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Europe united against Israel
Eldad Beck
Published: 10.07.12, 11:21
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31. If it was only Europe
esnuffnstl ,   USA   (07.10.12)
that had a problem with Israel, its opinion might be ignored. But it's not. It seems most (almost all) of the world has a problem with Israel's occupation of the Palestinians--including Israel's best ally. A smart nation might ask itself if it is morally right in all of this. And after asking this question, a smart nation might take action to get more in line with the 21st century (instead of making excuses and rationalizations like "other nations do bad things too.") Serbia is an example of a nation that wasn't very smart and that thought it could take land that didn't belong to it and kill or ethnically cleanse the inhabitants of these lands. The overwhelming majority of the world was against Serbia, but Serbia didn't care. It truly believed it was in the right. They believed various lands in the former Yugoslavia were Serbia's ancestoral "homeland" and they argued history was on their side. They had to learn the hard way that they were in the wrong. Apparently Israel will also have to learn the hard way. Or I should say "continue to learn" as Israel will have forever war until it stops the occupation. A smart nation shouldn't have to learn things the hard way.
32. Nonsense
J ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.10.12)
It must be so convenient to just accuse everyone of being an anti-Semite when don't like what you hear. You know what, things aren't perfect in Israel and this nasty status quo over Gaza and the West Bank needs to end after 45 years: either annex and give everyone citizenship or get out.
33. #31. Israel's problems are direct results of retreats.
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
#31. Israel "occupies" Judea and Samaria in the same sense that America "occupies" New York State. Except that Judea and Samaria have belonged to Jews for more than 3,500 years. Far longer than New York State has belonged to America. Israel's worst problems are direct results of Israeli retreat from lands we liberated and should have kept permanently. Not keeping our liberated ancestral heartland of Judea and Samaria.
34. # 12 David, Karmiel, israel.
Bad Ased Jew ,   United States   (07.10.12)
There has always been anti semitism. There will always be anti semitism. What's changed in the equation is possessing the land of Israel. What any Gentile has to say about Jews or Israel seems to me automatically eliminated by their history of killing Jews en mass. The solution? Perhaps israel should be less involved with those who would try and harm her in any way? There are many avenues for staying distant from the fray. As the economy worsened, these same anti semitic heirs of their fathers anti semitic hatred will grow into a chorus as they themselves are sinking lower and louder as their enemy within their gates slit their throats and claim Britain and her meager 'territories' as their own. Let's hope that europe becomes the new palestine. 'Clandestine' becomes Eurostine.....
35. # 31 another typical anti semitic idiot.
Bad Ased Jew ,   United States   (07.10.12)
How many arabs have been slaughtered in Africa? In the arab spring nations? And only Israel bothers you??? good grief turd ball, you should really catch up on the news instead of trying to 'create' some. israel will continue to kick her enemies ass and her enemies will still offer up their own kids as warriors while the men run and hide under their women skirts. Smart, aint you, pal.
36. # 30 Chris, if I may...
Bad Ased Jew ,   United States   (07.10.12)
The European's learned anti semitism from their arab oil rich dummies. ( before the discovery of oil, ) there were the Egyptians, philistines, the Assyrians, etc. Now, the arabs and Europeans wrap around one another until one is dead, like snakes.
37. #22
Sarah B (No not her)   (07.10.12)
Ignoring the fact that the United Kingdom is now Israel's largest trading partner after the United states I believe that our contry's over reliance of trading with Europe is Israel's achilles heel, and we need to reduce ties with the EU to the bare minimum. Particularly if as seems likely Turkey joins, much more likely as the EU will need an economy like Turkey's to haul them out of recession
38. Shame on Haifa U
Daniel ,   IL - Ta   (07.10.12)
Again Israel's left shows that they are the antisemites best tool to work for the destruction of jews. I am appalled at the hypocrisy and hatred of the left towards jews.... Neither this overpaid clerck nor any other eu offical did ever naything to even think of fighting antisetism and only fund hatred!
39. The EU
Martin Gray ,   United States   (07.10.12)
Europe is toothless; the EU is an absurdity even among its own members who can barely keep this unelected bureaucratic monstrosity together. Putin is correct when he states The West is in decline. Israel - seek allies elsewhere and stop your obsession with EU opinion. The P5 + 1 negotiations with Iran are an example of just how ridiculous and ineffective Europe has become.
40. #25
Sergey ,   Moscow, Russia   (07.10.12)
Clearly it is written by a Jew ha? This is an Israeli newpaper" dumb ass"
41. Support
Neil ,   Leeds England   (07.10.12)
I always buy Israeli food to help. I am a non jew but do my best to help Israel as I appreciate the struggle you have. I am sure a lot of people feel the same. Unfortunately the left are very vocal and organised here. I think all decent people here do support you.
42. #13 made the MOST sense on these talkbacks
Bonnie ,   tel aviv   (07.10.12)
seriously, why is YNET so obsessed with who hates us? Where else in the world is front page news based around who hates us today. It is really embarrasing
43. #33
Harold ,   USA   (07.10.12)
When Israel was created for the Jews by the United Nations why Judea and Samaria were not included. The world recognized Israel with its 1948 borders without the Palestinian lands.
44. Europe united against Israel
Floriane ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
I don't believe we need Europeans. No matter what we do. They are for Palestinians! They want us to give away our land away with nothing in return. They have nothing to do better than squabbling with us. Should we all Israelis UNITE we could attack Iran, Win and show how strong Should we altogether as One People we would not any approval from Europe. BUT heavens forbid that we show respect to each other and AGREE on anything! When are Jews going to understand that simple principle of Unity! If Chinese are doing well it is because they work together -not just because they havé cheap labour that they successful- take the example of the Russian community same thing United g
45. #35
Harold ,   USA   (07.10.12)
Anti Semitic is a broken record and it is used whenever anyone speaks and expresses the truth. Will you please stop using this unwated expression.
46. I wish to see Europe "destroyed" one day
k ,   US   (07.10.12)
hate those losers, I will never forgive them for what they have done in the past, hate them with everything, Jews need to get out of Europe and realize Europeans will always be the #1 enemy
47. #43. Harold: teach us about Hawaii
Tom W ,   USA   (07.10.12)
It did happen in our modern era when the USA simply forcefully occupied the independent kingdom of Hawaii, imprisoned its internationally recognized queen Liliuokalani and gobbled up the islands as "State". The strong writes the laws. Larger nation can swallow up smaller ones unopposed; - Jews are regarded as minority "ghetto dwellers", too small and unfit to have their own country. They are permitted to rule Brooklyn only according to your types. Kurds, Tibetans, Basques etc. are also in the same "category". So your pious pontifications holds no water beyond the usual PR crap.
48. #46. k: chill out!
Tom W ,   USA   (07.10.12)
We have still pro-Israeli friends among Europeans, rabid Israel haters among Americans and vile self-haters among Jews. Things are more complicated than you think.
49. Israelis have friends in Europe too
jgets ,   Thessaloniki Greece   (07.10.12)
Idiot Brussels bureaucrats aside, Greece/Cyprus/Israel are cooperating nicely to further enhance their economic and military ties and Germany has supplied Israel with submarines for Her second strike option. It's not all black. It could be better of course. "Patience is a virtue"
50. Not new
Yael Schlichting ,   Qiryat Motzkin   (07.10.12)
We always should be clear about the fact, that Europeans in general and Germans in special never really addressed their problems with xenophobia in general and anti-semitism in special. They haven't changed and now the shock over their crimes during the dark nazi-time has vanished, so that we can see their real faces. The crimes of the past were so ugly, that the perpetrators see no other way but lie about them. Just like in Israel we have "Centers for the psychological support of survivors of the holocaust and the second generation" in Europe we would have needed Centers for the psychological support of the perpetrators and the second generation. This never happened and I (grown up in Bavaria) remember quite good how elder people always continuously ranted about Jews. Always the same things. It's just as they had received it with their mothers milk and the younger just say, that it's enough and they don't wanna hear about it any more. This is Germany/Europe 2012 and we should be on alert, because in Europe anti-semitism and xenophobia are on the rise!
51. at 46
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (07.10.12)
I will decide for myself if or when to get out of Europe. Get a grip, you sound like a two-year old. '...hate them with everything'. And what's that, pray tell? What kind of mentally stable adult would post something like you just did. Europe needs to be told to turn it's attentions to countries like Syria and Saud-Arabia, and stop appeasing countries no sane, enlightened democracy would want to appease, preferably along with the removal from (unelected) Ashton from office. But if you look at the world today, and Israel's place in that world, and still manage to conclude that Europe is enemy no. 1, you are in need a psychiatrical evaluation. You are in no position to tell me, or any other European Jew what to do. We are quite capable in handling our affairs. And please don't go into the 'that's what the Jews thought in the late 30's as well'-mode. I heard it already.
52. #45 Harold USA
Laurie ,   Beit Shemesh, Israel   (07.10.12)
? "Will you please stop using this unwated expression. " We will stop the phrase "Anti Semitic" when the Anti-Jew/Anti-Israel Rhetoric STOPS!
53. European Hate of Israel
Gesher ,   London   (07.10.12)
Follow the history of Israel...Whenever religious Jewry have been targeted by the Hilonim in Israel,Israel suffers from the Goyim!!!
54. Europe...
Haselbach ,   Germany   (07.10.12)
who/what is Europe.... ...not me.
55. Sound familiar?
Ken ,   Monsey, NY   (07.10.12)
Let's try a country where a few billionaires control all the money, where ordinary people can't buy a house or make a decent living, where existential threats abound from all its neighboring countries, BUT the greatest problem is that the Haredim don't serve in the army. Sound familiar? Anti-semitism and scape-goating comes in many costumes.
56. Do you know the fable
Jarda ,   Czech Republic   (07.10.12)
The Shepherd Boy and the Wolf?
57. To nr 37 - We don't disagree
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.10.12)
And I haven't left out anything. As far as I know it is correct that UK is unfortunately Israel's 2nd largest trading partner after the USA. And yes I agree with you that trade with the EU must be kept at the absolute minimum in terms of percentage of Israel's annual exports and annual imports. And to further avoid misunderstanding: decreasing or limiting trade with the EU does not necessarily have to be detrimental to Israel's economy. Israel can replace the Europeans with other business partners. Alternatively, Israel can keep the same volume of trade with the EU on an annual basis but increase trade with the rest of the world so that trade with the EU shrinks to 20%, 15%, 12% or maybe even 10% or below 10%.
58. Europe united against Israel
samir muallim ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
Hypocrats and cowards will never say what ought to be said or codemn what ought to be condemned. They caused maximumal damages to the jewish people along far & near history!
59. Grateful for a break in the usual sniveling about the US
Cameron ,   USA   (07.10.12)
Yes, carp about the Europeans a bit before you turn in our direction again. Thank you for the respite, YNET.
60. #59. Cameron: It's still too early
Tom W ,   USA   (07.10.12)
Wait till people wake up and read HuffPost-N.Y.Times daily anti-Israeli conniptions and sermons while genuflecting to Obamao's who is their "Great Leader". A Leftist deity.
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