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Blame it on the rabbis
Yakir Elkariv
Published: 15.12.11, 11:16
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1. Give names, Mr. Elkariv!
Naftush ,   Israel   (12.15.11)
Name "the rabbis" who endorse mosque-burning, stone-throwing, and raids on army bases. Take your evidence to the police. If you can't, don't waste your time and the readers' on empty generalizations. By doing so, you join those who blame the current insanity on "settler frustration," "media bias," "left-leaning judges," Bibi Netanyahu, etc.
2. 100% correct jail the lunatic rabbis
Haim ,   TA   (12.15.11)
Starting with the ring master himself Ovadia Yosef .
3. Right. unseen, unknown and non-existent
Sceptic   (12.15.11)
4. RUBBISH!
Israeli grandma   (12.15.11)
This is small potatoes compared with the weekly provocations at Bilin, Nebi Samuel etc. every Friday for several years now, not just our Arab enemies but Jewish provacteurs, "anarchists" and other trouble makers like Peace Now, with their cameras at the ready to encourage extravagant behaviour. Suddenly a few confused Jewish youngsters are drawing much more media attention. If the Authorities deal with this problem properly it will soon be damped down. On the other hand, the Friday provocations against our army, including throwing rocks at them on a regular basis, will continue.
5. A bit hard on the hilltop scum
r cummings ,   london UK   (12.15.11)
They are just practising what they have been brought up to believe by Israeli governments of all political persuasions. Namely, that Palestine is Jewish land, because an old book asserts so, Israel will stretch from the sea to the river, as per Likud Charter, arabs are just immigrants and are untrustworthy vermin, the state will bribe Jews to settle in the Occupied Territory and will steal land, force out the owners and build illegal settlements to accommodate them, settlers will be shown indulgent leniency by the courts and police, be protected by the police and army, and arabs will get the opposite, harsh treatment, beatings and imprisonment. The only concern among Israeli Jews is that the hilltoppers have been a little too zealous on this occasion, nobody is questioning the underlying problem. If you opt for, as a majority of Israelis did at the last election, an extremist ethnic and theocratic government, that means to seize its neighbours' land and will resort to any kind of subterfuge, force and suspension of democratic rights to do so, plus breach international law repeatedly to achieve its racist ends, then Israel has ceased to be a democratic western nation and has turned into a fascistic middle east one, little different from its much-criticised (by Jews) arab neighbours. So cut the hilltoppers some slack, they are just being the Zionist stormtroopers and brownshirts doing the dirty work that the majority back in Israel wants done but doesn't want to know about or see spoken about in public.
6. This generation is about blame not responsibility
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.15.11)
This government needs to start looking at what it has done to cause this change of situation, where the settlers who are the most pro-Israel people in the land, are becoming anti-IDF. Stop looking for someone else to blame, and start looking at what you have or have not done to cause this.
7. They're just fed up
eye for an eye   (12.15.11)
Taking the terrorist war back to the Arabs in precisely the 'proportion' the Arabs have been demanding for years.
8. This article is a hate rant...
Annie ,   Israel   (12.15.11)
I would like to know which rabbis support this behavior? and I will give you a list of many more that don't... Please don't spread baseless hatred.
9. Correct
Shimon ,   Cincinnati, USA   (12.15.11)
There is no difference between the ayatollahs preaching their brand of fascism and the rabbis preaching theirs. Religion requires the "I'm right, you're wrong." thinking which is nonsense to begin with. Go after the extremists, the fascists. Those who have to draw a 'difference' and those who 'label'. Come to think of it, that encompasses just about everyone. Here's a radical thought: Become the change you wish to see in the world. Lead by example. "Acherai."
10. The problem
michaelpielet ,   israel   (12.15.11)
the problem is Bibi has to deal with Obama. Bibi uses Barack to oppress the giborai Israel living in Judea and Samaria.
11. No Jew or Gentile can expel Jews.
DAVID JACOBS ,   HASMONAIM ISRAEL   (12.15.11)
If the U.S. or any country would destroy Jewish Homes they would be called anti semites. Eretz Yisrael belongs to the Am Yisrael and Tzahal should not expel Jews. The hilltop youth are being provoked by Bibi and Barak. We will not walk away like sheep like happened in Gush Katif and Yamit.
12. #1, #8
(12.15.11)
Rabbi Zimmerman and Rabbi Sternhell, both from Jerusalem
13. Beit Hamikdash
Ben ,   New york   (12.15.11)
From a religious point of view of someone who does not listen to Rabbis anymore as apposed to gathering opinions, stop blaming ANYBODY for ANYTHING, and start finding the solution instead. Blame never helped anyone only caused more fighting. Now find a damned solution before Iran bombs us all away because you have no respect for every thing G-d created including all people in the world. No offense, just stop blaming people. (this is exactly why beit hamikdash was destroyed.)
14. #3 Haim TA Be a gentleman, you first
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.15.11)
You're always inciting against the State of Israel, no matter what subject is involved Why not point out something positive you had said, if you can find it?
15. #9 Shimon - "Acherai"
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.15.11)
You're in Cincinanati, hardly a place to set the example from
16. Cummings #5
Nachman ,   Maale Adumim   (12.15.11)
We have enough of our own critics and certainly have no need for intellectually challenged lying anti-Jewish bigots like yourself. You will find more of your own kind on the Guardian's CIF website so do us the favour and crawl back under the slimy rock from where you unfortunately surfaced.
17. #4 Does the truth bother you?
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (12.15.11)
Thank God we have Peace Now and their cameras !!! It's about time you take your head out of the hole grandma !
18. Frustuation push the people to react in thisway
Avaram Goldsmith   (12.15.11)
Why all Israel gouvernement play Russian roulette without any scrouple.. The frustuation of actual ( same with old gouvernement) which practing zig zag policy by bring people to disperation and left without any option other to take law in their own hands. Some more deep analysis requires in order to correct the situation blaming the rabbais is baseless hate and totally lack on intellectual onesty.
19. Reminds me of the film "In a Time of Favour"
Henry from New York ,   USA   (12.15.11)
The rebbe basically pushed the children to extremism so that two of them decided it would be a good idea to blow up the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa Mosue.
20. #17 Gregg, Haifa
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.15.11)
Where is your Cameria, you're always asking other people to do your work Don't forget to put your Arab name on the camera, just in case you lose it
21. #5 r
solomon ,   bklyn   (12.15.11)
Likud charter "from the sea to the river"? Breach 'international law' [your own fantasy of what international law says]? Much criticized "by Jews" [as if only Jews criticize arab 'democracy’]? Your rants have always been diatribes; you are going 'above and beyond' in this one.
22. Blame those shoving far left agenda down Israel's throat.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.16.11)
Israel a a centre right state. All the eledtions and opinion polls tell us that. However, against the will of the huge majority of Israelis, destructive and reviled leftist policies are constantly being shoved down our throats. Israel votes for a patriotic right wing government. Instead we get racist Meretz policies of destroying Jewish homes. Israel gets lunatic leftist policies of freeing murderous terrorists while persecuting Jewish patriots. Israel is fed up with being ruled by a tiny minority of far leftists. No wonder a few are resorting to violence. I don't condone it but it's understandable. Blame those who are shoving a destructive far left agenda down Israel's throat.
23. Dhimmi
zivron   (12.17.11)
It all started with this Dhimmi belief system that islam is better developed than judaism . In some ways it is but its not about judaism , The power is with Military Science the Religions including Stalinism and nazism are the outer front motivating the cannon fodder.The zealots are now the bullies inflated with megaolmaniac delusions and its not just the islamic and jewish side , Megalomania is a human survival trait that in paradox leads to counterrevolutionary destructions .So tread carefully half the world is chaos and unpredictable .
24. from the beggining
nasmah ,   jerusalem   (12.18.11)
at time of Bingorion there was a touch between the religouse and the goverment but as this served that and that served this evrything is okey but nowadays it is hard to be the same system in middle east not in israil only
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