OF THE FALLEN SUFFER THE HAND YOU DEALT YOURSELF RISE OF THE FALLEN THE FALLACY OF FRACTURED WEALTH RISE OF THE FALLEN IGNORE THE PARTS OF YOUR MACHINE RISE OF THE FALLEN DRINK FROM THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUR POISONED DREAM DESTROY THE WORLD AND ALL THE WARS WE ARE ON ASHES TO ASHES DUST TO DUST WILL COME I THE DESTROYER OF BOTH WORLDS BORN FROM THE WOMB OF INSULT I COME YOU CHOSE TO SHUT YOUR EYES NOW REPENT YOU CHOSE TO SHUT YOUR EYES NOW REPENT RISE OF THE FALLEN SUFFER THE HAND YOU DEALT YOURSELF RISE OF THE FALLEN THE FALLACY OF FRACTURED WEALTH RISE OF THE FALLEN IGNORE THE PARTS OF YOUR MACHINE RISE OF THE FALLEN DRINK FROM THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUR POISONED DREAM DRINK FROM THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUR POISONED DREAM BLED FROM YOUR MACHINE CHOKE ON THE SPIRITS THAT YOU TRIED TO EAT NOW ON YOU THEY FEED YOU BUILD THE PART NOW YOU PLAY IT WE BECOME THE MASTER DROWN IN ALL THE LAUGHTER LAW FROM BELOW NOW YOU OBEY IT DEATH COMES NEVER FASTER THIS IS THE DISASTER
38. JESUSALEN
JESUSALEN ,   JESUSALEN   (10.10.11)
BACK TO THE PRIMITIVES FUCK ALL YOUR POLITICS WE GOT OUR LIFE TO LIVE THE WAY WE WANT TO BE BACK TO THE PRIMITIVES FUCK ALL YOUR POLITICS WHO FEELS IT KNOWS IT AND LORD WILL GUIDE ME BACK TO THE PRIMITIVE FUCK ALL YOUR BULLSHIT WE ARE BACK TO SET IT FREE CONFRONTING THE NEGATIVE BACK TO THE PRIMITIVE FUCK ALL YOU WANNABES YOU DO NOT MEAN SHIT TO ME LET IT BLEED PRIMITIVE HOW IT USED TO BE CHECK YOUR REALITY FOREVER WE WILL BE WHAT WE WANT TO BE
39. Israel support
PJW5552 ,   Lexington, USA   (10.10.11)
First, it is not Israel per say that has lost support, but Israeli leadership. The mood is decidedly far more negative toward that leadership than in any time in the past 60 years. People are fed up with the dishonesty and efforts to manipulate opinion for which Netanyahu is famous. It is not the Palestinians fault that Netanyahu continues to build in the West Bank and Golan Heights in order to dampen interest in peace talks. West Bank Palestinians have taken a "non-violent" approach to the problem of Israeli apartheid practices and it is working. The UN security and UN general assembly have yet to take their votes, but when they do trust me it will be a lot more lopsided and indicative of just how far the pendulum has swung against Netanyahu and his policies than Bechor wishes to admit.
40. Great article. However, Israel doesn't accept terror state.
Chaim ,   Israel   (10.10.11)
This article is great. Far from being isolated, Israel is opening up more embassies in more nations all the time. Moreover, our "Palestinian" enemies, who could count on the U.N. as their rubber stamp, can no longer do so. Western nations are fed up with U.N. pro-"Palestinian" machinations and have made that clear. Israel's emergence as a major energy power will isolate our enemies even further. "Palestinians" know this and it explains their desperation. They know this is their last chance at fictional Palestine. Boy are they in for a HUGE disappointment! The author errs in claiming Israel accepts the creation of a new terror state in Judea and Samaria. The vast majority of Israelis don't. A recent, highly publicized poll, showed almost 80% of Israeli Jews oppose ceding Judea and Samaria.
41. Perhaps Mr.Bechor is right in general,
Merca ,   Barcelona.SPAIN   (10.10.11)
but in some countries,for instance,Spain,my country,Israel,is for the leftist media,one of their favourite punching bags.
42. Things changed in UK last year
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (10.10.11)
Mr Bechor is right to sense a change in attitudes towards Israel,but he fails to have noticed the influence that government has on public opinion.Possibly I should say,on the perception of public opinion.The big change came in Britain with the removal of the Blair/Brown New Labour government that was leading anti-Israel sentiment from the top.Certainly,the New Labour years were the period of most antipathy towards Israel that I can remember.Tony Blair never missed an opportunity to publicly blame Israel for all the troubles in the Middle East ,EVEN IRAQ. Had the new Justice Secretary,Kenneth Clarke,not dealt with it,Israelis would still be in danger of politically motivated private prosecution in Britain.His New Labour predecessor,Jack Straw,approved of the situation and blocked attempts to change it. Mostly,though,I should point out that,apart from those who are willing to be led by the nose by their politically correct mentors,the British PEOPLE didn't have the same antipathy towards Israel...they have more common sense.They did,and still do,have sympathy for Palestinian Arabs who they see,in the British way,as under-dogs and in a hard place.That's another thing altogether,and shouldn't be mistaken for anti-Semitism or anti-Israel sentiment. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
43. @30.
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (10.10.11)
I believe we share a sentiment. But I would like my country out as well.
44. Canada
Andy ,   Canada   (10.10.11)
The changed and far more positive view of Israel is certainly true in Canada under Prime Minister Stephen Harper. The PM has defended Israel on the world stage at the Francophone Summit, G8 summits and at the UN. Consistently.
45. AGAIN A GREAT ARTICLE FROM GUY WHICH INCREASE OUR MORAL !!
Mark ,   t.a.Israel   (10.10.11)
46. # 3 Raf Athens
Anadelfos ,   Athens Greece   (10.10.11)
Dear Raf you obviously speak for yourself.I can ensure you that the general mood in Greece is more pro-israeli now, than it was a decade ago.This is the result of palestinian actions and general behavior, which isolated herself from european values.Terror attacks like the one Abu Nidal executed on the passenger ship "City of Poros", just outside Aegina island, helped greeks to realize what is really going on.The continous launching of missiles and mortars against Israel's cities without any discrimination, and finally the murderous attack against Fogel family,( not to mention the missile against a school bus), revealed who the real terrorists are. As Golda Meir said some years ago, peace will come when the Arabs start to love their children more than they hate Israel.It is so simple. Nobody would ever like to coexist with somebody who declares his neighbour's annihilation, as his primary task.Kali nyxta...
47. re Israel doesn't accept terror state
Linda ,   Brooklyn Park   (10.11.11)
Chaim, couldn't agree more. Barak tried it and failed. Where is the re-badged argument going to get Israel? Nowhere. And why should israel cede any more land, when all they get is rockets and stones thrown back at them? Why?
48. Encouraging
phily ,   Canada   (10.11.11)
I often wondered when "decent " folks would get tired of the one sided, blame Israel game being foisted on the public. Now if someone, entity, country, etc. could get the CBC, CTV to show a more balanced viewpoint(along with other world media), I believe we could make some progress. I,for one am getting tired of the same old shtick that is followed by most media as though they are reading a common, tired script written by the Palestinians and Arabs. Wake up time, perhaps they and Obama have overplayed their hand?
49. isolation
joseph wall ,   louisville,ky   (10.11.11)
Brilliant article. Israel leaders should listen carefully to what Bechor writes and take those words to heart .
50. @ 41
sophie ,   nl   (10.11.11)
I think you are right about the Spanish leftist media, but there is also the problem that a lot of people in Spain don't have access to more conservative media for example in English due to the lack of knowledge of English.
51. the West Bank
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it would be a huge mistake to believe that anybody outside of Israel is even aware of the desire of many Israelis to keeep the West Bank. It is taken for granted outside of Israel that the Palestinians will have an independent state in the West Bank. There would be zero support in the west for Israel keeping the West Bank. You dont have to give a damn about support , but dont fool yourself that there is possibly support for Israel hanging onto the West Bank.
52. #51 You mean Judea & Samaria!
robert renders ,   belgium   (10.11.11)
53. if
Jasmin ,   jerusalem   (10.11.11)
if evrybody say it is my home i will be thankfull but if evrybody say it is not mine i still be here and never say it is n ot ..iam jasmin the palastinian girl my home is here
54. MISTER GUY BECHOR
SJOERD RUURD VAN DER ,   MANKIND-COUNTRY   (10.11.11)
THAT VIEW CAN BE CONSIDERED AS A PRO REVISIONIST ZIONIST ISRAELIST OPINION, WITH ALL RESPECT AND UNDERSTANDING.
55. Great News for Israel
Moragh USA   (10.11.11)
I wondered when the non-arab world was going to awaken and see the results of their folly. God does not sleep. I don't quite know exactly how, but He got His message through. How could it be any other way? Bravo Israel, you are truly the best. Well, didn't the Good Lord say He would NEVER Leave or FORSAKE you.
56. Christianpalestinian
macktheknife   (10.11.11)
Go back home thug to your wasteland desert.
57. Little Jasmin @ 53
11.10.2011   (10.11.11)
If you are a little arab girl (Palestinian) then I hate to bust your bubble honey. You are a foreigner squatting (with your family) on Israeli land. I think it is time for you to go home. Find out where you really come from, and move there! There's plenty of land for all arabs on the arabian desert. In turn, you could also move to Egypt... now there's real arab land for you and it houses millions of people.
58. Legitimate what is that created you are RIGHT ???
M. S. ,   mpls america   (10.12.11)
God created Jews whether the state of Israel is legitimate and or no not is pointless but I have never considered it to be totally legitimate the bible is vague as are all bibles like a diamond mine map treasure map where is the Lost Dutchman gold mine many questions exist in search of wealth riches thus no need to expect America to not support a state of Israel this is what it does it even supported South Viet Nam before that fell through it supports South Korea Germany Japan it sees Cuba as a base fior Russian expansion but Israel ??? legitimate ??? not in any way except the way Jews Israelis want to see themselfs I do not ask I do not expect any Arabs to see it Egypt well not a popular thing the treaty it has Jordan same but Jordan has a King Saudi Arabia has a oil shiek royal family monarchy clan tribe whatever who knows what Syria is except Assad runs the military so on no I do not expect Arabs to recognize any Israel co exist well if it is the best profitable way sure why not America is hardly giving money away except to the ultra top people buying countrys governments but the masses suffer from inequality I suffer inequality but it is nice Hamas made a deal with the Israeli government to release return Schalot I hope he will be returned they seem to have found agreement about exchanging prisioniers although many Israelis do not approve still it is important to show we care about every Israeli soldier especially any held prisionier we would do the same for any Israeli soldier this is a Israeli tradition expected of our government but I still think a Syria Israel war is needed possibly with Hezbollah even Turkey helping Syria this would help both Arabs Jews it is a sure thing peace like the word chance great for casino owners gamblers like Caucasians so on not so good for Arabs Jews we are based up on sure things not chances chances are what Caucasians do best because they control that equation any way I hope a Syria Israel war happens if a miracle saves me lets me turn in to a S A the world may pay dearly for cheating me for 67 years I live in absolute poverty am at the bottom of money life in America cheated all my life denyed what all other Americans get recieve but if a miracle saves me America the world may pay dearly for it but luckily they think I am just a crazy 67 mentaly ill old Jew with delusions of revenge grandeur luckily for me tough luck if I ever turn out to be a real S A danger by some lucky miracle like what happened for Schalot hopefully RIGHT ??? Thank You... M. S.
59. .. but only after a v_e_r_y long time.
AvnerA ,   UK   (10.30.11)
Possibly too long.
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