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Facing the new anti-Semites
Kevin Zdiara
Published: 09.06.12, 14:58
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31. comparing Germans to Israelis.
daniel ,   tel-aviv   (06.10.12)
Having said all that! Why is it that Germans today are a friendly and polite society while we Israelis are rude and aggressive?
32. I wish Israel had a constitution.
daniel ,   tel-aviv   (06.10.12)
33. #9 Real disagreement with you
Mickey ,   Sydney, Australia   (06.10.12)
Being a part of a people or Nation (ism) is the common sentiment or feeling of solidarity which transforms a group into a people or a Nation. and which finds expression in a common conviction that the collective unit, being a people or nation, must be allocated a very high or the highest position in the hierarchy of social values. Thus the awareness of each individual is the determining factor in the sense of nationalism or peoplehood. As such nationalism or peoplehood exists in the awareness of its members. Some of the factors which give rise to this awareness can be all, some or any one of the following: 1. Conflict, wars, fear of invasion etc 2. Mistrust of other groups. 3. Similar ideas, attitudes and opinions. 4. Geographical divides between the group and other groups. 5. national Territory. 6. Language. 7. The same governmental authority. 8. Religion- Similar religious convictions/traditions frequently contribute to a communal feeling in that they distinguish one group from another. It often involves a particular way of life and cultural patterns. A desire to protect that way of life against intrusion, suppression, discrimination, ethnic cleansing etc strengthens the group feeling. 9. Race 10. Common History 11. Indoctrination. The Jewish people have the Jewish religion, as the dominant factor which binds the individuals into a Nation or people. Therefore, for example, anyone converting to Judaism automatically becomes part of the people. This is confirmed in the Bible when Ruth said 'Your people shall be my people, your God will be my God.' Also there has always been a very strong connection to Israel as expressed in age old prayers and tradition. Furthermore, common citizenship does not interfere with the individual belonging to a particular people or indeed more than one people because peope can belong to various sub groups. So American Indians are indeed Americans but they are also Indians. African Americans are indeed American but also African, similarly Jewish Americans are indeed American but also Jewish. It is the same for Italian Americans, Greek Americans etc. Furthermore, there are other states that define themselves by the religion. For example, the Greek constitution defines Greece as being Greek Orthodox, so do the Danes define themselves through religion.In england, the monarch must be a member of the Church of England as the Monarchs are the Heads of the Church.. Pakistan was created from India solely due to its religion ie Muslim. Israel was creates solely for the Jewish people. Israel is part of the Jewish people’s heritage and Jewish Israelis are a subgroup of the Jewish people in that in addition to their Jewish character they have national territory a common governing authority and a national language-Hebrew. The state has quite legally ordained that any other Jew from anywhere has automatic right to migrate to Israe (Zionism). Many states have other groups within their borders. France has a large Muslim population (5 million). It is still a French State. Switzerland has three groups- German, Italian and French. Holland has the Dutch and the Flemish. Israel has one Million Arabs within its borders. In all these countries the minorities have equal rights which does not infringe on the national character or traditions ie religious holidays such as the Sabbath, Passover, Christmas etc.
34. #12 Jay
Moshe of Rockville ,   Rockville,MD USA   (06.10.12)
While technically you are correct that one can be anti-Israel without being anti-semitic, I have yet to find someone who is not anti-semitic who is anti-Israel.Indeed, slightly knowing the history of the Jews from the time of the Roman entry into the area of Judea to modern-day Israel as well as the deeply religious connection of Judaism to Israel, I would offer that antii-semitism is an essential part of the denial of the Jewish State.
35. #15 jassi
Moshe of Rockville ,   Rockville,MD USA   (06.10.12)
Take out "semitism" and replace it with "Indian," replace"a"(next to "jew") with "an," "jew" with "Indian," "moon" by "Pakistan," and "semitism" by "Indian." Sound familiar? I can get a life ,but my 6 million coreligionists can't.
36. #17 DavidR
Moshe of Rockville ,   Rockville,MD USA   (06.10.12)
What you have stated is correct.Judaism is also a nationality, and it is also a civilization.
37. If the Austrian people...
Shlomo ,   BsAs   (06.10.12)
were not bored all the time.. why should they read israeli newspapers? ;-) To all the others: what does AM Israel mean to you? What does goi gadol mean to you?
38. Shameful Anti Semitism.
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (06.10.12)
Anti Semitism, in any other country, is very shameful. But in German, it is worst, because of Nazist Holocaust, that killed 6.000.000 Jews, among 1933 and 1945. Democratic and Christian world's citizenship must struggle against the renewed rubbisch. Israelis, you have many friends. Be strong, but also patients. Your enemies will never prevail.
39. Nonsense in the name of publishing an article
Israeli in Germany   (06.10.12)
Have seen much more anti-semetism towards me and my family in the great beloved Israel than the none I've seen here in Germany. Why don't you write about gay marriage - that's a hot topic these days, and will get your name published just as much.
40. Childish
Helder Vieira ,   Porto, Portugal   (06.10.12)
Lacking other arguments, the author, which probably never thought about what is it like to live under occupation as a sub-human, much less about a return to the 67 borders, seeks the usual solace in the anti-semitism boogeyman. Not finding it, he, like so many others, simply goes after some dellusional 'new anti-semitism' in desperation. Why is it so difficult to understand that Europe simply will not support an apartheid regime forever ?... When will the author grow up ? He should do it fast, as whatever comes out of this madness is also his responsibility.
41. #24
Alex   (06.10.12)
Jews are an ethno-religious group, meaning you can be either/both religiously or ethnically Jewish. Genetic studies backs this up. Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi (except Yemenis) Jews are all closely related and descend from the same people 2500 years ago. Ashkenazim and Sephardim are even very closely related and have had continous connections over the centuries while they split from Mizrahim 2500 years ago. You can google for the studies published by Nature.
42. To: No. 29
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.10.12)
Well, then why hasn't that "large part" of Germany spoken up? Did you learn nothing at all from your recent past?
43. SCREW THEM ALL
ADAM ,   CHICAGO   (06.10.12)
ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE MADE A DEAL WITH OBAMA TO GET TWO MOTHBALLED NUCULAR US SUBS TURNING ISRAEL INTO A WORD CLASS SEA SUPERPOWER AND LET THE WORLD GO SCRATCH THERE ASS .PLAY THERE GAMES AND FEAR DEATH FROM BELOW
44. Peter
Roy ,   USA   (06.10.12)
You are a ignorant, pathetic fool!
45. #5 Being against the Security Barrier is ANTISEMITISM
Sami ,   New York, USA   (06.09.12)
#5 Being against the Security Barrier is ANTISEMITISM because it saves Jewish lives. With people like you we should build more settlements.
46. I buy German plants for my nursery; what should I do?
Steve   (06.10.12)
I own a small nursery here in the states. Germany is one of Europe's preeminent breeders in the horticulture industry. Dummen (USA) has a great breeding program. What should I do? Should I boycott Dummen and other German businesses?
47. #15 Indian nitwit
Sy ,   USA   (06.10.12)
Indians are hated more than Jews. The stench of curry and BO has ruined NYC!
48. nationality theology
definition ethnicity ,   USA   (06.10.12)
Jews can be born JEW through their mother- that makes it an ethnicity. Jews can become Jew through conversion but may never truly be accepted completely in some cases . Many being the father of the children but the mother isne jew so the kids convert yet somewhere Some hardcore jews are thinking they are not COHN enough (royal line jew_) to ever be a rabbi etc. Israel gives special privileges to people that pass the JEW test- such as.. free trips for youth- Bnai Birth- (spelling??) and free welfare etc to assimialte into Israel and instant Israeli passport nationality- if you pass the JEW test. THUS this actually makes ISRAEL a THEOCRACY= a country based on relegion- just like IRAN. The JEW state has more in common with the ARAB states then it wants to admit. BUT THE only drawback for the AMERICANS is all the crap Israel does- because we welfare them militarily and financially the AMERICANS get blamed also- ME NO LIKE THAT- so with all these jews bragging about how great and smart they are- WHY DO YOU NEED USA TAX DOLLARS TO FUNCTIOn
49. 12#: You are only proving how ignorant you
Vardina   (06.10.12)
are about Israel. Why do you think - by the way - that every nobody has the right to tell Israel how to Manage the state? Try to tell a European country how to manage its interior affairs or try to tell any Muslim country not to murder its own citizens nor rape or stone its women. Why don't you do so inorder to distribute your hatred more evenly or is it only Jews you hate?
50. #19: What do you know about Israel's conduct? have
Vardina   (06.10.12)
you ever been in Israel? If the truth interests you I suggest that you visit Israel and see how Israeli Arabs live here. Then talk based on facts not on Muslim terrorists' propaganda or those Christians who are prepared to kiss the ass of Arabs for a galon of cheap gazoline.
51. #5 Does not deserve any comment
VArdina   (06.10.12)
52. #29; If - as you claim - leftists and Arabs are
Vardina   (06.10.12)
antisemites in Germany and - as we know _ radical rithtists are Neo Nazis - how many non antisemites still exists in Germany? Thank God you have a balanced human Prime MInister, God bless her.
53. #12 jay - yes but...
solomon ,   bklyn   (06.10.12)
Yes but the opposite seems to be the norm these days. You will be able to tell if you open your eyes and ears and listen for the telltale "innocuous" inclusion of the word "Jew" in lieu of "Israeli". Wrong doing can be hidden by anti-semitic demonstrators seemingly disagreeing with israel while actually speaking against Jews. Nice try.
54. #19 split
solomon ,   bklyn   (06.10.12)
You are right for once; it has nothing to do with Israel's conduct, which is based on self defense as a result of attacks by arabs. It is based on pure hatred of Jews disguised as Israel bashing, much like all of your posts.
55. Where does the hate come from?
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (06.10.12)
Reading Zdiara's article makes you ask where the hate comes from. Why was Ariel Sharon so hated? Why do Germans think Israel is conducting a war of annhilation? Too many people blame the Germans and some genetic disposition they have to hating the Jews. This is not true. Most Germans are good people who want to support the good guys. The source of hatred is in Israel itself, the extreme Left. If you believe the rantings of self-styled intellectuals Leibovitch, Zimmerman, Sternhel wouldn't you hate Israel? If the corrupt fanatics of Meretz and the Israeli "justice system" use say that Sharon is responsible for Assad's Sabra and Shatilla massacre, what would you think of Jews? If "Professor" Neve Gordon calls for boycott of Israel, do you expect love? If the blood-libels of the foreign-funded NIF and its hostile organs are mistaken for truth, wouldn't you believe the Jews are criminals?
56. How nice @Peter
Illary ,   Lima, Peru   (06.10.12)
How tolerant and nice your commentary! With your way to resolve conflicts, international tourism and migration could be banned altogether.
57. 54 - How stupid do you think we are,...
split ,   US   (06.10.12)
and how much longer do you think we, that is the rest of civilised world is going to buy your self-defence hasbara crap? ,...
58. So much for the NEW GERMANY...
Al   (06.10.12)
once a Jew killer always a Jew killer. They, the vermin of Europe will always revert back to what they are and were. JEW KILLERS.
59. Works both ways
Steve Bronfman ,   Vancouver, Canada   (06.10.12)
Whilst not a great fan of Europeans whom I find generally narrow minded, xenophobic, Eurocentric etc hatred works both ways. While on a Holiday in Thailand I met an Israeli on the beach who preceded to tell me, upon finding out I to was Jewish, how all goyim were animals and stupid and desired to be ripped off. This was the most uncomfortable conversation of my life as we were surrounded by Germans whose conversations all went silent upon hearing this young, professional Israeli's (in Thailand for business) racism. If it had been the otherway eg a German saying this about Jews, probably would have hit him. Point is that (and I'm no Israel bashed) Israelis can bs guilty of the same intolerance as Europeans.
60. #1: you have a reading problem?
an Israeli   (06.10.12)
The article is about the hatred toward Israel and the Israelis. So it seems that even when the Jews leave Europe for Israel, the Europeans still have a problem with them.
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