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Rabbi Yosef: Secular education corrupts kids
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 21.08.12, 07:33
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61. Ovadia Yosef :to # 58
Yosef Y. MSc' ,   USA   (08.21.12)
Yishar Koach, letzter ( which means the last one in Yiddish). I have come from communist youth to true Jewish values in one lifetime (!) Rav Yosef's words, distorted by the leftist media and supported by a horde of "half baked" Israeli and other Jews, nevertheless remain holy and true, even in 21st century context.
62. To #11
Joshua ,   USA   (08.21.12)
Whether Ovadia slammed secular education or "Just" parents who send their children to secular schools is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that he is a Moron, and those who follow him are Idiots!
63. Ora , 53 , as always : a stupid comparison
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.21.12)
64. 60 Yoni,i have known doctors...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.21.12)
who were responsible of their patients death.So what?Is that a reason i should not have confidence in any doctors?
65. yosef
dt ,   england   (08.21.12)
what abject rubbish a total chillel hashem
66. 64 Ora, Chabad Mafia
Yoni ,   Jerusalem   (08.21.12)
you are talking about some doctors, I'm talking about some "Rabbis", as opposed to ALL, so we agree on that. Check out chabad-mafia dot com, I think you are going to love it.
67. The testimony of women
Jay Abouaf ,   Jaffa, Israel   (08.21.12)
He doesn't believe the testimony of women is worthy. He refers to women as 'whores'. His interpretation of the Torah is perverted. The people who follow this man are sick.
68. 64 , if responsible they were punished
Charles ,   Petach Tikiva   (08.21.12)
corrupt rabbanim not , they will find a way to explain their deeds with their tora laws . This yossef is the best example of how they all act .
69. 68 If you wanted to hurt me...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.21.12)
you succeeded. GREAT ! And If you go on like that ,i intend to ignore your posts.
70. Ovadia Yusuf is the devil himself
Haim ,   TA   (08.22.12)
The man is more evil than the devil
71. Ora , 69 . I only react on your TB's
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.22.12)
And i say it when something is stupid . Have i to stay silent when you insult me ? I answer in the same way . You're kind , i'm kind . You're not , i'm not .
72. # 71
Android ,   Tel-Aviv, Israel   (08.22.12)
Ora is a programmed Zombi robot without any ability think, not a human being.
73. Charles, OK Let s begin all over again
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.22.12)
I am kind ,you are kind. So far so good.
74. 73 , Ora
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.22.12)
That's the way i like and prefer it .
75. 72 , and what were you programmed ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.22.12)
She at least applies "ve'ahavta et Re'echa Kamocha" something you probably never heard about .
76. For the record.
Ram ,   London   (08.22.12)
Rav Ovadia Yoseph can put all you talkbackers, who insult him, in his little pocket. Your ignorance, shallowness and lack of respect, aided and abetted by the left wing media, is an insult when compared to his knowledge and intelligence. You don't have to be religious to respect the fact that Jewish religion teaches all that is positive in the human race. Try to respect your background and refrain from exposing your shallowness with such confidence!
77. 72 Android,and you are a product...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.22.12)
of Android app.development for dummies.
78. 75 Thanks Charles.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.22.12)
79. What does the rabbi mean?
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot   (08.22.12)
Is the corruption caused by secular education is teaching the children skills so they can earn a living? There are many observant Jews who have been given a secular education alongside a good grounding in Judaism. Mamomodies was an observant Jew who earned a living as a medical doctor and was opposed to making learning Torah an exclusive occupation. The curriculum in religious schools must be expanded to include basic secular learning. In the Yeshiva I went to in Brooklyn N.Y. we studied religious subjects in the morning and regular school subjects in the afternoon. WE were taught to be observant and were made ready to learn a way to make a living.
80. to 47
sara ,   jerusalem   (08.22.12)
it is the same --if seculars see the religoude is dangerouse to secular studies as this rabi see secular study is dangerouse to religoude ... i think study must be the science the langusges the math, and also the religion as faith and lifestyle it must be schooles to all people benifits only to know without critics to any one funds the same rights the same
81. Without secular education Israel would perish.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.22.12)
History has shown with great clarity that Jewish religion and laws lead to infighting and collapse of everything. This includes physical survival since religious Jews have been the most exterminated people in the history of major religions. Detractors will point out that a "Jew" always survived somehow, but that's a desperate arggument of losers. The modern state of Israel was established through secular efforts and secular education is its natural outgrow. Take away secular education and there will be no state of Israel -- it's that simple. Secular in Israel should tell it to the dummy speaker in irrevocable terms. Rotten tomatoes would serve the purpose.
82. 81Please back up your statements.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.22.12)
83. let's get this straight
itzik b. ,   jerusalem, israel   (08.22.12)
If we are all orthodox, then everything will be ok. if we don't study anything secular, but just torah, we'll be ok. if no one works, but we all learn in yeshiva, we'll be ok. maybe the women can work, as well as doing the cooking, cleaning etc. for families of 12 if we don't have an army, but just pray all day, then no one will harm us ?
84. The Rabbi is very correct. Secular "education"
TzVi ,   NY   (08.23.12)
Is corrupt and based on non-Jewish values. It is modern day Hellinism and "Jewish" self-hatred.
85. 68 Charles,Very often chief doctor s...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.23.12)
fatal mistakes are not revealed and not punished
86. Ora , 85 . Back up your statement [ copieur ! ]
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.23.12)
Here in Israel , as in the USA , lawyers are specialising in such "mistakes" , they have publicity on radio . So people won't let it go . A family doctor i know was sued because failed to see a very rare heart disease . Had no problems Secular Israelis are those who mostly fought and build this country . Have you seen many religious as top industrialists ? It are mostly seculars , they did'nt receive a Yeshiva "education" , but went to universities . The Israeli Nobel prize winners came out of University , even the religious Prof. Aumann , Nobel Economy . You know very well that the charidim opposed the creation of our country
87. 86 Charles,Ahad Haam and many...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.23.12)
pioneers were Yeshiva students who became secular.Many pioneers were orthodox people. Some Rabbis but way not all opposed the creation of our country.Did Rav Cook oppose ?Who created Petah Tikva and many other cities? Are we going to fight about which society is more important to Israel? Israel needs both for different reasons.They complete each other. I have seen many religious in high tech,because they have brains. What do you mean with [copieur !] ?
88. Ora , copieur ? read the title of your # 82
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.23.12)
And compare it to my # 86 . Did'nt you see it ? You did'nt answer my question regarding doctors . Those who left religion were SMART people who saw that there is nothing to believe in . Those who created my town were religious , yes . But those who developped her to a modern town ? Most Great ones of Israel were secular . Rabin , Dayan , Ben Gurion , The president and the general Weizmann , Herzl . There are of course kippa wearing people in Hi tec , who are doctors , etc . But not many , if any , of the Great ones . A fight ? The same as if i , a Ferrari , would race against a 2cv . Not a fair fight .
89. #82 ORA, Am backing it up for you.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.23.12)
Rotten tomatoes splash on a person's face and make him/her think again what is being offensively said because otherwise the rotten tomato would not have been thrown. Catchup splashed on the rabbi's clothes would accomplish a similar effect but the thrower would need to get close to the rabbi, which would not be a pleasant experience to the bottle holder. If not in season and rotten tomatoes not easily available, think of throwing rotten eggs. If you have further questions, do not hesitate to ask.
90. Ora , Achad Ha'am
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.23.12)
Although raised in a hasidic family, Ahad Ha’am was soon exposed to secular studies. The impact of modern philosophy and the sciences led him to abandon his religious faith and observance. [ Jewish virtual library ]
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