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Europe's Islamic future
Giulio Meotti
Published: 18.12.11, 12:27
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61. Rekigion
Uzoozy ,   Irvine/Usa   (12.19.11)
Did you wonder why Islam is the most rapidily growing religion. I know why its beacuse is the only true religion. And the last of the Abrahamic religions which explain all the scriptures before that. Be open minded and you will learn why . God bless you
62. Sorry Folks
Uzoozy ,   Irvine/USA   (12.19.11)
Friend Islam is here to stay. God will preserve it as promised by Him. I love to get up in the morning to pray before dawn. God hears every prayer by anyone when said sincerly . Sorry I have the peace and blessing from Allah. No one can take it away from me. May God bless you .
63. To: Yossef at No. 60
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.19.11)
How happily did your family live in Algeria after the French were thrown out and Ben Bela became head of state? Under his guidance, the very first act was to expel all the Jews. Had you forgotten that, or were they lucky enough to leave before then? Given your roots, must I remind you what happened to the Jewish community of Constantin?
64. You've staked everything around that rather shaky hope, #23
Cameron ,   USA   (12.19.11)
Personally, I do believe the coming years will be a cultural nightmare for liberal Europeans, but perhaps I'll be proved wrong.
65. 60's yossef,
mary of bethany ,   singapore   (12.19.11)
the men who reduced 6 millions Jews into ashes are NOT true christians. so are NOT the crusaders who slaughtered Jews in Jerusalem from a more distanced history. you don't need to just depend on Ynetnews reports, or Jpost, or Arutz Sheva, you can simple go google and discover for yourselves how many cases of Jews' sufferings in arab countries for how many hundreds of years. don't believe me, go search yourself with a open heart. i too, am living next to a muslim neighbors (nice secular people). But i need to accept the truth that in many radical muslim majorities countries, Jews as well as christians suffer! you must take back your word: "christian never stopped killing Jews"! i demand! the Bible actually prophecized that Jews will be restored to Israel and be glorified in the last days, a lot of true christians know this! true christian who obey their scripture will never persecute Jews! It's because of people like you, Israel become weaker by the days! you may not suffer, but your offsprings will suffer the outcome of your wrong choosing if you continue to arab-bowing!
66. 43's Rube, there are righteous christians who defended Jews
mary of bethany ,   singapore   (12.19.11)
many christians went extra miles to hide and defended the Jews friends, (even Jews strangers that they knew not). many died along the ways. those are chosed to be silent, moaned to their grandchildren that they should have spoken out. Because of Europe betrayed of the Jewish people, and backslided toward G-D, now G-D has turn His eyes away from Europe, don't your see the "Euro" as a clear sign! in the last years, Jews will find that in the wide world, the only friends they have will be the true bible-believing christians! trust me! Revelation say so!
67. #15, arabs threatening Israel demographic balance!
mary of bethany ,   singapore   (12.19.11)
actually this is a very 'Clear and present danger", yet many are turning blind to it, especially the Leftist-Jews still in their ga-ga-land over "arabs-rights"! noticed this long ago, and these arab young men (and children) are even more radical than their parents. and many are taking on higher education, and occupying jobs opportunites, and yet are still yaking to foreign journalists and tourists on how much they suffer under Israeli government! Israel, save yourself!
68. To: Cameron at No. 64
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.19.11)
Personally, Cameron, I'm inclined to agree with you, except that I believe that the coming years will be a cultural nightmare for all Europeans -- liberal or of another stripe.
69. It seems that my replies have not the favor of Ynet :-(
Yossef   (12.19.11)
so I will not develop anymore and will not try to convince Sarah or Mary of bethany that our future of us Jews, who didn't convert to christianity or islam is in Israel as Jews. But in good relationship with our neighbors. It's not good for the Jews to demonize muslim (nor any other people). Mary, there is an abyss between judaism and christianity. If I had time I should try to explain some of the difference, but there is not. We can leave in mutual respect. I don't ask you to love me, I ask you to respect me for what I am, not for what you hope I will be.
70. Sarah
anton ,   Ist turkey   (12.19.11)
i agree with every words regarding arabs and the way moslems act in europe and in general :) as for changin opinons i think every thing requires deep and thorough considiration politics are the art of deception ones opinion should not follow em rahter see whats behind, for example although many countries change their stance from time to time regarding middle east the agenda is always similar behind the curtains :) anyway thanx for the answer
71. To: Yossef at No. 69
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.19.11)
So, I guess things were not all that wonderful for your family in Algeria, were they? At least not once the French left. And it is not lost upon me that you very carefully avoided answering my question.
72. Europe's secular future
berlonski ,   berlin   (12.19.11)
Focusing only on religions in Europe, Meotti misses the point: the fastest growing group in Europe is not Islam but - Secularism. Mainstream Christians but also young Muslims and Jews turn their backs to religion here. Instead of writing about Brussels, he could also pick Berlin for example: 60 % of the population belong to no religion at all, 28 % are Christians, 8 % Muslims. That's the future of Europe!
73. How can i become an Israeli
gagan ,   India   (12.19.11)
I think the only country free from moslem menace is Israel . Any suggestions how can i become an Israeli citizen .
74. #65
Jonathan ,   MN/US   (12.19.11)
"the men who reduced 6 millions Jews into ashes are NOT true christians. so are NOT the crusaders who slaughtered Jews in Jerusalem from a more distanced history." They identified themselves as christians. they called themselves christians. they were christians. deal. with. it.
75. To Sarah #71
Yossef   (12.19.11)
I made a long answer to your post, but Ynet censored it, maybe coz it was to personal ? The trajectory of my family is not the usual you read in books about Jews leaving Algeria. OK, I'll try another time to explain, but afraid that it will be censored again : my grand father left Algeria in 1925 from Constantine to France, he was a french soldier, just founded a family. He fought for the recognition of both Jews and Arabs dead for France in the first world war. He thought that if we were able to die together on the front, we deserve to live together in peace at home. I don't develop more, I could. I share his mind. I'm an optimist Sarah, I believe that we'll find a way to live with Arabs in peace, in Israel. Things are not black or white, it goes from light gray to dark gray. I'm a mathematician Sarah, a professional, when a theorem I want to prove is false, I have no choice but to accept and state the opposite, even if it hurts. I'm not weak, as I think you think :-) But there is a time for everything, as you know, a time for war and a time for peace. I just want to not forget that.
76. Sharia court in Belgium? Bet Din in France....
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (12.19.11)
What's the problem with that? It only concerns Muslims... There is several Bet Din in France. Is that a problem?
77. #60
nissan   (12.19.11)
if you didnt notice, thye christans are closer cousins. they come from eisav, who was abrother to yakov, while the muslims come from yishmael, who was just a half-uncle
78. @76, Gregg
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (12.19.11)
The difference is that jewish courts don't display the tendency or the ambition to circumvent and replace state laws.
79. #77, Nissan : this is a recent interpretation
Yossef   (12.19.11)
at the the time of Esav there was no christian on the face of the earth :-) Avraham is our father, and you know that Ishmael came to the burial of his father and preceded Itz'hak. dont use the scripture too much. Christianity is a syncretism between greek paganism and judaism. Jesus (invented by Shaul Tarsus) is a half-god, something common in greek mythology but something stranger to judaism and islam, the only two true monotheisms. Be smart Nissan, think.
80. mohamhead & the evil koran
ecks why ,   seattle USA   (12.19.11)
informed rational freedom loving people have all the reasons in the world to fear islam... the twin fogs of political correctness & ignorance must be dispersed before western society better understands this menace. even a brief review of islamic theology & history quickly exposes the deadly roots of this evil ideology. Mohamhead was a 7th century murdering warlord who rose to power on a river of blood surrounded by thugs and gangsters using intimidation, violence, deception and trickery to expand their criminal empire while mercilessly suppressing and killing their opponents and enriching themselves on stolen booty. The evil koran is a collection of sayings and speeches by this diabolical madman claiming divine guidance from some mythical sky-god which has inspired generations of crazed fanatics to abhorrent behavior resulting in historys worst ever crimes against humanity starting 1400 years ago and still continuing even today. Islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses & suppression of freedoms.
81. Islamic Europe
chantalle.ezer ,   Frankfurt Germany   (12.19.11)
The ISlamisation of Europe will slow down very quickly when we cease to pay social benefits. Unfortunatelly the German Consul in Ramallah is supporting this dangerous trend by issuing student visa to anyone who passed the lowest German language exam (GER/A1): just enough to write one's own name in Latin letters. Language schools are a very convenient venue to enter Germany legally. The students pay for two months and disappear. The majority of militant Hamas supporters received that way a visa for Germany. As long as we pave and pay the way into Europe, Islamisation will continue. Ezer
82. peace be up on you
borhan saleem ,   irbid , jordan   (12.19.11)
Islam is the peacefull to the world and should be handled as a legal religion. What bad does it give to the world, nothing at all. truly there is something nice going on.
83. To: Yossef at No. 75
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.19.11)
You are continuing to evade my question, which is, quite simply: are you aware of the fate of the Jews of Constantine when Ben Bela came to power in 1963? I admire your determination, but I question your naivete. How is it possible to live in peace with people who wish to destroy you? Haven't six wars and seven decades of unrelenting Arab terror taught you ANYTHING?
84. #79
nissan   (12.19.11)
yosef, you are right about the fact that eisav was not origionaly cristian, but the arabs were not origionaly muslims either, its just that the arabs turned muslim, and that the roman empire, which was from eisav turned christian
85. Time is not on our side.
Stan ,   Israel   (12.19.11)
I am suprised that nobody realises that Western European countries will all be Anti -Israel within 30 years. ( A large Muslim minority together with large groups of extremists among the Christians in those countries ) will be able to bring about the collapse of the State of Israel. (As happened to White SA) That is why it is essential for the present Israeli Govenment to make every effort to reach an agreement wit the Palestinian Authority on the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. If this is not achieved, I see no future for my children and grandchildren in Israel.
86. SHARIA, ISLAM , EUROPE AND EVERY CONTINENT.
SJOERD RUURD VAN DER ,   MULTIVERSE   (12.19.11)
WHEN/IF SHARIA AND ISLAM OR ANY OTHER ISM ARE FORCED TO/UPON PEOPLE IAM AGAINST THAT. OFCOURSE EVERYBODY HAS THAT RIGHT.
87. @84
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (12.20.11)
The problem is that your statements concerning the origins of Muslims and Christians are statistical impossibillities, and taking demographical and even religious history into account, just ludicrous. I don't doubt your sincerity, but you do need education other than the usual biblicals.
88. 35
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (12.20.11)
Come on Rube the Tube-follow Christ? Why?
89. to Sarah B - 59
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (12.20.11)
Nice to know that you are only 44-wonderful age.I shall be 72 on New Years Day.I remember all of modern Israel's history-it's wars and the start of the incredible lie-the birth of the scum who call themselves "Palestinians" I also know about the "Final Solution" My mother got us out of that situation.
90. #86. SJOERD, wonders never cease!
Harry Wright ,   UK   (12.20.11)
You can actually post something without mentioning your fetish, the UN. You are slipping up on your mission in life to advertise the UN.
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