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Rabbi Yosef: Secular education corrupts kids
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 21.08.12, 07:33
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91. 89 Michael Sounds like Darwin.s
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.23.12)
evolution theory .has driven you bananas.
92. 90 Try 2,thanks for the information
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.23.12)
93. Ora , 92 . It was NOT meant as an info
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.25.12)
But as a CORRECTION of you very WRONG argument . If you give an argument , do it with a TRUE one please This michael is the same kind of anti Jewish as this haim. Both not much better than sprotje and snake , they too hate us . Have a fine week
94. 93 Charles Ahad Haam was first..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.25.12)
at the Yeshiva,and had later science studies.He had both Tora and Science.That s exactly what i am promoting. I think Michael was rejected by the family and friends of a religious girl that he loved because he did not want to enter in religion.That is the reason that he hates religion.He was not very smart.The religious women are the most devoted to their husband and family and most loving wives and best cooks in the world. I t is worth to become religious only to be able to marry a religious girl .
95. Ora , WRONG TRY # 2
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.26.12)
His father send him to a cheder till age 12 . [ Wiki ] "Although raised in a hasidic family, Ahad Ha’am was soon exposed to secular studies" [ Jewish virtual Library ] Soon :=very young , not at a yeshiva yet . But he lost the most important base for science during those cheder years . Jewish children need to know something about the History of our people , nothing about the tora . Regarding michael , don't think , you are fantasying . Some "people" don't need a reason to hate Jews .
96. 95 Charles From 4years till 12 years
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.26.12)
is 8 years studying Tora.Not to underestimate. I believe that everything has a reason,but we don t know always what is the reason. Michael wrote that he had a religious girl friend.The rest i confess i invented.
97. 95 TRY2 Charles "nothing about...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.26.12)
the Tora." Theodore Roosevelt is seemingly not of the same opinion. "A thorough knowledge of the bible is worth more than a college education"
98. Ora , why not ovadia yossef as an example ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.26.12)
Theodore Roosevelt was a religious man , affiliated to a church . So no wonder that he said this . Bring BETTER and SERIOUS arguments !!! From 4 to 12 : 8 LOST years to learn stupidities . But he was SMART and left religion . Never seen that what you wrote about this michael , again the same thing as the "conversion" of Henry" you also invented . Be serious please .
99. Ora , back up your statements in # 85
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.27.12)
regarding doctor's mistakes . Also your invention maybe ?
100. 98 Charles ONLY when i say "i think"...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.27.12)
then it are not facts. I can accept that you don t believe me.Though it hurts,since telling the truth is one of my essential principles. But,I DO NOT ACCEPT that you say that Tora study is,G-D forbid stupid. Please,don t send me anymore hateful anti religious comments. You make it most difficult for me to keep you in mind as a fine secular guy.
101. Ora , you know me
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.27.12)
You gave a citation by Roosevelt . This was not "i think" , he has probably said it . But giving him as an example of a great man supporting bible study is wrong as he was a believer himself . I don't think that you're a liar , but your imagination runs , and you have a bad memory [ not your fault ] so sometimes you UNKNOWINGLY or UNVOLUTARELY tells thing that are not 100 % true . The "history" part of the tora must be teached . For the rest , knowing [ as you DO and practise ] "ve'ahavta et re'echa kamocha" Is more than enough . The rest are comments , dixit the Rambam . I don't think that commentaries are utile , maths and English are . Don't forget your " I agree 100 % " or your "exellent post" as reaction to some of my writings
102. Ora , when will you back your statements in 85 ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.27.12)
103. 101 Charles,What?I tell bubemeisses?
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.27.12)
104. 102 Charles,sorry i can t...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.27.12)
If you still want back ups, get a cat. That s what they do when they are angry.
105. Ora , so your statement in 85 was NOT TRUE
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.28.12)
Or "uit je duim gezogen" , This is not the first time you tell such untrue things . Don't cry if i tell you then that you INVENT stories . Henry's conversion , michael'\s girlfriend [ you admitted that was partly invented , i will say 100 % invented ]
106. 105 charles
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.28.12)
Now you showed your real face ...... a great disappointment.
107. Rabbi Ovadia Yoseph is 100% right!!!
Vladimir ,   Yerushalayim   (08.30.12)
108. secular education
john ,   toronto   (09.01.12)
There is no problem with secular education. It is important that students should know subjects in this age, it is important only how knowledge is used one can use it it the good way or against good.
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