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The truth about 'refugees'
Hanoch Daum
Published: 18.05.12, 14:21
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31. Jarda #2
Vlad   (05.18.12)
There were only a few hundred thousand Arabs before the Jews arrived. Then, when Zionist pioneers began building up the country, they emigrated en masse, especially from Syria. So most "Palestinians" are not native, but immigrants too.
32. # 28
Birdi ,   Israel   (05.18.12)
It does'nt matter where Don was born. Israel is the homeland for every single Jew, worldwide.
33. Poor?
tejas ,   India   (05.18.12)
Jeans, sport shoes, T shirts, beer. Seriously are these people poor?
34. To: No. 2
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.12)
Wow! You really are dense. Jews are the only identifiable group existing today that are indigenous to Palestine. Everyone else are illegal squatters. Especially the ones who come from the Hejaz in the Western Arabian desert and who co-opted the identity of the Jewish people as the true Palestinians in -- oh -- 1964. I'm sorry -- what was that you were saying about "native inhabitants?" The overwhelming majority of Arabs who arrived in Palestine did not do so until comfortably after World War I, by which time the Balfour Declaration and the San Remo Conference were very old news. Besides, one can make the argument that the Slavs should get out of the Czech Republic, because the Celtic tribes were the original inhabitants, subsequently kicked out by the Germanic Marcomanni, and replaced by the Slavs. Get out of the Czech Republic, you illegal interloper!
35. To: Robert at No. 11
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.12)
Actually, Robert, today's so-called "Czechs" come from considerably further to the east. The original inhabitants were Celtic. Then came Germanic tribes. Then came the Roma people -- and only then did the Slavs wander in. The Jews are indigenous to Israel -- that is well-documented both archaeologically, historically, culturally and anthropologically. I suspect that Jarda is a relative latecomer to the country he calls home and thinks of as his own. Archaeological evidence and the written record dating back to the declining days of the Roman empire tell a very different story. Invading Slavic hordes from the east does not make the Czech Republic any more Slavic than invading Arab hordes from the east made Israel an Arab enclave. Jarda either is poorly educated in history, or plain virulently anti-Semitic. Probably both.
36. #28--Born in the USA and proud to
Don Rosenberg ,   Palatine USA   (05.18.12)
support the great country of Israel, even though many people and countries are jealous of and hate Israel. To all of them I say " To to hell".
37. To the writer
Ali Clark ,   Scotland   (05.18.12)
I don't remember any complaints about the one million ex soviets being non jews therefore demographic threat.
38. Means people from US
Jarda ,   Czech Republic   (05.18.12)
will decide fate of people in Palestine? Is there any doubt that Israel is a sick project of opression?
39. #31
Jarda ,   Czech Republic   (05.18.12)
See data of UN. Where were Ben Gurion from?
40. African Refugees
M.Martin ,   NYC/Tel-Aviv   (05.18.12)
Tell me, are there non-African illegals or are all the illegal aliens African. If so, then why only get rid of the African illegals and not all of them? Why should Africans be booted out while Thais, Romanians, etc get to stay? What makes african illegals different from all other illegals (assuming they are not the only illegals)? Just asking.
41. No 2 You are Propalestinian Imbecile
(05.18.12)
You are twiting things. Native inhabitants were very few this was a wilderness before Jews arrived, then because of work suply more than 350.000 arabs flooded the Mandate. And these guys most of them didn't have more than 25 years in the country in 1948 when Arabs Armies try to invade the New State of Israel, and they left by presure of their leaders or voluntarely. Most of Arabas inhabitant new an Old in the mandate of palestinian did not Identify then as palestinians , just arabs soome of them as part of Greatt Syria. The irony of this, is that most of the people Holding Palestinian passports in the Mandat of Paletinians were Jews.
42. To No.39 Jews RETURN home after 2000 years of exile
Ari ,   Jerusalem   (05.18.12)
Irrelevant where they were born phisically. They came to aland that was mostly wilderness, empty land most of it. Arabs emigration came as weel as Jewish for two reasons. 1. Because Jews offered work and second by incitement of the Mufti of Jerusalem to balnce the Mandate of Palestine population. Most of them Identify themselves as jus Arabs the only ones identified with Palestinian Passport were the Jews
43. Most illegals have been expelled not only Africans
Ari-Jerusalem   (05.18.12)
I know for fact that a lor of Romanian have been send packing Home . Get your facts strait Besides most of iloegel europenas are people seeking for work these African have become a social problem and a danger. This is not a racial probelm let's not mix things. At beguning it was thought these were people seeking for asylium but that is not actually the case. They have become hoodlums, rapists etc TYou mish see maybe some iligela Philipono but these are really nice people looking to improve conditions. MMost of them claen house or talke care of elder people. There level of education is by far morre than those afrricans. And to finish Israel is a very small country that cannot become a safeheaven for Africans. Let them go to Arab countries or to Europe, amybe they are more liberals than Israelies.
44. immigrants
spookey ,   birmingham uk   (05.18.12)
you think you have got problems here in the uk we are over run with east europeans vile horrible people the romanians are the worst ,mostly gipsy romana would steal pennies from a blind man
45. Some unacceptable comments
Prince ,   Lagos   (05.18.12)
After reading via the page,I am not too surprise reading some moments of hatred and racism down here.I love israel and israel made me who I am today but Africans are not why you pose it/ or them be,we have a reason of been created a black by the same God who created you so let's leave sentiment apart. I understand the fact that it's a small country and need to coat according to its size. I was flushed out of israel while my two kids are still there.does that make sence .just saying my mind out.
46. #45 "hatred and racism"
Tahl   (05.19.12)
Where exactly? Just because we ask for illegal infiltrators to be moved out of our country, for fear of a demographic time bomb - that makes us "hateful and racist"? No sir, it doesn't. It only makes us fearful for our future. Fear which is becoming increasingly justified with the rising crime rates of these people. We have no problem with their skin color, but rather, with their negative socioeconomic effect on our cities. And if you were staying in Israel illegally, or outstayed your visa - then it's only reasonable that you should be deported back to where you came from. Just like in any other civilized western country. France, Italy, Greece, the USA, Australia, etc would all act the same.
47. Disgraceful
EM ,   Ra'anana   (05.19.12)
At a different time, in a different 'skin', you could have been one of the writers of the "Elders of Zion".
48. violators of Israel
bea ,   usa   (05.18.12)
Do you think 15 old girl is cheering for losy policy?
49. #35 Bigmouth
(05.18.12)
the Czech Republic is not full of Slavs. Czechoslovakia split up some time ago to become Slovakia for the Slavs and Czech Republic for the non Slavs. So you are misinformed once again about basic historical facts.
50. #2 Czechboy you're ignorant.
sk ,   USA   (05.18.12)
Blame the Roman Empire for forcing Jews out of their land and taking Jews to Europe as slaves. Jews never gave up their traditions and multiplied in Europe, waiting for the day when all the conquerors and occupiers of their land would go away. Their historical land was finally freed up with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the sunset of the British Empire. So how the hell can European Jews be "immigrants" into Israel, when they were home away from home? Israel was their historical homeland for 3,000 years. And BTW there was NEVER a nation called Palestine. It was Jewish land all along, waiting for the Jews to return. Another Biblical prophecy fulfilled (that Jews would one day have their nation back). Live and learn.
51. Jarda's misplaced compassion
sk ,   USA   (05.19.12)
Hey Jarda, stop feeling sorry for the Palestinians. They are 100% Arab (almost all Muslim) and the Arabs already have 99.97% of Middle East land and 16% of world oil (Israel has no oil and teeny tiny in size). It's not about land, it's about Islamic intolerance, religious bigotry and hatred for anyone not Islamic, and the Muslim nations just can't tolerate the only democratic non-Jewish nation amongst them. Your compassion is misplaced — try to learn a bit more and open your eyes, then realize that Israel is one teeny tiny nation versus 22 Arab countries, 1 Iranian and I Turk ... 1 tiny country vs. 24 big Islamic bullies ...wake up my boy and study a bit more. And, in your studies also realize that the Jews have been in the Middle East for over 3000 years, and finally, wake up to the fact that there was NEVER EVER a country called "Palestine", NO Palestinian language ...NOTHING Palestinian except made up misinformation for Islamic and political BullCrap.
52. african refugees
joel ,   usa   (05.19.12)
deport them back to their country, they are dangerous to israel, they are terrorists!
53. Bravo Jarda! Well said!
Raine   (05.19.12)
54. the threat is
fetzl ,   Tel Aviv   (05.19.12)
people like the author and the more and more xenophic becoming society. and media which supports these views
55. Because others live peacefully.
tejas ,   India   (05.19.12)
And this is not just Israel. Nearly all European countries has the same condition.
56. to #54
tejas ,   India   (05.19.12)
Take some of these parasites and keep them in your home. Let them rape your family members and not ours. Then you will realize what xenophobia is.
57. It would help a lot if there would be a proper policy
Suzanne   (05.19.12)
That they can ask for asylum and be judged on their stories whether they are refugees fleeing from persecution or refugees seeking a better economic position. But it's not existing in Israel.
58. Ben Gurion
Miriam ,   Miami   (05.19.12)
Jarda Ben Gurion is one person. Israel's present Prime Minister was born in Israel and most of the people in the Knesset (Israel's parliament) are from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. You read UN garbage and Arab propaganda.
59. #49
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (05.19.12)
Hate to break the news to you, bozo, but the Czechs are Slavs, too.
60. Was Gabby Wichman stabbed by a refugee?
Bruno ,   Haifa   (05.19.12)
What a load of specious nonsense. It is also Israelis who are killing, robbing and raping other Israelis, leaving them after hit and run accidents, and killing each other and innocent bystanders in mafia-like underworld feuds. It's too easy to simply unload everything onto the refugees/ migrants. We have more than enough problems of our own making. It's Israelis who cheat, who defraud, who are corrupt, who are careless with human life, who flaunt their wealth around, who drive ludicrously gigantic and wasteful vehicles, who think they can act and drive just as they wish.
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