Opinion
Israel isn’t powerless
Hagai Segal
Published: 28.03.12, 00:21
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31. Well -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (03.28.12)
- as to the First part of this article - You err - because Mutual Suicide is no Option, but, as to the Second part of the article, I agree. Arn.Sweden..
32. #26: pathetic, miserable taylor, victim of his own hatred.
rick ,   walnut creek   (03.28.12)
the injection of personal animus, resentment, etc. have no place in the debate. the establishment of a "red line" date depends on many factors, including the support of the US, the state of the intelligence, the willingness of regional powers to cooperate, Israel's own preparations, etc. the fact that such a date has not been decided (if it has not been decided) and published would only surprise a hateful fool.
33. #8 Benassi
Cynthia ,   USA   (03.28.12)
When Israel destroyed the Osirak nuclear plant, all pilots returned safely and there was one fatality on the ground.
34. No!
Yerushalmi ,   Jerusalem   (03.28.12)
I prefer to take the Iranian propaganda narrative about all powerful technological and military superpower Iran and weak and corrupt Israel. So if something blows up in Iran, weak Israel could not do it. How could it if Iran can defeat anyone, even US... It must be that Iranians will bomb themselves to accuse Israel in a false flag operation (all superpowers do it). And besides, Israel is the underdog so it has automatic moral high-ground.
35. OSIRAK IS HISTORY,CYNTHIA....#33
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (03.28.12)
Stop reversing your mind to what happened in Iraq.You are now facing a far too strong country called Iran.Don't mislead the readers.
36. All chiefs
Haim ,   Israel   (03.28.12)
Let's all grow some modesty shall we. No one here, including the author,mis in a position to determine the outcome of a war. Nor do we have an account of Israel nor iran's arsenal nor do we know each one׳s capabilities. Those who talk don't know, and those who know don't talk.
37. to 14
sara ,   jerusalem   (03.28.12)
he is greater than what you post here he did it as science not for jew to attack or to be attacked he had a better mind than most of jewish leaders
38. to 20
sara ,   jerusalem   (03.28.12)
both have nothing to do so they make judgment ,but sarab is profesional in -nothing to do -
39. #36 mahmood
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.28.12)
Remember that the Sunni consider Shia subhuman, only a little better than Jews. Look what Saddam did in the war or what the Saudis did to peaceful protesters in Bahrain. I admire the Persian people and hope there will never be a war between Iran and Israel, but if there is such a war, the Saudis will make sure that the Iranians lose.
40. WHY Iran wants to destroy Israel
Prof B ,   NYC USA   (03.28.12)
To the reader who asked why Iran wants so desperately to destroy Israel, herer is the true reason. Ahmadinajad and some of the clergy, altho they may hate Israel for being a Jewish country, want to attack Israel for the main reason which has less to do with it being Jewish, altho the reason happens to be religious. In Islam, they have a sort of parallel to our messiah called the Mahdi. This Mahdi is not an exact parallel, but for this discussion, that is a good enough definition. According to Islam, the Mahdi won't come until the entire world is engaged in war. Ahmadinajad wants to be known as the 'hero' who made the Mahdi come and figures he can do it while at the same time destroying his hated Israel. He assumes that if he attacks Israel it will start a world conflagration to make the Mahdi appear while also destroying Israel -- 2 birds with one stone. IMO, the man is a crazy religious zealot that needs to be eliminated for the good of all the planet.
41. sara # 38
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (03.28.12)
Sarah B is only trying to educate you but it's obvious it hasn't worked.
42. alexi @4, I personally got off this Olmert bashing wagon.
leo ,   usa   (03.28.12)
Say what you will about him, but Hezbollah is quiet.
43. israel
anup ,   india   (03.28.12)
pls findisrel history dear israel has only six submarine but it has powerful airforce( no 1 in the world with usa and expeienced pilots in the world it has a capability to destroy 28 submarines within an hour dearrrrrr
44. Let's get on with it. Destroy Iran's nukes NOW!
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.28.12)
Israel should deal with Iran's nukes exactly as we dealt with Iraqi and Syrian nukes. No endless debates. No soul searching. We must what must be done. Let's let on with it. Destroy Iran's nukes NOW!
45. iran
Barry ,   detroit USA   (03.28.12)
nuke iranian nuclear facilities now. if iran counter attacks-nuke all of iran.
46. #1 try again
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (03.28.12)
Iran is the one with the problem. They are within our reach, but the opposite is not the case. Iran's military technology is about 50 years behind the times and very short range. Their few missiles that can reach us have an accuracy rating in the hundreds of miles and are far more likely to hit Jordan than us, plus of course we have a ballistic missile defense system - something no other country in the world has. As a military commentator you lack everything. Ever even worn a uniform misinformed?
47. #40 alternative explanation: money
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.28.12)
Saudi Arabia and their satellites sit on massive amounts of oil that they sell and distribute to their friends and allies, living a good life doing no work Iran figures that they can get a piece of that action. If they say that out loud, the US will wipe them out like they did Saddam. Instead, Iranians build nukes while saying that they want to exterminate the Jews so the Islamic world and Leftists are silent. Once they have nukes, an American war on Iran becomes too expensive.
48. #26 clueless
David ,   USA   (03.28.12)
When you feel the Earth quaking and the bright light hit your eye and the skin peeling from your flesh, you will have your date. TaTa
49. war with Iran
J. Stevens ,   Tel Aviv   (03.28.12)
Israel us unable to cope with the hand-made Kassam rockets hitting the South every day, how will it deal with ballistic missiles aimed at Tel Aviv ?
50. Israel is not powerless
H. Epstein ,   Hadera   (03.28.12)
Israel cant deal with the hand made Kassam rockets produced at a cost of 30 Shekel hitting the south every day, How is it going to deal with ballistic missiles raining onto the country from Iran, answer this Mr. Segal
51. It would be a doozy
StevieT ,   USA   (03.28.12)
If you listen to the right wing drum roll calling for military action, get ready for all hell to break loose. Maybe this will signal the start of the big war they need to bring a military solution to the regional problems (or not). Kinda like a Vegas crap table to me....roll the dice, live or die. I don't claim to know the right answer, but I pose a heck of a question. Is it worth it?
52. A BEAR HUG for Mr. Segal !!!
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.28.12)
Iran is a paper tiger...it cannot harm Israel WITHOUT nukes !!! Therefore its nuke installations have to be taken out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
53. to 41
(03.28.12)
sara b does not need my education as she judge that iam idiot not ignorant .. iam sara from jerusalem iam moslem
54. #35 Look at Iran's history, Mahmood
Cynthia ,   USA   (03.28.12)
The last time Iran fought a war was 1980-1988. The outcome was a disaster for Iran. They subcontract terror to proxies Hezbollah and Hamas or attack unarmed civilians. Their dog and pony military parades look primitive. And the Regime is scared to death of tiny Israel.
55. so do it already
alan ,   texas   (03.28.12)
The longer Israel waits to destroy Iran, the more it will cost in lives and money. Do it already and many of the arab loudmouths won't be so loud after that, as well as many of the other anti-Semites. Its time for the world to again fear the power of Israel!
56. To: No. 8
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.29.12)
As it turned out, it was insanity for 100 million Arabs to attack a couple of hundred thousand Jews. Didn't work out all that well for the Arabs, now, did it? It is not the quantity of soldiers in the fight. It is the quality of fight in the soldier and, frankly, Iran's not much to worry about. Remember the Iran-Iraq war? Iran took one million losses and barely eked out a humiliating draw against a vastly inferior Iraq. Israel isn't Iraq. Besides, because of the paranoid nature of Iran's Islamofascist leadership, Iran's standing army is not well equipped or even particularly well-trained (the leadership is afraid, and rightly so, of a military coup). And the vaunted "Revolutionary Guard" isn't all that good, either. Iran is barely capable of fighting a conventional war. Israel may not wish to waste time on conventional warfare. Either way -- Iran's toast. The outcome of any military confrontation between Israel and Iran is not in question. It's all about the manner and method of Israel's victory.
57. Israel' war should be with Britain before Iran.
BUTSeriously ,   Australia   (03.29.12)
The corruption of the Balfour Mandate was and remains the greatest Post-W.W.II crime of all. And no its not past history but very current history: the subsequent conflict is very now, very real and Britain is not taken up for her crimes even while she continues follow-up crimes against the Jewish state. Britain has put her nation and all Christians to shame for inaction.
58. Is Ahmad Really That Insane?
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (03.29.12)
Most pundits predicted years ago, that Iran would become a world power, itself recognizing countries surrounding it were nuclear. The problem is with its minset..viciously anti-West, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic (including Israel) and a degree of paranoia. Its leaders since the Shah are sociopaths, hence the long war with Iraq and the use of outlawed weapons (gas, etc.) Now, its scapegoat are we Jews, referred to as Zionists, though we have never fought them.Iran, iwth oil reserves aplenty, needs enriched uranium, why?It has an army of 10m including home guards, etc. andis allied with surrogates (Hamas, Hez, Islamic Jihad, DFLP, PFLP,etc. But it reads Wikipedia..and is aware of our deterrent..400 nukes..small and large, 900 planes, the best trained army, and thousands of missiles (Jerichos to Popeyes). One Merkava column can take out a city. 1 nuke can take out the city and suburbs. Would they attack Israel (or the US) knowing the above? Everyone is guessing and speculating. And so is this article. BTWIsrael has lithium and cobalt to use against massive troop formations. Even Ahmad, while cracy aint that stupid. Or is he? As Fred Sanford says, "Are you crazy"
59. 40,000 vs 100m Jews/Christians
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (03.29.12)
Iran with Syria, Hamas/Hez havenotattacked Israel, knowing fullwell, Israel's might. Its that simple, Nothing complicated. A former US generals report to Congress a few years ago, noted that in 6 weeks, 30m and 15m Iranian and Syrian casualties in a full fledged duke it out with Israel (1m casualties). Israel has miniaturized nukes..called suitcase bombs, literally. Tehran is history if 1mt is used. Israel can hit known sites and radiate the area for decades and use Jerichos if Iran begins again. These analysis of Iran's come back are premature. I mean, with their oil fields in flames and cities burning..will they focus on wasting more money and effort on rebuilding? The Supreme Leader saysanctions are futile. Lets see, once the central bank is moot. 100m Jews, Christians and infidels are ready to retaliate should they use 40,000 suicide bombers as threatened.
60. Bibi, Mofaz and G-d Vs Ahmad
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (03.29.12)
To Haim: basically you are right, but...read Wikipedia...30m Iranians and 15m Syrian casualties, 1m Israeli (including Arabs) over 6 weeks if both sides explode. Israel has 50 to 200 nukes (some say 500), on missiles, planes, tank shells, Jerichos, suitcase, cruise type missiles..it also has BC warheads, including sarin, small pox, aflotoxins, racine, etc. Israel has excelled in miniature bombs..which can be carried ina suitcase to cities. It now has Patriots, Iron Dome and Davids Sling for extra protection. It has subortical and supra orbial capabilities. that means pin point accuracy AND long range missiles over the horizon. After all, we invented the "bomb", the Iranians are just catching up and Syria is a basket case, as is Lebanon and Egypt. Yes, no one knows for sure. But let THEM sweat not knowing. Ahmads influence is waning, and Mofaz will join with Bibi, thats bad for Iran/Syria.
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