Interesting that Alexander was brought up. Ironic too, considering that we clebrate Chanukah every year and it happens to be one of the most popular holidays amongst the seculars. Anyone know what the story of Chanukah and it's lessons are about? Clue - the story involves a confict betwwen two polar opposites. On the one side you have the Greeks, their cultur of so called enlightenment and universalism and the Jews who embraced their culture and collaborated with the Greeks. On the other side, you have Jews who stuck to their old fashioned and 'unenlightened' Torah values. Which one truimphed and to what do the jews actually owe their existence too? Hopefully it's not to dancing in a kinky leather suit at a 'pride' parade in Tel Aviv while pretending to sodomize someone. That sort of 'tolerance' and so called enlightenment has not one us any friends in the world.

viva Israel !

What? I am looking to Israel to teach me Torah!

"if any one has a problem with its policy stuff them." But force them to join too.

With this kind of chilul HaShem, the IDF may well lose its next war. And it surely can't afford to do so.

You are a small-minded ignoramus. My fear for children of secular parents is that they might have to serve in the army next to your inbred, cross-eyed small minded ignoramus children. I'd rather have 10 gay children, then one straight small-minded religious one.

Why? Are you ashamed? The question you need to be asking yourself is why does it bother you so much? Are you sorting out a little bit of an sexual orientation identity crisis of your own? Good luck with that.

Sigh. I'm sorry -- do you SERIOUSLY mean to suggest that the relationship between David and Jonathan was merely platonic? I wonder how THEY would have dressed up for a gay pride parade in Israel. We know how King David comported himself at "parties." I'm sure a "kinky leather suit" would have been the least of it. By the way -- your religious upbringing is somewhat faulty. Evidently you are unaware that the issue with the Seleucid Greeks had nothing to do with lifestyle, but rather with one G-d as opposed to a pantheon of gods. And have you ever wondered why the sages chose to keep the Chanukah story out of the Bible? Some suggest that it was because it bespoke revolution, which would not have been a good thing for the Jewish people, then effectively in the Diaspora. Others suggest that it had to do with hatred of lifestyles (probably a euphemism for homosexuality), which our sages did not wish to promote, either. So which are you? A revolutionary or a common garden-variety homophobe?

Some of the people here accuse these soldiers of flaunting their gay lifestyle. They're not having sex in the street, for crying out loud. All they're doing is innocently holding hands...something any straight couple could do without anybody batting an eye.

Gay Tzalmavet it is certainly the Valley of death. Proud to march on?

The picture only shows them holding hands. I certainly hope you do more than that in your bedroom.....

FOR ME?" Please, don t put in my mouth words i did NOT say. [then i won t ask you, to forget them]. Boys of 18 are still influenceable.

so he creates gays too . You did'nt say it . So for you G-d does NOT create men , if he did'nt create them gay ? Boys of 18 are ADULTS , had already some "experiences" , not to influence anymore in this field . Gays are NOT influenced to become so , they are born this way .

Are you also a "bumboy" David?

Seriously,be careful what you ask for,you just might get it.

...the revulsion a straight man experiences at the thought or sight of two men being sexual with one another. The issue is not that men are having sex with men. The issue is that they force-feed it to the public.

It brings me great delight to think of how much this must pain the Israel-worshiping Evangelicals.

How can the IDF of all people condone and encourage such a lifestyle in light of the Holy Scriptures they read such as Leviticus 20:13?!

Good question, and hypocrite comments from Sarah B. You claim to be religious Jew in your comments, you want to kill Arabs and their families, but the IDF made a mistake to glorify gays (I have no problems with them as long as they don't bother me) but you do not even admit this mistake and attack fellow posters. I really don't know who you are, but you are not who you claim to be. How can you live both in USA and in Israel at all? Must be hard to get jobs...and to manage business... keep attacking the normal members, and you make a BAD name for the Jews. Shame on the IDF staff because of this disgusting image.

This is one of the most common accusations I hear of from the "gay pride" crowd. If you are not doing cartwheels or being a cheerleader for gay pride parades or a picture of two male soldiers holding hands, then you must be a "closet" homosexual yourself or struggling with your identity. It's a bunch of BS. To answer your ?, it doesn't bother me that Yossi is in a relationship with Shimon. I just don't think this is DAFKA a reason I NEED to feel proud of the IDF. There are MANY other reasons to feel proud, but this is not one of them IMO. So, sue me!!!!

....Abie Dee, I certainly hope so too. My kids weren't delivered by a bird as far as I know....:-)

Only Messianich Jews can teach you from Torah and help you to find the thruth.

The relationship between David and Yonathan was beyond platonic. It was spiritual - something you cannot phantom. To ask that question suggesting they were gay? Please understand, Israel will not survive when gays flood this country. Don't ask for Sodom and Amorrah. Ask to return toTorah values. This is not one of them. If the IDF goes gay, Israel is gone.

There is no such a in a Torah. Your selmade "G-d" will be defeated in the end of this world and this kind of gayarmy will not win anyone.

Why don't you use that disgusting word to your mother. It would certainly be more appropriate. Asshole.

With gender dilemas,at their birth?