Shoot the Jewish terrorists
Uri Saguy
Published: 16.12.11, 15:26
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1. True, ugly face of Judeo-Quislings shines in this article!
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.16.11)
2. apoplexy
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.16.11)
The regular right-wing, nationalist and fascist talkbackers here will undoubtedly get apoplexy from this piece and will rightly deserve it. It has been a long time since I read something in YNET that accurately reflects a truth, which most of us don't want to hear. Saguy has the guts to say it out aloud.
3. They always issue statements in favour of their enemy like exchange Marwan for Shalit.
Prince ,   Nigeria   (12.16.11)
With this mindset, I have doubt that some Israeli leftist Official ever merited their position.
4. This writer should be arrested for encitement
BH ,   Iowa   (12.16.11)
5. Spot On!
Joshua ,   USA   (12.16.11)
Uri Saguy is absolutely right. Anyone threatening IDF soldiers in the way these Radical Morons did is a TERRORIST - pure and simple, and, should be treated as such.
6. Hypocrite and criminal
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (12.16.11)
Saguy is a hypocrite. He calls for shooting political opponents whose actions are milder than his friends on the Left. Worst, he calls for executing his political opponents as terrorists, when real terrorists who actually murdered civilians, including infants and children are released after serving short jail sentences. Worst, Saguy is a criminal. He cannot pretend that he is not aware of criminal law and army orders to realize that his call for using deadly force is illegal both according to military law and civil law. Worst, he is calling for selective use of deadly force based on race and political orientation, clear cases of incitement. Hopefully, the Attorney General will take note and file charges for incitement to murder and rebellion. Hopefully, the Defense Minister will take note and strip him of his rank.
7. Dear General Sir
Sagi   (12.16.11)
Thank you for stating all that you have said in the op-ed. Thank you for being so outspoken and indeed brave enough to tell the truth, not only as you see it, but as others, including myself, have been saying for a long time now. Perhaps if it comes from people of distinction, former leaders, like yourself, it will start to sink in. This country, this land that you and your forebears fought for and sacrificed for has entered a critical phase, the writing is on the wall and it spells one word, destruction.I hope I am wrong but my opinion is that it is too late to save the boat from sinking. Messianic prophesies inevitably lead to ruination and the breakdown of the fabric of society. The Crusades are a fine example of this as they left the lands of Europe in complete and total distress, England became bankrupt and as a result unimaginable taxes were levied on the populace which in turn caused the whole country and society to be unable to conduct their affairs normaly.All extremity leads to chaos, there are enough examples of this throughout history.
8. wrong
fad egypt   (12.16.11)
the rightist protesters who used the violence against the IDF are no terrorists because the terrorists are the people who moved by the idealogy of hatred and the desire to destroy the other and control him like the islamic terrorists , they want to destroy the west and the non muslim world and to control it but these violent protesters they dont want to destroy the IDF or they dont even hate them because they are zionists but they have some problems related to the issue of the outposts and the descrimination of the jews in judea and samaria , so they crossed the red lines and used the violence against the IDF , that is wrong , and its a crime , they must be punished but in the same time the government of israel must enter a dialogue with all the streams of the residents of judea and samaria like the yesha council and the hilltop youth to find a solution for their problems for example the outposts must be legalized and a compensation can be paid to the palestinians if it is proven that they are the real owners , that proposal was presented by the legal personnel to the government but Netanyahu did nothing it is a shame that netanyahu is ready to talk with the PA terrorists and isnt ready to talk with the resdients of judea and samaria shalom
9. No fool like an old fool, and with a gun no less.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (12.16.11)
10. And what of attacks on IDF from leftists and Arabs?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (12.16.11)
At least 130 IDF soldiers have been wounded in confrontations with Arabs and Israeli leftists at the fence protests alone. Do we hear Saguy calling to treat them as "terrorists" who deserve to be shot? He decries those who "ruin us" and "hail from our midst". But do not the leftists also hail from our (or at least your) midst? I'm not sanctioning the actions of those vandals and hooligans, but that's what they are. They're not terrorists. And the stupidity of assigning some 30% of IDF forces in the West Bank to watching for misdeeds by Jews reflects a faulty threat assessment and a gross misallocation of resources
11. Left Wing Violence
Joe Sombrero ,   USA   (12.16.11)
15 leftist riot today and a IDF soldier is assaulted but hey ignore them. Hey I'm sure Mississippi could have used this guy in the 60's.
12. Uri Saguy is insane .Those people never killed someone !
13. Right said.Period.
Marvin Strauss ,   Berlin & Germany   (12.16.11)
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (12.16.11)
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (12.16.11)
This was civil disobedience and petty vandalism ,not Terror and Saguy makes a fool of himself by using ,or rather abusing ,the term " TERROR " to suit his nasty and hateful agenda .Each and every day ,far worse incidents occur in every country in the world and are classed as petty crimes .Throwing paint or stones , calling names etc is not terror. These same people who Saguy likes to brand with the "T" word would ,if push came to shove ,defend Israel until their last drops of blood . I have little doubt that the actions of these " activists " ( another stupid term ) are unpleasant and inconvenient and problematic but a sense of proportion would be of help . Saguy ,and indeed all of us as part of the people of Israel need to do some serious and honest soul-searching. LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR LIKE ONESELF ...
16. This leftist Osloid guy incites for civil war
Sergio HaDaR ,   Copenhagen   (12.16.11)
What a leftist idiot! No one was even injured, and yet he never had such a proposal for the 138 soldiers injured by leftists stoning soldiers and throwing molotovs in Bil'in. He certainly did not make such a scandalous proposal against Arabs.
17. Is Israel falling into the same trap -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (12.16.11)
- of the Arabian Spring ?. The Arabian Spring is the Rise of the Society against the Totalitarian State. Now Has come the Same event to Israel but, this is the Spring of HASHEM. Shall now the State of Israel behave as the States of the Arabs ? The Men of Action, against, the Men of Knowledge, The State, against, The Society ?. Talkback nr 14 in the link - http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4162561,00.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCal6kE-r4 Let the Gods/Angels arise, they are conducting the Will of HASHEM thus - Isaiah 54 "Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child! For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife," saith the LORD. 2Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations; spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes. 3For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left, and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. 4"Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed; neither be thou confounded, for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. 5For thy Maker is thine husband" the LORD of hosts is His name" and thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; the God of the whole earth shall He be called. The LORD of Hosts has to stir up War aginst Israel, for to make Place for all HIS homecoming People. Arn.Sweden.
18. you have no clue
moty ,   usa   (12.16.11)
why dont you shoot the left traitors who throw stones hand in hand with the enemy at bilin for years. your opinion should have never been printed in a newspaper.
19. Sooner or later the land will be annexed
Kurt ,   san diego   (12.16.11)
How many more wars have to be fought before the apathetic Israeli leadership realizes the land belongs to Israel.
20. neostalinism
zivron   (12.16.11)
Saguy is adopting neostalinism and israel is not nine million square miles . Nonlethal means ought be used and pressures applied to strengthen state unity from the socialist democratic to the nationalist religious . Isreal needs to become a massive deterrant security state and the galut needs to give to fill social gaps . Nuclear shelters need be built escape plans organized and the destruction of islamic belligerant ability planned.
21. who says generals make the best decisons
alexi   (12.16.11)
i remind saguy that zeira and halutz have made terrible decisions costing israel lots of blood. Begin's attack on osiraq and the syrian hit were against the advice of generals. Who says you make good decisionis. And if israel has wars, loses lots of people and then agrees to the same terms you were workinig on(beyond israelbeing stupid), there is a difference- a treaty is only good if there is respect on both sides. The golan idea of a deal has baidetz,barak and you running scared and thinking syria will call off its nuclear and chemical programme and rein in hezbollah. That is absolute rubbish, garbage. Fine, you served the idf, good. But gerneals in many cases make bad national decisions. golan is one of them and your participation shows you to be stupid like livni. Golan is justifiably israeli, in ancient times, even in modern times because of 67 war. You weaken israel by offering to negotiate for it. And we don;t start from where the miserable coward and failure left off. Liberman's prescription is more apt-we keep golan and the border is quiet provided syria is quiet-end of story. I am sick of these bloody peaceniks who cause many israelis to be killed-peres, barak, olmert, livni, halutz and now saguy. real peace is one thing like canada and the US. Bullsh*t peace with arabs is not worth spending one second on. You,beilin, ben-ami are peas in a pod. Lastly,have you not heard-the palestinians are an invented people.
22. Who is going to take Israel seriously???
D   (12.16.11)
Who is going to take Israel seriously??? Really??? First, it has avoided every peace initiative possible with the Palestinians. Second, appeasement with real terrorists Third, afraid of what the worl might think! Fourth, and now it decides to lable a bunch of criminals "terrorists". What a joke Israel! Grow up!!!
23. Bravo Uri
Uzziel   (12.16.11)
You´re one of those "jews" leaving in the "Jewish state" who is more comfortable shooting jews than arabs or left wingers. A little bit unjewish and COWARD don´t you think? Just think about the following for a full minute...: What if HaShem really exists ?....
24. Does that mean ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.16.11)
that the IDF should shoot the Arab terrorists who so regularly plague us with their rioting, too? A little clarification would be good.
25. Treat patriots worse than terrorists! Lunacy.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.16.11)
The I.D.F. is under strict orders not to shoot real genocidal "Palestinian" terrorists, except under the most extreme conditions. Yet this former general wants the I.D.F. to shoot frustrated Jewish patriots, whose rights are systematically violated by the far left courts and judiciary. Absolute lunacy!
26. Before It's Too Late
Christy ,   Boston, US   (12.16.11)
Demand that everyone be subjected to the same laws in the same way. Shouldn't matter if they're Jewish or non; shouldn't matter what stream of Judaism they're from; shouldn't matter their political affiliation. Everyone should be treated the same. If you don't demand this from your law-makers and law-enforcers the country will consist of extremists who are willing to resort to mob rule when they disagree with something. Those who don't want to punish mob members because they're 'members of MY group' are shortsighted because moderates will eventually give up and leave.
27. To Lawrence et al
Sagi   (12.16.11)
who simply do not understand the implications and ramifications of chaos and anarchy. I am far from left but I am a realist. What the settlers and the Haredim are doing is leading this Nation to the brink of disaster by not only ignoring the law but by blatantly breaking the law and on top of that attacking those who have been designated by officialdom to impose the law for the sake of good public order. No Nation can survive anarchy, it must be dealt with in the most stringent way possible, anything short of this will produce disaster.This has zero to do with left or right, it has to do with keeping the fabric of society well woven as opposed to becoming undone.
28. Exxagerated reaction to actions of some young hotheads.
olim hadashim ,   tel aviv/israel   (12.16.11)
Maybe the real anger stems from the fact that the bulk of the jewish people are getting the power instead of the secular assimillationist elite.
29. Saguy
Michael Pielet ,   Israel   (12.16.11)
Saguy is a disgrace to his army uniform. I heard speak in the late 90's about peace with syria. This man suffers from delusions. He and his family are not needed in Israel. he should leave.
30. We must return to our moral boundaries
Avramele   (12.16.11)
As Prof. Leibowitz predicted, holding on to a land already the home to millions of Arabs is a descent into land worship and paganism. The good general speaks for the generations of Zionist Moses and Joshuas who built a state as a haven for Jews and their values not as vehicle of occupation and brutality. V'shavu banim l'gvulam, the return of sons to their borders, has a moral as well as physical dimension. Shabbat shalom!
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