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No chance for peace
Shoula Romano Horing
Published: 26.03.12, 11:38
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61. internally conflicted and wrong
i ,   jerusalem   (03.26.12)
The author notes the problem of arab mass neurosis/hate, then claims the solution is to target the terrorist and their handlers. The real solution is to eradicate enough of the brainwashed masses untill the brainwashers take notice. Its not nice, and not PC, and most are afraid to contemplate let alone voice what needs to be done.
62. "No chance for peace", comment 38
George Weiss ,   Teaneck, N.J.   (03.26.12)
to Spygy in Seattle Firstly, if you are correct then all Jews in israel had better leave because no matter what Israel does, the presence of Jews will not be accepted. Also, I believe he is wrong concerning the military option.. As I recall, Rome ruled by military superiority for over a thousand years. There are also other examples.
63. no dude no
Oleh ,   Merkaz Israel   (03.26.12)
What I have to live in the middle of no were where there's no jobs, oh maybe thats why I couldn't find a job in Tel Aviv because I was a religeous immigrant. Either way I have come to a conclusion, and that is that you suck
64. To: No. 8
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.26.12)
Oh, shut up. After seven decades of futility and realizing that the ersatz "Palestinians" are simply addicted to violence and terror, we've given up on you. We don't believe a word you say; we don't trust you; we know that all you are interested in is the destruction of the State of Israel. That's not going to happen. What WILL happen is that you will be repatriated to Jordan. We are sick to death of your violence and your terror. You're all out of chances. Too bad for you; hope you find a somewhat decent life elsewhere. Except no one else can stand you, either. Did you notice? Have you forgotten the stunning humiliation at the United Nations this past fall? Ever stop to wonder why you are so reviled? Perhaps you should. It will be an enlightening experience for you primitive and hateful lot.
65. #8 - it's a farce, and here's why
William ,   Israel   (03.26.12)
The 2002 Peace Initiative has a few flaws and Israel was right to demand changes to the document, which Arabs REFUSED to do. Israel did indeed talk to Arab States which is how the Geneva Initiative came about, sponsored by Sari Nusseibeh and Yossi Beilin. 1) By demanding 1967 lines, it creates a very precarious situation regarding security of Israel and would not disincentivize any group from attacking Israel in the future should they decide to refuse the agreement. Do you really think if Syria decides to attack Israel after signing this agreement, Arab States would come to Israel's rescue? Hardly - and we both know that. 2) The document ONLY held Islamic States to the agreement and not non-State entities which include PRC, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hizbullah, Al-Qaeda and others. That means nothing would have changed - terrorists would still attack Israel but Arab States would not, but again, Arabs would not act in Israel's defense under such an attack. 3) The "Palestinians" themselves have rejected this agreement and made even more demands, such as forcing Israel to accept 5 million hostile "Palestinian" refugees. Without the explicit agreement from the "Palestinians", it doesn't matter what other Islamic States agree to. And without Israel, it doesn't matter what the UN decrees or Arabs demand. And Israel has learned too many times that Arab agreements are often worth less than the paper they are on, as was proven by Arafat and the Oslo Accords.
66. #12 - so true - same laundry list applies to Tibetans, other
William ,   Israel   (03.26.12)
and none of those populations feel the need to justify terrorism on a civilian population like slaughtering an entire family in their sleep then celebrating the criminals as national heroes.
67. Most Unique Conflict
Lance ,   Binghamton NY   (03.26.12)
The Arab- Israel conflict is probably the most unique in human history in that a significant portion of the population has no sense of logic or reality regarding it. On a daily basis the most vitriolic hatred of Jews is spewed forth from Arab and Muslim media equating Jews with vermin and insisting that no Jewish state will ever be recognized. In addition every conciliatory move by Israel is met by violence and renewed conflict. Yet this completely ignored by those demanding more concessions from Israel. No amount of compromise will secure the Jewish State. It can only be secured through strength.
68. #1 - we could acknowledge it, but it would be a lie
William ,   Israel   (03.26.12)
Israel, the manifestation of Jewish self-determination, was founded over 40 years prior to the birth of the Irgun, Hagana and Stern gang which themselves were founded as an answer to Arab racist violence and the lack of the British to protect the Jewish population. In contrast, the premise that the "Palestinian" nation was built on is the racist anti-Israel, anti-Jewish ideology that was born from the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood just minutes after WWI ended, which was manifested into terrorism with the goal of ethnically cleansing all Jews from the region, and using a group of economic immigrants as a counter-force by creating the myth of an indigenous population called the "Palestinians". One Arabs acknowledge this, and their role in their demise, peace can be possible.
69. To #8 Samy, the palestinian
marucho ,   Bs. As. Argentina   (03.26.12)
The Saudi initiative which you are referring to was nothing but the admission of the arab right of return, the partition of Jerusalem with the Old City in arab hands, and the 1949 boundaries. And what about jewish interests? Do you think jews are so stupid to accept such a crony proposal?
70. it is evil
(03.26.12)
to mix the causes with the results . the author did it , sure the palastinians do not want israil peace upon their peace .. it is normal and logic
71. Thank you #8 for clearing something up
Bill ,   New York, USA   (03.26.12)
You mentioned that the Arab/Islamic World has 57 states. That is also how many states Obama thought the USA has when he was tired. Now we know what states he was thinking about. That or he looked at a bottle of ketchup.
72. Are you any better?? #1
Ken ,   Canada   (03.26.12)
The Palestinians are no better, probably worse. Israel has done something with their country. What have the pals done? Nothing
73. #37 bertram
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.26.12)
I agree with you that political imagination is needed. Normally I would agree both sides should make this concerted effort. But so far, every effort by Israel is seen by the arabs as weakness. It's their turn, if for no other reason than to show they are willing to compromise and ALSO to show that they are willing to live with a Jewish state in the region. There are limits to the compromises you can expect from one side when the other has shown none, but still wants to kill you.
74. Sammy Your brothers"peace"was a backdoor takeover via
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (03.27.12)
millions of Arabs,victims of Arab apartheid,born in the Arab world,brainwashed in antisemitic and anti Israel hatred being forced into Israel. We may be dhimmis but that does not mean dumb.
75. American Jew Why were the Arabs doing pogroms in 1920?
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (03.27.12)
1830? Why were they shooting Jews praying at the Wall "because it was an insult to Islam"? The "occupation"was it? The Arabist apology industry refuse to think outside their slogans.Arabs are just peace loving innocent victims,who tell their children they want to live in peace,in secure recognised borders,negotiated in return for peace and an end to further demands. Try reading what the Arabs really mean,its all there on MEMRI,not in college leftist rags.
76. Palestinian,Bertram, If Arabs only wanted their own country
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (03.27.12)
they could have had it 63 years ago. On all the WB,all Gaza and all the Jerusalem they(along with their British mercenaries) managed to ethnic cleanse. Arabs who suddenly became "Palestinians" (whose PA covenant calls them Arabs) and their brothers opted for a genocidal war,terror, rejection,apartheid and No Peace No negotiations,No recognition amongst other rejections. PS when do you intend to "liberate" the vast majority of mandate Palestine that the Brits gave the Emirate of Jordan up front? Your real problem is Dar Al Islam
77. #1 Phillistine
Ente Homar ,   NY NY   (03.27.12)
It's amazing how you believe your own propaganda, or to be direct: BULLSHIT. From a secular view: Israel was allotted to the Jews by the Balfour Proclamation and a UN Vote. Irgun, Stern, Hagannah, were established to protect the Jewish population from British Colonial barbarism and local Arab Populations from butchering Jews. From a religious view; Israel belongs to the Jews...always did, always will...It was given to us by Hashem...You are an interloper.....If you want to live in Israel...accept the fact that you are occupier of Jewish Land...and not the opposite. We are here to stay...accept it and live in peace...Or, if you will...become a martyr and inherit 72 Demons!
78. Atta Boy Barry #58
Froike ,   NY NY   (03.27.12)
Well done sir...Kol Hakavod!!!!
79. Peace is Impossible
Dennis ,   NY,NY   (03.27.12)
Given the Palestinian mindset, there can be no peace. That is, untilr they accept Israel's right to exist (forget about the Jewish state stuff.) What have they ever done to advance peace?
80. the arabs through their hatred have
Barney ,   USA   (03.27.12)
ruined their chance of EVER realizing their dreams of a palestine country that never existed to begin with. Israel will only lose through weakness but with help from above will triumph. hate breeds ignorance and ignorance can't win
81. #18 Sarah
Rachel   (03.27.12)
The tragic thing is the Fogels were not asleep when they were murdered. According to court documents,the little boys were held down, and were crying and begging for their lives,when they got stabbed. The parents fought in vain for their lives,only to be stabbed and shot to death. The baby woke up and was crying in her crib when she was knifed to death. If only they had been asleep,the crime would have still been horrific and unbearably heartbreaking,but it might have taken the sting out of the pain and shock just a little. The same thing happened with these recent murders in France, the sicko murderer actually said he got extreme pleasure out of executing poor little Miriam. I agree you can't reason with such violent,hateful ,evil people. No, I am not saying all Arabs have hateful additudes like this, that would be racist. But tragically,I am afraid there's way too many Arabs that do think like this,and you wonder why poll after poll taken over the years shows the Arabs just refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist,and support the murder of Israelis. Their really no different in their beliefs than the Germans who supported the nazis were. Thank God,for the righteous Arabs like Walid Shoebat,and Gabriel Brigette,but sadly I am afraid they are in the minority. I know because I have been to the middleast,and to most of the Arab countries,and with but a few exceptions, especially amongst the Palestinians it was just downright frightening how deep the hatred was for Israelis.
82. Palestinians no 1.
AL QUDS ALYAHUDI   (03.27.12)
Israel was liberated after 2000 years after exile. There will be no chance for peace between Jews & Muslims, because of the Muslims hatred against Jews.
83. Fortunate Israel
Lacy ,   USA   (03.27.12)
Israel is blessed to have both God and righteous leaders to take the battle to its' enemies. If God is for you, who can be against you? If PM Netanyahu leads with God's blessing, who can be against you? Victory is assured. Praise God.
84. IRONICALLY only a BIG ISRAEL, SHALOM can bring TRUE salam.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (03.27.12)
85. 22 ersatz
J Jones ,   UK   (03.27.12)
85 times used today and still counting.
86. #83
Bertram ,   London, UK   (03.27.12)
Who said satire was dead?
87. #85 j - keep counting,
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.28.12)
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